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Is it me?

16 replies

Taffydog · 04/08/2020 23:31

A bit of history - split up with ex husband a couple of years ago after 18 years when I realised I he was contributing nothing to the relationship and I’d spent our whole relationship taking charge and responsibility for everything! We’ve remained amicable as have kids together. Dated a bit - couple of bad experiences, most seemed mostly interested in sex and not much more - couple who wanted more but luckily I managed to eventually click onto red flags before things got too serious!!

I’ve been dating a guy who I met before lockdown - lots of lengthy conversations during lockdown finding out lots about each other - last three months since things eased we’ve met up quite a bit, been away together and we get on really well. I’ve probably been a bit too eager to rush into things, a tendency I know I have and we’ve talked about the future as seeing us living together etc. I was initially very reluctant to get too involved though as he’s 47 to my 39 and never had a relationship that lasted more than a year. He also lives with parents still and has never moved out!! He’s always worked but relatively low paid jobs as has had long standing health issues and states didn’t see the point in moving out from parents to council accommodation etc when they’re happy to have him there. Now they’re elderly and in ill health he does a lot to support them as well as working 60+ hours a week. I think the ill health has been a factor in not pursuing relationships if I’m honest but his health issues isn’t something that’s a concern to me. So I moved past this.

He is a lovely genuine guy, we can talk for hours, sex is great, he doesn’t pressure me, he constantly compliments me and is very complimentary, no game playing and I know that he’s very keen on me. He’s happy to support me with the kids and is very understanding that they come first. He’s even an excellent cook and cooked for me every day we were away! He just recently met the kids and was fantastic with them, making so much effort to engage with them without being pushy, has listened to what I say about them and is constantly thinking of things he can do with them they’ll like, cooking, making water bombs out of paper, looking at ideas for presents for them etc. But.....

I’m feeling smothered. He was far to affectionate to me in front of them which I’d asked him not to be. A couple of times he has pushed to come over when I’ve said no and made passive aggressive comments about me not wanting him when I’ve said no. He keeps insisting on paying for stuff and buying little things for house etc that I don’t want and he hasn’t talked about first. I know it sounds pathetic but things like a picnic rug that he’s left at mine without asking. I have got loads already I don’t want or need another!! He’s planning weekends away for us later in the year. Keeps mentioning what we’ll do when it’s just the two of us - with COVID I just find that expectation a pressure. I’ve already said to him that when the kids go back to school in September we may not be able to see anyone for a while as currently we are socially distancing from everyone aside from him but we won’t be in September and his dad is elderly and recently diagnosed with cancer. He doesn’t seem to have taken this on board. He keeps making comments about how I do things eg cooking and that he’ll be helping me with jobs around the home. I’ve come to the conclusion I am controlling and like doing stuff myself in my own way. I think I’m probably so used to doing this that I’m not sure I can compromise enough to actually live with someone. However I know he sees a future where we live together and a month ago I was enthusiastically talking about this with him! Do I need to give it more time, I thought I wanted a relationship it can get lonely on my own and I can’t take up any hobbies etc really as have several kids that need me here. I don’t even know what I’m asking. I’m not sure if it’s me or is his behaviour annoying?

OP posts:
rvby · 05/08/2020 04:48

It's not you. Run.

londonscalling · 05/08/2020 05:46

If it doesn't feel right then it isn't!

Taffydog · 05/08/2020 08:31

Thank you!

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TwentyViginti · 05/08/2020 08:36

Fuck NO!!! it's not you. He wants to walk into a ready made family and home and take it over. He wants help with his parents.

NO NO NO

hellsbellsmelons · 05/08/2020 08:39

He's nearing 50 and has never had a LT relationship.
And... he has never lived alone - always with his parents.
This would be enough for me to run other way, screaming.
But all the other stuff as well.... Just no!
He doesn't listen to you.
He is over stepping your boundaries.
He is moody when he doesn't get his own way.
I think you have a cocklodger in the making.
Listen to your gut!

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 05/08/2020 08:41

I was NOPEing as soon as you said he lives with mummy and daddy.

He is far, far more into you (or into the idea of moving in with you) than you are to him. It would be kinder to him to set him free now before he gets even more emotionally invested.

