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Childcare after separation

31 replies

Dave9633 · 22/08/2020 07:42

Hi guys, I need some advice...
My girlfriend and I have been together 2 years. We’ve been living together for 6 months. She has two children aged 10 and 12 From a previous relationship that ended 3 years ago.
All is well with everything apart from the involvement with the children’s Dad.
He has the children at his house every weekend. A set up that seems to work well for everyone. Particularly the children and that’s the main thing for us.

Communication is very poor regarding picking
Them up and bringing them
Back. He just turns up most times whenever it suits him without any consideration.
Every week My partner will contact him on Thursday to ask him whether he’s picking up children Friday night or Saturday morning (we don’t mind either we just want to know his plans so we Can plan our time ) sometimes it’s Friday night and sometimes early Saturday morning we never know unless we ask him.
Every week is predictable before we’ve even reached out to him.. he will not answer his phone or he will read and ignore messages or will reply and say he doesn’t know.
Last night we had the opportunity to go out with friends if the children weren’t at home. So Thursday evening my GF messaged him and asked him was he collecting Friday night or Saturday?
He read the message and didn’t reply.
Two hours later she sent a question mark and he replied and said he didn’t know but would let
Her Know tomorrow. She replied and said could he please let her Know early as if the children aren’t at home we have plans to go out.
He Never contacted her all day. We didn’t pursue our plans as we assumed children would be home. 7pm he calls the eldest child directly
And says get mum to ring me about picking you up tonight or tomorrow. Child passed message on straightaway. She didn’t get the chance to call
Him (we were having dinner) and 20 minutes later he just pulled up outside the house.
We have asked him to communicate
Better and earlier in the week but he says he can’t because of his job.
He returns the children on a Sunday anytime between 4-8pm. We’ve asked
Him to message and say what time he plans to return them. We don’t mind what time
They come Home but would like to know a rough time so we Can make sure we are in and sorted.
He doesn’t. He just pulls up outside with them whenever suits him not knowing or caring it seems
if we are In or not.
The children spend the whole time asking their mum the same questions, is dad
Coming for us today? Are we going to dads today or tomorrow? What time will dad be here? All we
Can say is we don’t know but we have called/messaged him and are awaiting a reply.
Tuesday nights the youngest
Child has football training that his dad takes
Him to and is involved in. Every week nobody knows what time he will arrive sometimes
It’s too early and sometimes it’s just bang on time. The boy will Get ready regardless
But the only time anyone Knows for sure is when his car Pulls up outside.

Two weeks ago he called my GF half an hour before the training and said he couldn’t make it so she would have to Drop everything and take him but she couldn’t as I had the car. Therefore we had a disappointed and upset child who couldn’t go.

I’ve had enough of this. It feels like we are tied to his work schedule.
Am I being unreasonable feeling like this?
He’s the kind of bloke that if our jobs impacted
Him in any way he would kick off about it.

Sundays is our only relaxing day together without work or household chores and we often suggest
Places to go or things to do but can’t as we never know when the children will be dropped off.
We have in the past actually Been out and about
An hour away from Home when one of the children has called from the doorstep and asked where we are and why are we not answering the door.

Has anyone else experienced
Issues like this.
I’d really welcome tips or advice On how to deal with it.

OP posts:
LionelMessy · 23/08/2020 23:55

A basic agreement insist upon. Doesn't need be thru court. Draft herself then use solicitor to apply a bit of force.
Rather than a specific time, give a window between 10-12noon Saturday pick up then crucially it's a 24hour visit or 36 hour whatever.
So if he late picking up then he has then the allowed agreed number of hours and you can plan your Sunday with GF.

My wife went to a party and left my autistic 9 year old in her house alone with mobile at 0% charge. I was livid and contacted social services who said no law against a child being left and no specific age when ok as kids mature different rates
..... so my point is 10 and 12 year old can get into house alone. However if kids don't like that one time I would stop them going one weekend to force his hand to sign an agreement even on a scrap bit if paper. Some thing as a reference point.

In summary - he's taking the piss and will continue until you threaten a missed visit and then follow thru with it- just takes out for the day so he needs be forced to make contact if his plans.

Princessbanana · 24/08/2020 01:14

This is my ex mother in law! It really grates on me and my other half. I put up with it for about a year and a half but the past 6 months she’s tried to take them and just lands it on me, I just say sorry doesn’t suit, very busy today, won’t be home and guess what?! She finally started texting the day before and asking and I only agree when I get a set time. If it goes an hour past the set time, I leave the house and tell her I had an appointment and couldn’t wait around!🤷‍♀️ She obviously thought that my time was less valuable than hers!😁

Princessbanana · 24/08/2020 01:15

Let me know how you both get on. It really does feel so liberating being in control after the piss being taken out of you for so long!💐

roundandsideways · 24/08/2020 01:19

I would stop the every weekend arrangement,, because that just causes stress which has to be dealt with every weekend, so it ruins all,plans. If it was every two weeks, this would give you back some control, and allow the children to,develop their own social lives. Things change I. Teen years and they will want to see friends at weekends.
Then you could plan some nights out with your GF, and use a babysitter.
Don't ask the ex what time he intends to show up, give him a time, based on the average time he shows up, and if he doesn't turn up, just tell him the kids and you have made other plans. Hell,soon learn.
My ex behaves similarly and this is what I did. Things are much better, I can have control over my weekend time, the kids know what time their father should be arriving. Older ones have phones and keys.

Bbang · 24/08/2020 09:37

I wouldn’t bother asking the useless sod, I’d start telling him a time and making the children available for that timeframe only.

Maybe give the eldest a key also, I had one at that age.

Beachbodylonggone · 24/08/2020 09:51

A judge wouldn't give him every week end. When is your/gf chill time with the dc?
My exh was useless. A judge gave him Sat one week, Sun the next. Week end every 6 weeks. Offer eow and a night for tea during the week.. Unless overnight would work..
The dc need more down time at home imo.

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