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Are these red flags?

41 replies

Kranpetta · 27/07/2020 09:51

Met a new guy and just ended it, about a month in but quite fast-paced.

Looking back and seeing more and more reasons why I did, but trying to figure out if I was too hasty...

He maintained from the beginning he wanted something serious but brought up his ex a lot (who left him and now they don't talk). At first I didnt mind but, when I asked randomly if he missed her, he would say things like "I miss the life we had built together/our plans for the future" and then when we were in his bedroom, he would comment on how cute it was that their dog used to climb on the bed and sit in the middle when they first got him. Said dog still lives with him and this was the first time I went round his house and stayed over, I didn't say anything but it didn't make me feel special. I felt like she was a ghost and always there, and that I was always being directly compared to her subconsciously.

He would tell me lots about his life and his goals, ambitions etc. but when I asked occasionally for advice about mine (we are in same high pressure indsutry, he is a lot more senior), he would respond in an off-hand manner or make it into a joke. E.g. I told him about a new project I was really excited to be working on and his response was "sounds cool" rather than developing the conversation. I also asked him for some career advice a few dates in and at first he responded with quite a standard, dull answer ("stay at your company and work up") then when pressed, said "marry someone rich, divorce them, marry another richer guy, divorce him, then go for someone even older and richer while you have your looks and divorce him" - wtf. I laughed it off but just felt like he wouldn't invest in my life emotionally.

When we went on dates, he'd choose a place we'd discussed and that he really liked and ask if I wanted to come along as he really wanted to escape our city for the day. It was good fun but just felt so casual and all about him/what he wanted, rather than making the other person feel special at all. I felt like I was very much coming along for the ride.

On our dates he would go into long monologues about things and I would respond/give conversational cues, we would chat, but as soon as I said something it would become clear he wasn't actively listening. E.g. I would say a few details about my family background after he asked e.g. my dad used to work in an office, his direct response would then be "ah ok so your dad must work in the oil industry then right?" He would correct himself after but I just felt quite superfluous to him and quite replaceable.

There are more red flags but wanted to see if these made sense to others? I know it was early days but he was really pursuing and I kind of feel that that is when people are putting their best foot forward. A month in is when you should be making someone feel special, listening to them, engaging with them... Or am I asking too much?

OP posts:
Kranpetta · 27/07/2020 13:41

Thanks everyone for the comments and insight, guess that was a bullet dodged and good to move on. How do guys like this find someone to settle down with?!

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LilMissRe · 27/07/2020 13:53

I think they are red flags actually. People normally bring their best foot forward when dating and he clearly hasn't.

As Maya Angelou said "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time"

Well done OP.

LilMissRe · 27/07/2020 13:54

Blimey he sounds awful.

RustyLeesBogBrush · 27/07/2020 14:04

@BlingLoving

He was boring and self centred. Possibly also somewhat misogynist. You recognised the relationship wasn't working and you ended it.

In the nicest possible way OP, now it's time to move on. t was 1 month, you were smart and got out before you got in too deep. This guy is barely a blip in your life. Don't give him any more headspace.

This is exactly what I was thinking.

Op trust your instincts on this one, this guy sounds shallow and selfish and thinking only about his needs and his wants. You deserve better.

rosamunda · 28/07/2020 10:47

He sounds like a self-obsessed bore OP. Well rid!!

fflelp · 28/07/2020 11:36

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
He's a right bore. Not compatible.
Next!

Bunnymumy · 28/07/2020 11:42

Thought the bringing up the ex could b4le narcissistic triangulation (when they make you feel not good enough in comparison/like you are living in competition with some other woman or the memory of them).

And right enough, when you continued with him not seeming to give a shit about your likes or goals and 'monologs'...yup. He is likely a narcissist. Run for the hills! Ruuuuuun.

Lochie662 · 28/07/2020 11:53

I just read your posts and he sounds like an awful person and he keeps company with equally awful people. The secretary being passed around is a vile misogynistic thing to say, and the friend who needed to buy two plane tickets for his wife, was disloyal. And there's so much more.... I cant believe you stayed as long as you did, he seems so immature.

You are doing absolutely the right thing ending this relationship. Onwards and upwards.

BertiesLanding · 28/07/2020 11:55

This is the behaviour of a man who can't be alone.

Opentooffers · 28/07/2020 12:30

Either he's a mysoginist that thinks women can only measure their success by the wealth of the man on their arm, or his ex left him in his eyes, for a man who has more than himself, either way he sounds very bitter and not someone you would want to be tangled up with.

rosamunda · 29/07/2020 11:08

OP you definitely made the right decision so head held high and don't give this any more thought!

MaeDanvers · 29/07/2020 12:18

God yea don't question yourself, you made the right decision. I don't think you sound like you were needy at all, the guy was behaving oddly and you obviously noticed. He sounds like he is a very self-centred person and not at all interested in who you were, just wanted someone there to be a mirror. By that I mean he just wanted someone to talk at, to do his 'romantic' things for, fantasies about having a baby, and generally just reflect himself back. Frankly, it sounds like you could have been anyone to him.

Bullet dodged, well done for ending it when you realised it wasn't working for you.

Kranpetta · 29/07/2020 12:31

thanks all, I think what hurts (and I know I am being a bit pathetic!!!!!) is that he had told me before that he had become friends with some of the women he'd dated. Apparently they had called things off but had suggested it and some of them he still sees to this day for drinks etc.

I suggested we do the same (god knows why) and he originally was keen but then never followed up. Even tho I dont want someone like that as a friend (I can now see), it has made me feel really rubbish in comparison - like why them and not me? Potentially they hadn't dtd I guess?

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Lochie662 · 29/07/2020 13:22

@Kranpetta

Honestly , they probably stayed friends because the female was still starry eyed in infatuation and had successfully ignored the red flags or unlikable traits of this man, and he sensed that and liked the continuing attention.

I think he senses that you have stronger boundaries and weren't exactly buying what he was trying to sell. I believe the only reason he hasn't pursued a friendship is because if some version of this. He seems very ego lead and ego focused. You're not feeding his ego as much as he thinks he deserves.

This is all good for you. I know it doesn't feel like it but it is.

You deserve so much better than this.

lovemenot · 29/07/2020 15:30

Sounds like his ex is almost as savvy as you are, fair play to you, you sussed him out much quicker than she did.

kittenpeak · 29/07/2020 17:56

The ex comments don't seem like red flags to me at all. Just so

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