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Can he change his drinking habits?

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Violet313 · 07/08/2020 20:32

I have 2 children, one who is 3.5 and one is 4 months old.

I’ve been with my partner for 6 years. We moved in together as soon as we found out we were expecting our first.

All I can say is the last few years have just been hard.

My partner has been a heavy drinker, when I say heavy, he doesn’t drink every night. He will only normally drink Fridays and Saturdays.
He will buy at least 8 tall cans and sometimes with that 2 or 3 bottles, never drinks spirits, only beers!

He used to try and get away with drinking on a weekday normally a Wednesday to break up the week (and sometimes he will still try) but I put a stop to that as much as I can

When he drinks, (and he drinks fast) his attitude changes
He has never ever been violent towards me or our children so I’m never in fear or anything. But it’s his personality.
He withdraws, looks as though he is staring in to space, and sometimes can’t acknowledge or keep in a conversation, it’s as if he’s in his own little world

He does take medication for some sort of anxiety to calm his mind (I have told him many times he shouldn’t drink /that we need to go to the doctors) but he won’t listen.

My 3 year old knows when he drinks he becomes a bit “strange” and she mentions it but he doesn’t say anything, in the mornings when I tell him how he has been he says he’s sorry, but he doesn’t feel he’s doing anything wrong!!

On a few occasions, he has spoken to me not nicely and can be confrontational if he feels threatened.
This was seen in front of my dad last year, and said he noticed my partner would have a drink, and then 10 minutes later have another one and took advantage of the beers.

When we go round to peoples houses or away, it’s always mostly me who has to look after my children.
Once my daughters medication was due at a set time when he was going round to my dads house for a meal where I was joining later. He “forgot”
His memory sober is terrible anyway, but when he drinks it’s worse
He just sits down with the family and I feel I’m always the one minding the children.

I do of course ask (sometimes shout) at him to help me but it’s so embarrassing and on occasion he has refused saying “he’s entertaining” but also, it’s like he can’t move when he’s had a few drinks because he must feel too drowsy! (In one way might be a blessing - who would want a drunk person to look after 2 children!)

I do love him, I do, but I for a long time almost have a bit of resentment towards him.
I feel like it's affecting my mental health too!

When I have told him in the mornings when he is sober of how he is, he just dismisses it, and whenever I try to say “ let’s go to the doctors to see what we can do” or “please cut down HOW much you drink and how fast”
And I threaten to walk out, he just tells me to stop being so silly

My dad is aware of his ways, and has said the only way he will change is if you left

But I don’t like the idea of doing this.

I feel like I’m always causing an argument between me and my partner but I don’t want to be unhappy for the rest of my life!

Sorry for the essay!

Any advice would be much appreciated

Update: he's gone to bed at 8pm this evening for me to settle the little one as he is feeling so drowsy (he blames the heat)!

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Sssloou · 08/08/2020 12:57

Your DH may reach his rock bottom or not on his timescale. Currently he is no where near it - he is telling you this all day every day in his dismissive actions.

However your DCs only have one childhood. One chance to develop an emotionally healthy personality and state of mind. One has already had their toddler years blighted and can verbalise the unsettling, sad disconnection they experience.

Even if he didn’t drink at all his non team player / zero contribution to working together to do the basic practical parenting chores is more than enough to move on from.

Your life would be so much easier without this toxic lump dragging you down. All of your family and friends can see it as clear as day even if they are being polite by ignoring it.

Wolfiefan · 08/08/2020 13:02

Have you posted this before?
Sounds very familiar.

Heffalooomia · 08/08/2020 13:05

He could stop but he prefers not to because drinking is so useful for him, it allows him to escape into a bubble where he doesn't have to face up to anything or do anything that he doesn't want to

Sssloou · 08/08/2020 13:11

Have you posted this before?
Sounds very familiar.

Probably not but sadly all of these stories are v familiar......and all go in the same downward direction. But the OPs don’t know that yet because this might be the first time they have been up close and personal to addiction. Or if they have experienced it as a child - they may be deluded in their co-dependency to believe they can cure it.

Think that a stately homes type thread would be good for this topic - as there is a lot of experience on this forum.

pointythings · 08/08/2020 20:14

Ssslou I have reported your post to MNHQ because I think your idea is an excellent one that should be taken into consideration. Flowers

AFitOfTheVapours · 09/08/2020 14:20

@Sssloou and @pointythings I think that’s a great idea too

pointythings · 09/08/2020 14:43

Had a response back from MNHQ saying they'll look into it!

Sssloou · 09/08/2020 14:46

That’s great news Thx

Might need one for MILs!

AFitOfTheVapours · 09/08/2020 15:39

Great, hope they go for it

pointythings · 12/08/2020 13:45

They've gone for it!

*Hi there PointyThings

We've had a chat about this here this morning and it does sound like a brilliant idea. We tend to sticky threads once they're 'going' and are proving to be useful so perhaps the original idea of starting it as a Stately Homes style thread and then if it looks like stickying would be helpful we can do that then. We'd recommend you call it something fairly obvious for people to find and identify easily.

Do drop us a line once it's up and running and we can look into stickying it then.

Best wishes
Hebe
MNHQ*

Basically one of us needs to start a Stately Homes type thread and then report it to MNHQ asking for it to be sticky'd. Are you happy to do it Sssslou since it was your idea, or would you prefer me to do it? I'm good either way.

Yay alcohol in relationships specialised support!

Sssloou · 12/08/2020 14:16

That’s absolutely brilliant Pointy - would you mind starting it.....I was also thinking that we could link to some of the relevant recent threads over the past year or so because they tell the same story in different ways and people might connect with one more than another - do you think we are allowed to do that?

pointythings · 12/08/2020 14:46

I think we'd have to ask the OP of any thread we use, it's only fair - don't want to end up looking like the Daily Mail!

I'm happy to start the thread and word it so that people might come on and talk - will have a think about that and probably do it tonight.

Sssloou · 12/08/2020 14:58

That’s a good point - it might be v sensitive and an invasion of privacy if the old thread gets added to and the OP alerted. It would be amazing to here of updates though - what advice helped - what didn’t.

Sssloou · 12/08/2020 15:04

How are you and your little ones doing Violet313? Sorry to take your thread off at a tangent momentarily. Hope you have not been too overwhelmed on here. X

mummabear32 · 12/08/2020 15:10

Gosh my story with my ex is pretty similar, was together 6years got together when found out was pregnant . We have two girls and I have an older boy, he used to drink Friday and sats grututally turned into extra days hear and there. I ended it last xmas hes lived in the pub ever since. My ex got nasty tho would say the most awful things to me when drunk.
In my opinion men who drink so much rarely change I'm sure there is the odd few who do but most will get worse not better. Its not something I wanted my children to witness x if I could go back and leave earlier I would've.

Violet313 · 28/08/2020 08:08

@Sssloou

Thank you so much for asking.

I've read every single one of these comments and to be honest, I'm really surprised and overwhelmed!

I didn't realise I was causing so much damage.

We've had a lot of naughty behaviour from my child recently and we have been a little busy.

Thank you everyone for your advice.

I really didn't know how serious it is especially for my eldest.

I will definitely be looking in to talking about how it can affect our child's behaviour and go from there.

But it sounds like I've only got one option! Which is so sad.

Thank you again xxx

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Violet313 · 28/08/2020 08:11

Also

If we did leave

We half own our property so I can't kick him out.

I only have a part time retail job, I could live at my dads for a while, but not for long.

I have some savings but not a lot of incoming

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