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Suddenly affected by past (sexual assault/abuse,Triggering)

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afferal · 24/07/2020 20:52

Hi
I'm not exactly sure what I want from this post but I know I need to get this out in "words" so to speak. Sorry if it ends up muddled and long 😳

I've watched lots of documentaries/read stuff about sexual abuse over the years and never felt personally affected, obviously apart from feeling sadness ect.. for the victims.

Last week I watched the Epstein one and I've been a wreck in my head since, it has triggered some experiences I've had growing up (no idea why this programme in particular was a trigger) but I feel like I'm going mad and can't seem to pull myself together.

My experiences were nowhere near as bad as the ones suffered by those in this documentary.

3 in particular are just playing on a loop inside my head. I honestly thought I hadn't been majorly affected by 2 of them, the 3rd I have definitely tried to block out,keep in it's "box" but now it's refusing to go back into the "box".I think i feel the 3rd one was my own fault and im really struggling with how to deal with it now it's out the "box".

The 1st experience was when I was around 7 and my mum moved in with her then boyfriend. My mum is an alcoholic and was very neglective/abuse growing up(I've been NC for 15 years now) anyway she would palm me off on anyone she could and go out drinking ect...I was often left with her boyfriends uncle and over time I became close to him, he used to stroke my hair,stroke my legs/bum tell me I could confide anything in him and he wouldn't tell my mum, buy me things behind my mum's back,then one night I was asleep and he came into the bedroom to wake me up, started stroking me and unzipping his trousers when we heard my mum come in, he got up quickly and bolted from the room. I remember there being an argument and his brother shouting why was he in my room and he stopped coming round after that.It was only years later when I learnt he was in prison for sexual abuse against children that I started to think that maybe he had been trying to groom me as a child.

The second experience was between the ages of 9/10 and I used to stay at a friend of my mum's sometimes a week or 2 at a time. She was like an aunty to me and her husband like an uncle. He was a PE teacher and lived in shorts ,after a while (when we were alone) he started to always try get my attention, say I was watching TV he'd say something and I'd answer without looking up from TV and he would say no you have to look at me when I'm talking to you..and the first time I did he was sitting on the sofa with his legs open and errect penis hanging out of the side of his shorts. I actually remember thinking omg he mustn't know he's showing but was too scared to say anything. It started to happen everytime we were alone, and progressed to him getting me to sit on sofa with him and he would stroke himself.He also used to buy me comics and always stuffed in-between comics was a porno mag and he just used to laugh.I knew this was wrong even at that age but I think I always felt it wasn't that bad because he never actually touched me in anyway.Again the realisation came years later that he may of possibly been trying to groom me when I saw him in the paper charged with sexually assault against two girls in a swimming pool that were having a swim lesson with him.

The 3rd experience is the one that's causing most issues.When I was 15 a "friend" and I went to see one of our favourite groups in concert. The place was 2 train rides from where we lived but close to one of my relatives houses so we were staying there after the gig.We got the train in the morning and spent the day in the city, my friend bought a bottle of vodka with her and we were pretty drunk by the time we got to the gig and still afterwards.I remember when it finished we were supposed to phone my relative to collect us but the line for the phone was huge(before we all had mobiles)and my friend said let's just go and get a taxi, I didn't want to as I was told I absolutely had to get relative to collect us and not wonder round late at night looking for a taxi.my friend stormed off outside and I stood in line for about 10 mins when she came rushing back in saying quick come on I've got us a taxi waiting and I gave in and went with her.At some point the "taxi" drove down a dark road and he asked my friend to give him a bj she said no way...but she will(meaning me) before I could even say anything he was out the front and in the back with me grabbing me, I kept saying no I won't and remember my friend saying just do it, it won't take long, i started crying saying no...and he grabbed my hair and pulled it so hard and pushed me down onto him...I refused to open my mouth so he squeezed the back of my neck so hard I opened my mouth to scream and he forced himself into my mouth and literally 5 seconds later came all over my face. He got back in front seat and drove us to a road behind my relatives house(I lied about address as I didn't want him to know where it was) it was never spoken about between her and me.But to make matters worse a few weeks later in school ppl were starting to tell me that a rumour was going around that I'd quite happily gave an older man a bj in the back of his car and ppl were calling me a slag ect...at the time that hurt more than the actual event itself I think. I've always blamed myself for this incident mainly for being a bit drunk and not waiting in line to phone my relative like I was supposed to.

I just don't really know what to do now, I've had years of blocking this out, I'm in my 40's now and have no idea why now it's all coming out and how to deal with it, I just feel so lost and just can't think what I'm supposed to do now.x

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afferal · 24/07/2020 20:52

So sorry that post is so long 😳😳

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Coconut80 · 24/07/2020 22:52

You poor soul all three sound awful, vile and traumatic events. You sound like you have been triggered and suffer PTSD and no wonder. I'd try and get a referral to psychology for trauma based work. Maybe see gp in meantime for as req anxiolytic to cope with the overwhelming thoughts. Google how to self soothe for ways to feel calm anf thought block. I too suffered csa and it never leaves you what these disgusting people did. I am thinking of you, look after yourself you are not alone xxx

LOTTIE881 · 24/07/2020 23:34

OP I read your post with such sadness, I am so sorry you had to go through all of that.

Please consider counselling, where possible. I know it’s been put away in your ‘box’ but I’d also be inclined to contact this so called ‘friend’ no matter how many years ago this happened, what a vile horrible person she sounds.

