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Closure?

14 replies

redheadedafro · 15/07/2020 14:10

(Talked about this before but need answer to another question)

Need your opinions, please.

I (31/F) met someone (37/M) on Bumble about 6 weeks ago. We hit it off and were inseparable. I work in the health sector and he lectures in art so our jobs are completely different.

We had sex on the second date and pretty much agreed to be sexually exclusive from then. We spoke about many things and were vulnerable with each other. Part of what we spoke about was his divorce (which he’s in the middle of) and the last lady he dated before we met. Of the last lady, he said they had met up once for sex and sexted after but things fizzled out during lockdown and she moved 200 miles away. Assured me they stopped sexting.

While trying to show me a picture on his phone, about 3 weeks into dating, I noticed a woman’s naked body in his recent photos. Asked him about this and he apologised, saying he has looked at it but wasn’t actively sexting. A week later, he asked me to be his girlfriend and both of us were very happy. We deactivated our dating profiles.

I’ll just add—about our sex, we had good sex to the best of my knowledge. He described it as “great” so I thought we were on the same page. We spoke about fantasies and sex toys and he said he had neither but would like to be choked to “see how it works”. I hadn’t tried it before so I did a shit job. We never spoke about nor tried it again.

Anyway, a week after us being official, I realised—while he was sending me our pictures—that he had still been sexting this lady (the one that moved 200miles away). In fact, they NEVER stopped. (It’s a bit more messy as he lied and lied before fessing up). I was broken. He apologised and said he was going to stop. We did not talk for about 24 hours after this.

The next day after finding out, we met up to talk and agreed to try again. He lied he hadn’t been in contact with this lady in 24 hours and I directly asked if they did anything differently sex-wise that we weren’t doing, his reply was “no” to both. Anyway, he again fessed up they had sexted within our 1-day break and I was furious. I asked him to show me his media and realised he would put on a leash and restraint and blindfold and recorded himself to her.

These are things I am willing to try and I was just shocked he felt, in his words, “embarrassed and ashamed” to tell me about them. The relationship was early and I felt there were many things to explore sex-wise for us. We decided to take a week break—this was for him to break off communication with the other lady and we would see where we stood.

One week in, he told me he found it difficult to break it off as he would lose a friend in her (said they bond over their love for literature). Wasn’t sure if he wanted anything serious and he was scared I would abandon him later if we reconciled. Told him the last point was bullshit. He said all the cliches: “wrong timing”, “you’re amazing”, “it’s not you, it’s me”. My self esteem dipped—he ditched something he admitted was “amazing” over what he described as “not serious fantasy, I’m not sure she’s moving back here.”

This morning, I found out he has reactivated his dating profile. I am, again, shattered. He obviously wants to meet other people; just not me. So it’s me, not him. Also, “wrong timing” is not true as he is actively still searching. Should I message him to ask for the truth as to why he decided not to try with us? I need closure. Not sure if it’s the right step. Help, please!

TLDR; I found out my boyfriend lied to me about sexting and his sex preferences. Was ready to forgive but he did not want anything serious. Now, he’s back on dating apps. Should I message for closure?

OP posts:
TwentyViginti · 15/07/2020 14:16

What closure do you need? He just wanted sex and sexting with multiple women.

user1493413286 · 15/07/2020 14:21

I don’t think it is you; I think he just wants to have sex with different people. I think closure in general is often almost impossible as you’ll never really be satisfied with someone’s explanation and never be sure if it’s the truth or not; better to draw a line under it and move on

Anordinarymum · 15/07/2020 14:25

OP He's a twat. Get rid.

Headandheart · 15/07/2020 14:31

You’ve only known him six weeks! I think you’re doing a disservice to yourself to be ‘broken’ and ‘shattered’. Plus he sounds really horrible anyway. What are you doing?

Mischance · 15/07/2020 14:34

He sounds a catch! Bin him!

Sunshineandflipflops · 15/07/2020 14:34

Firstly, you seem to have covered a hell of a lot of ground and had way too many dramas for a 6 weeks relationship!

Secondly, as a pp said, he is unlikely to tell you the truth for fear of hurting you or sounding like a twat so any 'closure' you get is unlikely to be real.

I'd just walk away - he's not into monogamy. I met someone similar but it took me 5 months to work it out.

vikingwife · 15/07/2020 14:38

As soon as I heard “lectures in art” I thought “here we go, he will be a wanker” - then saw how hard it would be to cut off sexting with someone as they had “bonded over literature” eyeroll

I would refrain from referring to him as your boyfriend - it was a fling & you should take a step back to think about why you’d be so willing to forgive this behaviour in the first place.

Closure comes from within. Whatever you’re expecting from him, you won’t get it. Whatever magic words you crave, he won’t say them.

TooTrueToBeGood · 15/07/2020 14:39

Your closure should come from recognising that he is just a player and you're better off out of it. Accept that and move on. It's unlikely anything he might say could give you ny more closure and as he has proven himself to be a liar why would you trust him anyway?

WellIWasInTheNeighbourhoo · 15/07/2020 15:01

Does the idea of having a man on a leash, restraint and blindfold sexually interest you? Thats a very specific sexual fetish and puts you in a domme role, I imagine it would escalate to other bdsm activities where is he the sub. Thats obviously what hes looking for and unless you are into that too I dont see why you would want to carry on with him.

hellsbellsmelons · 15/07/2020 17:00

Please learn from this.
Within 6 weeks you had found out he was a liar and a cheat.
And still you took him back.
Do some work on yourself before getting involved with any one else.
The minute you spot a red flag in future - you dump and run!
You have closure.
He's told you he's not interested.
He's just not that into you.
Do not accept any bullshit from any man, ever again!!!

AIMD · 15/07/2020 17:02

Delete and block him on everything and move on. He lies right from the beginning. Take some time to reflect on what you might need to see in your next relationship, in terms of commitment trust, before you get serious with them.

crimsonlake · 15/07/2020 17:15

Six weeks and inseparable??
I cannot really believe what I am reading...closure?
I suggest next time you chose more carefully and do not get so carried away.

Elieza · 15/07/2020 17:16

He’s not the one OP
Plenty more out there.
It’s really NOT you and it’s ALL him, he’s a shagger. Probably has a sex addiction. Wants lots of sex with multiple women online or in person.

You’re better off out of it.

You weren’t to know, who would. But now you do block and move on.

Crystalspider · 15/07/2020 18:41

What a nutcase! I feel so sorry for you that he led you on to believe you were exclusive for each other but a blessing to find out sooner rather than later. I don't think you'll find closure from him and contact won't do you any good, read all advice on here and accept he's one to avoid.

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