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Was she the golden child or is my therapist exagerrating this?

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saladandpies · 25/07/2020 10:18

Recently started therapy and to be honest I’ve always been sceptical about it! But I’m trying because I know I struggle with emotions and want to work on that.

Summary is that I always felt jealous of my sibling who had a lot of attention for being exceptionally good at playing piano. I will list some of these things even though I feel a bit embarrassed as they seem petty as an adult!
Every Sunday family would come over and we would all sit for an hour to listen to her play. No talking was allowed during her playing and I was told to shush if I asked a question. Granted I would sometimes do this to distract from the constant attention on her. It just felt awkward for me, I feel embarrassed and insignificant.
We spoke travel all over the uk in holidays - not all holidays. We would stay in nice hotels but at age 11 I didn’t care so much about that. We would drop her off and wait for up to an hour at a time for her in the car. The entire conversation about what she was doing at this particular camp.
Both parents were weird around her teachers...treating them like gods. This is no exaggeration here and it is amusing rather than sad but I include it to give the whole picture. I had to be nice and polite and chatty with these teachers and parents would want to hang around outside the room where lessons were held so they could hear what was going on. This wasn’t every lesson but I do remember it.
I was often given money to spend during days when they were focused on her, for instance when j was old enough I could wander off on my own when we had gone away on a music camp for her. I would have significant money which kept me entertained, buying books or food or clothes. I enjoyed this but always felt lonely and knew on some level even then that it was a literal price paid to keep me happy while they had attention elsewhere.
Comments growing up like why do you need constant attention, why can’t you go and read a magazine like your sister
Comments like if we died we would be worried about leaving your sister with you but we would be content knowing you had your sister...you can’t be trusted or relied upon.
When I was revising for exams my parents would allow this music practise to go on as and when my sister wanted, even to the detriment of my own learning. I was good at school and it didn’t affect my exams I don’t think but it made things very difficult and stressful.
Once in the car without my sister while she was at a practice, my mum said to my dad, if my sister hasn’t got into this prestigious course, she would have thought oh ok she’s not that amazing but now she had got onto it she had it all confirmed that my sister was really something special.
I was continually called jealous and told if I wanted to learn an instrument then I had the same opportunities as my sister but apparently I just wasn’t interested.
Told constantly that I had been a nightmare to bring up, I was a difficult child
They would often compare us as say we had the same upbringing so why had I turned out like I had
Told constantly that I nearly broke their marriage
Told constantly in jest that they had made financial sacrifices for us and, again in jest, they would be in a huge house and very very comfortable now if they hadn’t spent money on our education
Told that I was weird regularly.
Told that my sister badly needed a break as she worked so hard, I was never afforded this sort of understanding or consideration about my own feelings
As an adult they will still refer to these things and call me a difficult child if there’s ever any sense of a dispute about anything

There’s more but that’s the general jist. It is only fair to say also that I had huge amounts of support with my life too, they would attend school things and were interested in school work and they did want what was best for us both, I just always felt sidelined.

OP posts:
saladandpies · 25/07/2020 10:19

Sorry my question is, does this seem like what my therapist says? To me it doesn’t mean golden child but I don’t know the real meanings of the terminology and I am not sure if sometimes therapists say things to tick a box of a name etc

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CodexDevinchi · 25/07/2020 10:23

Well you didn’t have the same up bringing did you. It was very wrong sided. And yes she was the golden child.

Your parents were living their dreams through her.

helpmum2003 · 25/07/2020 10:23

I agree with your therapist, sounds horrendous, poor you.

Thesuzle · 25/07/2020 10:25

Yes i would say sister is the golden child.
My brother was, purely for being the boy.
Box up your feelings, nothing will change, they wont change.. dont spend a minute more of your life fussing about this.

TheVanguardSix · 25/07/2020 10:30

I am no therapist. But God. Poor you AND your sister, who will, undeniably have her own plate of shit stew she's working through, courtesy of your parents who seemed to love you both conditionally.

Yes, your sister was the golden child but not by choice. Parents inflict this damage onto their kids, their little performing seals, and a child has little choice but to go along with the parents' antics because this is what they know love as. So having your parents love, for your sister, meant being their little demi-goddess on the piano. Having your parents love, for you, meant standing in the shadows, out of the limelight's way so that your sister could benefit from its lumination, only it was for your parents' benefit, no one else's- not your sister's, not yours.

I grew up with two cousins who had a similar relationship with their parents. Both of my cousins have little to no contact with their parents today (they are in their 40s now). They have worked hard on their own sibling relationship which was significantly damaged by the dynamics their parents created. But they're doing well and emotionally happier than ever.

RandomMess · 25/07/2020 10:33

Yep horrific upbringing for both of you!!!

howlat · 25/07/2020 10:39

Yes she was the golden child.

I felt very sad hearing about how you were treated. The child saladandpies was treated horribly. She was just as special and important and did not deserve to be sidelined.

Your sister was def golden child but what maybe makes it a bit different to normal is that they also treated her badly and she will undoubtedly come up against some significant problems herself at some point, if not already.

I feel bad for you both. To be clear though, her mistreatment as golden child doesn't make your treatment better or even ok. You were treated badly.

saladandpies · 25/07/2020 10:50

Thanks.

What is hard is that since then they have recognised to SOME extent that this went on. They even said they regretted putting so much pressure on my sister. They’re less able to see the impact it had on me but I know they see now that it was generally wrong.

