Sex education

[Meadow1203]

I was chatting to my son yesterday and he told me that he will not be letting my Grand son back to school in September. I asked why and he said that they were giving Sex education to children aged 6 + which he said was innapproriate, I thought it was the parents choice at junior school to determine whether they want them to be included in these lessons but I am probably totally? From what he tells me it does sound quite graphic. Would be interested in MN's thoughts on this.

They don't teach the mechanics to six year olds. They teach them about the pants rule and families. It's actually sex and relationship education, with the emphasis on relationships in KS1.

I assume your son will be homeschooling your gs then?

titchy i have just read the government web site re this and said as of Sept 2020 and states that "relationship" lessons but it is down to the individual school to include sex.

At that age basically all they get taught are boys and girls bodies are different, that they change as they grow, the "proper" names for their body parts and about inappropriate touching. They are not teaching them sex positions .

Why would your son not want his child to know what his body parts are called? Vagina and penis are not dirty words they are exactly the same as nose and leg, simply anatomical names.

Children need to know that it is OK to shout "no" if someone tries to touch them. Education helps stop child abuse, we should be encouraging it.

ach you are making assumptions, there is nothing wrong with what you have stated. I would have thought all parents would teach their child this. We are talking about masturbation, gay sex, to mention a couple, I think this is too much for a 6 year old if it is true

Would be interested in MN's thoughts on this.

Why? The bigger, more pressing issue is your son being so idiotic as to consider removing his child from school

Do you have a link or extract from the schools SRE curriculum which shows that those things will be taught to your nephew?

I teach this age and they are NOT on our SRE curriculum for KS1 at all. No mention of them.

I would have thought all parents would teach their child this.

Unfortunately not in many cases.

Before my son received sex education in primary school, parents were invited to view the videos to be used so we could exactly know what it contained. Perhaps your son could ask to see it first so that he actually knows what it contains before assuming the worst - IME it was all quite tame.

What exactly have the school said they are covering? They will acknowledge same-sex relationships and parents, among discussions about relationships and families in general. I would be astonished if they talk about anal

This is England's SRE curriculum: www.gov.uk/government/publications/relationships-education-relationships-and-sex-education-rse-and-health-education

Parent guide: www.gov.uk/government/publications/relationships-sex-and-health-education-guides-for-schools

FAQ: www.gov.uk/government/news/relationships-education-relationships-and-sex-education-rse-and-health-education-faqs

The focus in primary is:

The focus in primary school should be on teaching the fundamental building blocks and characteristics of positive relationships, with particular reference to friendships, family relationships, and relationships with other children and with adults.

This starts with pupils being taught about

• what a relationship is,
• what friendship is,
• what family means and
• who the people are who can support them.

From the beginning of primary school, building on early education, pupils should be taught

• how to take turns,
• how to treat each other with kindness, consideration and respect,
• the importance of honesty and truthfulness, permission seeking and giving, and
• the concept of personal privacy.

Establishing personal space and boundaries, showing respect and understanding the differences between appropriate and inappropriate or unsafe physical, and other, contact – these are the forerunners of teaching about consent, which takes place at secondary.

Families can include for example, single parent families, LGBT parents, families headed by grandparents, adoptive parents, foster parents/carers amongst other structures

Also:

65. The Relationships Education, RSE, and Health Education (England) Regulations 2019 have made Relationships Education compulsory in all primary schools. Sex education is not compulsory in primary schools and the content set out in this guidance therefore focuses on Relationships Education.

66. The content set out in this guidance covers everything that primary schools should teach about relationships and health, including puberty.

The national curriculum for science also includes subject content in related areas, such as the main external body parts, the human body as it grows from birth to old age (including puberty) and reproduction in some plants and animals. It will be for primary schools to determine whether they need to cover any additional content on sex education to meet the needs of their pupils.

Many primary schools already choose to teach some aspects of sex education and will continue to do so, although it is not a requirement.

