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Inconsistent parenting - I'm not sure how to deal with this?

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CakesRus3 · 06/08/2020 10:06

Separated from H 10 years ago. Not yet divorced (long story). 3 dd's, my eldest is from a previous relationship. Eldest was 3 when I met him so she knew him as her dad. He left when she was 15 and he never saw her again. He continued to see pur 2 dd's who were 2 and 5 at the time. Every other weekend he would take them to his parents. On a Thursday he would take them for 2 hours. That lasted about 2 years. Then it changed to every other Sunday and Thursday for 2 hours. Over the past 8 years, he has cancelled occasions due to going on holiday or having had plans etc. He never would change the day.
Around about that time he stopped going to school parents evening, never attended birthday parties, never had them over Christmas or new year or taken them on holiday. When they would visit him (well his parents as he doesn't go to his house he shares with his girlfriend, never got to the bottom of why), they were told to watch films whilst he watched the football in another room. On summer days, I would ask if they had been to the park, beach, anywhere really, the answer was always no. My dd's have out of school activities in which they need taking and picking up. He won't help with this. I have more or less begged for his help over the years as I have been trying to work and study to be able to be financially stable. He just will not help at all. I gave up asking about 3 years ago. He communicates with them via mobile as they have a phone now they're older. I actually forget he exists. My dd's have just continued to go to his parents every other Sunday as they feel they should. Some times it could be 6 weeks tgat he hasn't seen them due to him going away or saying he's out.
I have worked through lockdown and it's been the hardest thing ever. Dd's have been off school too. Even though fathers were allowed to see their children, he decided against it. It's what I preferred too. Not one phone call, a few texts here and there. Even when we were told we could bubble, nothing changed. It's been 5 months and he took them out to eat twice, to his parents once in the garden. He took them to his house 3 weeks ago and apparently the girlfriend stayed upstairs. Then again 2 weeks ago after going for a walk. They called in for a drink and my youngest asked to look around as it's a new home, he said no. There are so many stories involving him and his lack of parenting, far too many to post.
The reason I am today is because he hasn't planned on seeing them since, he cancelled and said he was working on something at home. My concern is that, when I was younger, my dad was never there for me. In and out of my life. I grew up thinking I wasn't good enough. My dd's question now, why their dad doesn't want to see them. I believe a parent can do more damage being in and out of their children's life compared to being non existent.

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Arrivederla · 06/08/2020 11:07

What do your dds say? Do they express any interest in seeing him? Do they have a good relationship with his parents and enjoy going there?

CakesRus3 · 06/08/2020 11:16

07Arrivederla thankyou for your message. They like seeing their Nan but she hasn't bothered over the years either. I feel a little sorry for her as her husband is a very dominant man. My dd's are a little scared of his father. My dd's go with him as they feel they should and think they would upset him. If the girls question him on his lack of interest, he gets angry. They don't approach it now or ask him for anything. He has made my one dd put things on Facebook so he appears to be this amazing dad. She does it because she knows he goes on if she doesn't. When she writes a card, she tell me her words are lies. This is why I am questioning this more as things my dd's are saying worries me.

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LoganberryOakley2 · 06/08/2020 11:26

@CakesRus3

I'm so sorry your husband is such a terrible, terrible father. I'm angry reading what he has done to your daughters. My parents split when I was young , but I went on to have a consistent relationship with my dad but even then... By the time I became a teenager it became more difficult to maintain. I don't think I'd would have been interested at all if he was anything like your ex. Your daughters are 12 and 15... I would talk to them and say they don't have to do anything they don't want to. I would also try and get a referral for adolescent mental health to deal with the rejection from their father. It's likely to have caused some emotional damage and there is a possibility of a range of negative behaviours that could stem from this. I would be proactive with this, even if on the surface they seem fine.

CakesRus3 · 06/08/2020 11:34

26LoganberryOakley2 thankyou for your message. Yes, it's awful. I know how it feels to have unemotional parents growing up. I was determined to make sure my dd's were not to be affected through the separation. I know they're absolutely fine as I have made sure I am there physically and emotionally. I work in mental health, I guess that's why I am so concerned. Although they're ok now. If it continues, I worry how they will feel as adults. I had 2 emotionally unavailable parents so I think it was worse. I would rather him disappear out of their lives.

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LoganberryOakley2 · 06/08/2020 11:51

@CakesRus3

I totally understand. Right now they are repeatedly getting the message that they aren't valuable. I would say to anyone in a relationship like that to go low contact/ no contact. I don't think it is a bad thing to do. I think you've obviously tried to maintain the relationship but you're the only one who has really tried. . He has saw them twice in five months? He gets them for two hours and watched the TV in the other room? And everything else. Just wow. I'm all for keeping kids in contact with both parents but that is crazy. I totally agree with you I think this is potentially much more damaging than not seeing them . They are mini trophies to him. Nothing more. I would leave it to them and make it clear there's no pressure for them to do anything they don't want to.

Svolvaer · 06/08/2020 11:51

The most worrying thing for me is that your DD has told you she is doing things (FB posts, greetings cards) she doesn't want to just to keep the peace and stop him going on at her. This is not the mindset she needs when she's older and in romantic relationships - do things you don't want to to avoid your partners anger/nagging etc.

CakesRus3 · 06/08/2020 12:00

51Svolvaer thankyou for your message. Yes, I agree completely. These are my concerns. I do say to her that she has to be true to herself. Do not worry about how this may offend if she doesn't write these things. It's ok to say how she really feels. He really is hard work and nags at her if she has an opinion on his behaviour as a dad.

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