HalloumiSalad · 05/08/2020 08:45

He is over-reaching, this could come from a good place in his mind, just very keen. But ultimately despite the many nice things you mentioned if he stays being passive aggressive when his expectations are not met then it isn't right no matter what else he does. He clearly had an image of how things will/should be and is investing lots of positive effort into that which is lovely to be on the receiving end of... But the fact that he is unhappy when reality didn't match is a big problem.
It could be a life of never really breaking out of the family home and never having been in a long term relationship has left him with unrealistic expectations or lack of understanding of boundaries. I think you're in too deep too quickly and need to massively back pedal as he needs to respect the limitations there are not resent them if he is going to be in a relationship with you. Sadly I doubt the relationship will survive this. Good luck

Aerial2020 · 05/08/2020 08:47

As other mumnetters would say.....cocklodger in the making. He wants to move into a ready made house.
Doesn't sound like you are controlling because you say no to him sometimes. That's perfectly ok.

Menora · 05/08/2020 08:49

He is seeing you like a potential ready made mum/wife type. You need your own boundaries. I’m the same I have my own house and not at all certain if I would want to share it. I have 2 girls and we need our own space

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/08/2020 08:53

Its not you its him. You and he should not be together because he wants to go from the parental home into another ready made home this time with you to mother him.

I think you've also been love bombed by him and your boundaries in relationship need more work. Your main problem here is that you are lonely and so an easier target for someone like this man to come along and worm his way into your life. You also need to work on your tendency to rush into things through counselling if necessary because that is really not doing you any favours either, it further got you with this cocklodger in the making.

TwentyViginti · 05/08/2020 08:54

It is a very wise trope on here - to test a man, say "no" to some things early on. His reactions to that tell you a lot.

Eddielzzard · 05/08/2020 09:32

I agree with love bombing, pushing boundaries by not listening to your wishes and he has very high cock lodger potential. He is looking for you to replace his parents.

Push back, say no, enforce your boundaries and watch and see. If he respects them medium term at least, all good. Otherwise you're right - your gut is telling you something's wrong. Good luck.

DontInjectBleach · 05/08/2020 09:43

Your post is a bit contradictory OP - you split with your dh because he didn't do anything but you don't like this guy for wanting to do the opposite. You are clearly capable and responsible - and this guy does sound OTT - but maybe think about what you want, if anything.

MaeDanvers · 05/08/2020 09:56

When someone is being ‘nice’ - giving gifts, being really keen to see you etc it can feel like you’re the ‘bad guy’ for not wanting it or liking it. These types certainly try to make out you are - for example
you get uncomfortable with too many unasked for gifts / paying for stuff and say it and they say something like ‘I was just trying to show you how much I care’ etc. Acting like you’re unreasonable and they are just being nice.

Thing is, when you take a step back their behaviour isn’t ‘nice’ at all - it’s disrespecting boundaries and refusing to take no for an answer, trying to force a closeness on you that you’re not ready for. That’s actually pretty horrible behaviour and very manipulative (as is passive aggression).

It’s not the mark of a mature man, able to handle an adult relationship appropriately.

Taffydog · 05/08/2020 12:52

Thank you everyone! I did think some people would be telling me I needed to be more open minded and compromise so the fact that there is a consensus really helps me feel like I’m not over reacting. The poster that comments about him being everything I moaned my ex wasn’t makes a good point and I think that’s one of the reasons I’m doubting myself and thinking well he’s doing everything the ex didn’t so surely I should be happy.

I definitely do have a tendency to rush into stuff and get swept up and those who have picked up on that - I agree I need to work on this. A year ago I would of given in a lot more and not said no to anything so know that I have improved my boundary setting. Before lockdown I was in a good place not desperate for another relationship and had originally told him I just wanted casual. I think the isolation I felt during lockdown and the anxiety it created, especially being on my own with the kids possibly contributed to me rushing into things with him. I’m going to re read the post and think more. I have already spoken to him this morning and been firm I’m only seeing him once next week as he wanted to come round twice so will definitely slow things right down and see if he respects that. Also thinking I may need to say to him on reflection I don’t think I want to live with anyone again - which I’m starting to think may be the case anyway - then if he’s not happy with this he can go. The living with parents thing has always bothered me - but thought I was maybe being unfair as there are some reasons for it and he does do a lot for them...

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HalloumiSalad · 05/08/2020 18:00

People are complicated. He can be a wonderful lovely son and a person who has had challenges in his life to overcome that other people haven't, and yet still, sadly, not be a suitable partner for you.

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