When my son was 6 he informed me about some playground chatter and talked of "making sexy". Upon asking him if he knew what happened during sex, he perfectly described what was in fact a tit wank . After a moment's thought, I decided it was opportunity to put him straight on the matter. You do them a disservice to shield them too much as they end up with misinformation from elsewhere. When he was 9 I ended up explaing how a man could possibly rape another man as I had the lunchtime news on and he happened to walk in the room when a report had just come on about it. So you never know when in everyday life when things could need communication on. Luckily, as a nurse, I don't shy away from these situations.

aragog thank you most helpful. That is what I read and think that is very balanced and healthy. I am urging me son to go and talk to the school about concerns.

I think this is too much for a 6 year old if it is true

It isn't true. Obviously. Your son sounds like an obnoxious dick I'm afraid. What does the child's mother think?

So is he planning to deregister him and home educate him?

I'd be curious to see the paperwork where they state they're teaching 6 years old masterbation and gay sex as opposed to something around it being ok to touch your own body boot no one else should, and people can have relationships with men or women regardless of their sex

I think your son has probably been reading too much of the Daily Mail type sources. I remember outrage when it was initially published by certain members of society who hadn't actually read any of the content.

I have taught Growing and Changing lessons to KS1 students and it was solely about puberty, biological changes and healthy relationships. Nothing in masturbation or anal sex.

I’m an ex secondary psche teacher and I’ve read through the guidelines. There is no way they will be teaching gay sex they will say all families are different some children will live have a mummy and daddy, some with juat mummy or a day, some with two mummies or two daddies and some with grandparents. They may read a book which happens to have gay or lesbian parents. They vast majority of SRE in primary is how to be a good friend and wash your hands after you go to the toilet.

Can you look at the school website and see if they name of the system they use is.

There has been alot going on with schools and sex education and much of the proposed stuff is unsuitable. 13 year olds discussing shoving stuff up the arse etc

You are right to be concerned I don't think parents are really aware of what's potentially being taught and whos behind it.

So look at the website and go from there

@Meadow1203 - hopefully you are now reassured. There has been some appalling and hysterical misinformation spread about what is being taught in schools in the PSHE curriculum. It's desperately irresponsible and it's really important that your son does not jump on that bandwagon.

Schools exercise very sensitive and careful judgment around these matters and I have never seen anything to be concerned about in what is being taught. They impart appropriate knowledge in an age appropriate way. In any case, parents are always given the option to withdraw their children from those lessons if they wish to do so.

I thought they were scrapping the right to withdraw your child from September this year?

There have been some things reported on the news that would alarm most People . The 11 year old girl given homework fo define hard core porn fir starters.

And learning packs containing links to inappropriate reading material and games.

Its not a bad thing that parents/grand parents wish to be sure about what is being taught

I thought they were scrapping the right to withdraw your child from September this year?

Parents can withdraw their child from sex education, but not relationships education.

However, the right to withdraw them from sex education stops at 16y (or the terms before) iirr.

Blimey, I can’t honestly think why anyone would assume that a school will teach 6 year olds about gay sex and masturbation!

Mind you, it would be helpful if this vague shitshow of a government actually produced a proper NATIONAL curriculum at last for subjects other than English and maths.

Your son sounds like he may be one sandwich short...

I hope he enjoys fulltime home schooling and working a fulltime job to pay the bills.

ugly

Perhaps its because previously parents managed to get Warwickshire County Council to pull its respect yourself campaign which intended to teach secondary age children about things like daisy chaining and bukkake .

Its highly concerning really and parents just want to be sure

Roswellconspiracy there is a difference between making young people aware of sexual practices that may be unpleasant and exploitative, which will equip young people with the ability to protect themselves and say no, and going around saying: 'Bukkake! Yeah, that's a thing you should do, could be fun, go try it'. The latter would not be part of secondary age sex education. Honestly, the Mail has much to answer for.