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DH deflecting, blaming and avoiding

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tatkin · 29/07/2020 18:05

DH has a strained relationship with his mother, but sees her out of a sense of duty and calls often (it's easier as she lives a few hours away) She is a difficult person, definite personality disorder, and has been really horrible to me (not to my face so much) and bullied and shamed DH as he grew up, with the often-abroad father enabling her.

Sadly, difficult person or not, she's had a tough time, father with long Parkinsons illness who died a couple of years ago. None of them have dealt with it, his mother had no funeral and basically disposed of his body leaving it to funeral home to cremate him with no one there. My DH won't really talk about it despite careful prompting from me.

His mother then had a breakdown, became psychotic and was almost sectioned. Went from dynamic but nasty to weakened, depressed and nasty.

So of course he feels sorry,, as do we all.

But any conversation about visiting her, her visiting us cannot happen. My DH just tells me when it's happening, and if I say it's not convenient, could it be next week, he flies off the handle and tells me "You've always had a problem with her, I know she's a nightmare..." and any further conversation gets shut down.

He even showed her around several houses in our street when she wanted to move to London without telling me. When I found a leaflet in the car he blamed me: "I knew you would go mental, that's why I couldn't tell you!" Luckily all round she decided she hated London.

He's now told me she's coming to stay this week with his sister (Aspergers, really sweet and no trouble really) and her long term partner (also ASD, who is very nice) They are staying in a hotel, as they have done in the past, MIL is staying with us. Except we are having the roof done and windows put in and therefore we are a bedroom down (she has already kicked off about it) and I am working in another bedroom (7am-3pm shifts) and the children are off obviously and my youngest has a birthday I need to sort (she will not bring presents) and we are due to go away the following week, so I said couldn't we make it later in the month? It's bad enough in lockdown all over each other, let alone this too?

I get shut down, saying I've always hated her, that he know's she a "fucking bitch" (his words) and he then changed the subject to him feeling ill and he's taken to bed (he works two nights a week and so he does need a rest, but the 'I'm ill,' to shut me down is a familiar theme.

I feel like I have no say, can;'gt have a conversation, of any difficulty without being shut down.

"You're so aggressive"
"Is it your hormones"
"You've always been x y z"
"I know you are stressed (when I am not) and tells my children "Mummy is stressed"
"I'm feeling ill, going to take my temperature, where is the thermometer?"
"I'm not listening to this"
"You are always so x yz

You know the drill

I know I am not though.

How do I proceed?

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RandomMess · 29/07/2020 18:09

Honestly I would end the marriage over his communication...

Ok I may say I'm will you go to joint therapy to work on it but he would have to have an epiphany...

LaLaLandIsNoFun · 29/07/2020 18:12

This is never going to get any better....

It is incredibly hard to get someone who automatically depends on those tactics whenever you try to talk to them to see their behaviour for what it is.

How is he the rest of the time with you around other subjects?

Aquamarine1029 · 29/07/2020 18:17

Your husband is a narcissistic gaslighter. Everything is your fault. You always overreact. You're the unreasonable one and he is always the victim.

Fuck that and fuck him. I would not be living this way.

LannieDuck · 29/07/2020 19:04

Infuriating.

If you're genuinely ok with her staying, why don't you select a week that would be more convenient and suggest that (rather than a vague 'sometime later this month').

But if you don't want her staying, it's ok to say that. Your DH may be upset, but he doesn't get to unilaterally impose someone he himself admits is "a fucking bitch" without a discussion. Maybe you could agree how you'd be willing to see her? Maybe he could see her sometimes without you? Would it be ok if she stayed for a weekend rather than a week?

...but if he's unwilling to even discuss it, then I think you just need to veto it completely.

Whenwillthisbeover · 29/07/2020 19:10

IS he all bad, is he suffering from this FOG I read about on MN all the time?

Personally i think he needs counselling to deal with his issues. Then he may be more tolerant and understanding and appreciative of your position.

giantangryrooster · 29/07/2020 19:36

First of all, stay at the hotel sil is staying for the duration of mil's visit, let your dh get on with it.

Secondly, tell your dh to go to councelling in order to be able to have a decent and grown up discussion of things.

Make up your mind beforehand and tell him this is the last resort to keep his family, but mean it. He probably won't change discussion-wise, can you live with being gaslighted/manipulated?

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