Wishing you all the best, sorry this isn’t very helpful but could not read and run Flowers

afferal · 24/07/2020 23:39

@Coconut80 thank you so much for your reply (and taking the time to read my long post) I do think I need some sort of help now ,I used to think these experiences were minor or my fault somehow. I'm going to Google what you've suggested, thank you

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DelphiniumBlue · 24/07/2020 23:46

That sounds awful. 3 different men thinking it's OK to do that stuff to a child. And your "friend", how dreadful was she.
Sadly you are not alone, most women I know have suffered at least 1 incident with adult being at the very least sexually inappropriate with a child.
That third incident was akin to rape, don't accept responsibility for some gross adult man forcing himself upon you. It wasn't your fault. And even if you think it was, you were a child and did not legally have the capacity to consent to that assault. Children cannot consent to sexual assault, and the adults around them should protect them, not drive them down dark country roads and attack them.

afferal · 24/07/2020 23:49

@LOTTIE881 thank you too for reading and reply I absolutely can't contact said "friend" I'm too angry to do that right now... believe it or not she was actually on my FB???? Untill tonight I've no idea why I ever accepted her friends request. I think I've allowed ppl to bully me and get away with things due to my upbringing. Thank you, it feels so good to actually tell people x

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Colourmeclear · 25/07/2020 10:16

I'm so sorry to hear of your experiences. I teared up a little. Thank you for sharing, I hope it has helped a little. I had also put things in a box and lived my life and then one thing in the present brought it all up again. I've been in counseling a while and really recommend it.

I understand that you might feel as though what happened wasn't 'bad enough' but the feelings from most situations like this are the same, powerlessness, feeling stuck and shame with endless 'what ifs'. If it's hurting you then it is bad enough to feel hurt. I hope that makes sense.

There's always Rape Crisis is you need some immediate support (don't let the name put you off). They have been helpful when talking about things from the past.

Please be kind to yourself, and remember we are here to listen if you need.

Comtesse · 25/07/2020 10:34

You poor love. It was not your fault. I’m so sorry all those things happened to you.

MaryHeck · 25/07/2020 10:44

I found just reading your experiences harrowing, OP, so no wonder you are having difficult feelings about them.

It’s very, very common for people to ‘push down’ memories of sexual abuse. It’s a coping mechanism. It sounds like they are coming back up for you now, though.

I’m not a huge fan of therapy, but I think for any kind of issues around abuse, including historical abuse, it can be really helpful.

All the things that happened to you are horrible and were not your fault. I hope you can get some help and find some peace. Flowers

MattBerrysHair · 25/07/2020 10:51

You poor thing, you sound full of anguish. It's really common for victims of child sexual abuse to minimise what happened to them or blame themselves, especially if they've grown up in a neglectful or abusive household. All those men were sexual abusers and absolutely none of it was your fault.

When I had memories resurface in my early 30's I found a therapist who helped me process my feelings. Without her I don't know how I would have functioned. At first it was horror, anguish, disbelief, shame and grief, but eventually I got to the point where I could accept what had happened and know that it wasn't ok, and know that although the memories may occasionally crop up when I least expect it I would be able to deal with it and it would pass.

I really feel for you, I hope you are able to get some help that works for you Flowers

afferal · 25/07/2020 12:28

Thank you so much to everyone for replies. I woke up this morning and instantly regretted posting this as I started to feel that all this wasn't really that bad and I was being stupid. Your posts have confirmed that it is bad.
I'm so sorry to everyone that has suffered abuse too Flowers Flowers Flowers

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boymum9 · 25/07/2020 12:37

ThanksThanks I just wanted to say I'm so sorry for you going through those three traumatic eventsSad

Boeufsurletoit · 25/07/2020 12:42

So sorry for what you've been through afferal. It's awful, and it's the grooming that makes you question yourself. Those men were abusers. I hope you find help Flowers

Gobolino80 · 25/07/2020 14:20

Your experiences are harrowing to read, I am so, so sorry this happened to you. You are one strong lady to have carried all this inside you for so many years, and brave for talking about it now.
I cannot urge you enough to seek help with this. I have recently sought help for an historic sexual assault and I feel better already.
Make an appointment to go and speak to a female GP who will be able to point you in the right direction, or a quick google will show you what support is available in your area. I am thinking of you Thanks

MummyofTw0 · 25/07/2020 14:26

I'm so sorry you've been through all this

afferal · 25/07/2020 16:18

Thank you again to everyone replyingFlowers It's really helping as I'm swinging between feeling I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill,it's not really that bad to feeling quite traumatised and back again.
Posting this has finally helped me to open up to my DH, he knew fragments of first 2 incidents and almost nothing about the 3rd. I've shown him what I've posted here(I can't quite tell him it all in words) and he's been immediately supportive and understanding, also confirming it's not my fault.

Thank you to everyone and to the poster who recommended rape crisis (I didn't realise it was an organisation that helps with other things other than rape)I've looked on their website and I'm going to try the live chat 1st thing Monday morning when they open, I'm not ready to speak the words out yet on phone ect... Flowers Flowers

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Babynumber2dueNov · 25/07/2020 19:16

You are absolutely not making a mountain out of a mole hill. You poor poor woman. I think most women have had some form of sexual assault or harassment but this was extreme. I’m so sorry you had to go through it and have spent so much of your life fighting it inside. You don’t have to rationalise anything, it was wrong on all accounts and seeking help is definitely the right thing. My heart absolutely breaks for you and I truly hope you get the support you need xxx

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