They are also hugely better in my adult life than when I was a child. They’re good parents and I know that they meant well. They came from poor upbringings and so the money they had was seen as opportunity that must be taken in the form of schooling, exams, extra curricular. They wanted what was best for us and to push us but obviously children aren’t to be used like that and that’s why it didn’t work. But they didn’t mean to hurt us, I know that deep down.

Yes my sister has mentioned various things over the years about feeling she isn’t enough. She never became a pianist for a living and turns out she never wanted to in the first place.

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RandomMess · 25/07/2020 10:53

"They're good parents"

They weren't "good parents" whilst you were growing up, they were focusing on filling their unmet needs.

Therapy will really help you, your DSIS probably envied you even though you were treated as lesser. There are no winners with golden child, the dance for all DC is horrific.

AgentJohnson · 25/07/2020 10:53

To me it doesn’t mean golden child but I don’t know the real meanings of the terminology and I am not sure if sometimes therapists say things to tick a box of a name etc

Interesting, you are questioning the validity of your therapist’s choice of terminology whilst admitting to not understanding the term. Then you go onto questioning the profession by stating a clearly held belief, born out of I don’t know what.

Why exactly are you in therapy? What are the things you are struggling with and where’s the place you want to be when therapy ends?

QualityFeet · 25/07/2020 11:00

I think with parents you often have to be able to see that they did the best they could with what the knew at the time even if it was shit. Mine did some awful things but not with any malice. These days they are much improved and we get along well. I would make a distinction between them and genuinely toxic parents - they were just clueless and bound by their own limitations. They have continued to grow and change and I respect that. Hope you are able to find some ease with it. They were shit and did make your sis the golden child.

differentnameforthis · 25/07/2020 11:02

Not only was (is?) your sister the golden child, but you were emotionally abused.

The things you mentioned don't seem petty at all [fowers]

Windmillwhirl · 25/07/2020 11:03

I agree with your therapist. It is very clear she wasvtge apple of their eye and you were tolerated and placated to keep out of the way.

Perhaps you are struggling with this reality as it is ery clear you were treated unfairly by your parents.

differentnameforthis · 25/07/2020 11:04

Flowers even

Lochie662 · 25/07/2020 11:06

Does the term "golden child" always mean narcissistic parents? I've done a little bit of reading in that and you had the golden child, the scapegoat and the lost child I think , if there was a third.

The reading I did ( in narcissistic families - I am NOT saying your family is narcissistic just this is my reading) "The golden child" can change, it's not necessarily always the same child, just the dynamics mean that there is always a preferred child. Be careful that your adulthood hasn't improved because you are now the golden child.

Windmillwhirl · 25/07/2020 11:11

I dont think it has to necessarily mean narcissistic parents. There could be a "favourite" but if we are looking at it on a spectrum, the op's sister was more than just a favourite.

Alfiemoon1 · 25/07/2020 11:15

Yes your sister was the golden child I didn’t experience this as a child but now as a adult my sister is the golden child in my mums eyes and my dd is also the golden child out of my 2 children it unfair its emotionally abusive so unfortunately I don’t have much to do with my dm or sister anymore for my own mental well being

Dacquoise · 25/07/2020 11:28

Therapy is all about exploring things that have happened to you that may have been dysfunctional and damaging but you see as 'normal'. It is quite uncomfortable having your world view challenged which may be why you are a bit bewildered by terms such as 'golden child. It does seem as if you were scapegoated by your parents because you were challenging their uneven treatment of you and your sister. Labelling you as weird and difficult is classic scapegoating. Hang in there. You are getting to the bottom of things which will feel uncomfortable and you may distrust your therapists motives and methods but the results can be life changing. Self awareness is a pricless investment in your personal development and you may find your difficulties begin to resolve.

BertiesLanding · 25/07/2020 11:29

Yes, it is a term that is used in therapy, and as far as I can see it's certainly not an exaggeration. (I am a counsellor.)

Your reticence to go into therapy is entirely understandable, as you have a lot to sift through and to deal with. Finding fault with your therapist may well be a defence so that you don't have to go through with it. That's worth thinking about imo.

dottiedodah · 25/07/2020 11:48

I think many parents may do this unwittingly TBH. Your DS has obviously felt under pressure as well really ,or she would have fulfilled her potential and become a concert pianist! This happens a lot and one child may get all the attention while the other one is left to their own devices .The main thing to concentrate on is your future R/L with them.It seems as though your Sister wasnt happy either! Going forward and having Counselling will help you to deal with your childhood .To an outsider it seems she was a "golden child" and you were sidelined as you say .If you generally want to see them and your Sister as adults ,maybe just low contact rather than cutting them off altogether .You and your DS were "enough" but if they still treat you as a "naughty"child then you may find it better to see them less for your own peace of mind!

AnnaMagnani · 25/07/2020 12:02

my sister has mentioned various things over the years about feeling she isn’t enough. She never became a pianist for a living and turns out she never wanted to in the first place

Yes, the golden child is not a role without price. While it looked like your parents favoured your sister and family life revolved around her, they actually had no idea who she was or what she wanted to do with her life. She never had an opportunity to tell them she didn't like the piano that much as they had so much invested in her.

It doesn't necessarily mean your parents were narcissists but it does mean they they didn't handle parenting very well. It sounds like they were so overwhelmed with having a talented child and wanting her to have better opportunities than they had, they lost sight of who all their children were, favourite included. And if she was the golden child, someone else has to be the problem child - sounds like they decided it was you, whether you were or not.

Therapy can be very helpful in making sense of what has happened and that beliefs you have about yourself aren't necessarily true - just roles you were given 'the pretty one' 'the loud one' 'the naughty one' and help you establish who you are and how you are going to relate to everyone as an adult.

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