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How do I ever get over this?

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MyLifeWTF · 05/07/2020 11:45

Hello mumsnetters, I apologise in advance because this is going to be a long and probably frustrating one for some. I would like to add that I know all my mistakes and I have hated myself so many times and I dont need any ltb comments as that has already been done. I just need some input and advice on how to move forward as I am struggling mentally...anyway here goes.

I have a 7 nearly 8 year old and was with his dad basically through my twenties and all he has done is cause me so much hurt and pain. It's so historic that I literally look in the mirror and ask myself how did I even allow it to get this far? When I fell pregnant he didnt want my son, he was verbally abusive and just didnt want to be involved (I wish I walked away at this point) eventually he slowly got more involved and by the time my son was born we were basically together as a family.

We was so fresh into our relationship that neither of us really knew how to act with each other but I tried I really did. He continuously cheated on me and I just let it go because I felt like I forced him into the relationship and family life and I was so young and stupid!

Years go by and he got better, we loved each other (or at least I did) we moved into a bigger house and was a proper family, I was so integrated into his family it became the norm to always be around them, it was normal.

As time was going by things were getting bad between us, he constantly had messages from girls on his phone, he was never at home, always out with his friends or staying away from home for weeks, this carried on for ages and I hated it, I hated myself, I felt stuck because I was so deep in with his family I felt like I couldn't leave. I worked full time and paid for all the childcare etc and done all the picking up dropping off.

He was lazy, never worked, never helped out around the house, was mentally and verbally abusive, was never around for any kind of emotional support. I felt alone but not once did I cheat or even so much as look at another man. I, for some reason, was so in love with him. I dont even know why? My family would ask me what is it you see in him? And I just couldn't answer, I just felt it. I believed he had good in him somewhere.

Anyway, this went on for some time and I became so in myself that I lost sight of who I was, I was such an angry person. Many many times he left, came back and each time he would say his sorrys and each time I let him back. I ended up so mentally drained that I became suicidal and ended up being sectioned. He didnt answer my calls or come and see me once, he used that as an excuse to call me crazy. It hurt so much.

When I left the hospital I went home and just felt like it was all a different life to me now, he started to stay at home a bit more and be a bit more supportive but that lasted about a week!

I still stayed. I had nowhere to go, no other support, no savings, no hope. In the same year my dad passed away from alzheimer's and my sons dad couldn't have been less supportive, he went out the night it happened and didnt even come to the funeral with me.

About a month or so after this I had some money that my dad left me and I had so many plans to sort my life out with it, but sons dad suddenly became my best friend, I bought him a car, gave him money and just generally spent the money. I was so far gone into my mental health that I did this to keep him around. Money went so did he.

We argued for months and months and he would come in and out the house whenever he wanted to, one night we had one of our nephews over who was only 15, sons dad was smoking weed in the living room next to him and I told him to get out the room because nephew is a child and not to smoke around him. Tensions were already so high that it escalated into a huge arguement and he hit me in the face in front of my nephew and my son.

That night I called the police and he left the house. The next day I got blood results back from the Drs I was waiting for and I had an STD (bearing in mind I have not gone with a single person since my son was born) this was the last straw for me and I called womens aid and arranged to go into a refuge. I felt I had no choice, I had nowhere else to go, no one to turn to. I lost all my friends because of him.

I packed my bags while he was out and me and my son left for the refuge with literally a bag each. I was so scared, I told no one and I honestly thought he would find out and get to me before I left. I moved to a complete different county. I am from London, proper city and moved completely rural with a mixed raced son. I was scared about everything.

The first night at the refuge and it was like I was in someone else's life, I just couldn't believe it was real. I kept thinking I should just go back, it would all be alright if we talk like we usually do, but then it never changes anyway. The police were calling me and I was ignoring it, my sons dad had told them I kidnapped our son, I thought they were going to arrest me and take my son.

I was in the refuge 6 weeks before I had any contact with him. In that time he had sent me email after email. First they were abusive, then they were sorrys, then they were promised. I went through every emotion and I couldn't do anything for ages, I slept and didnt eat. I thought I would never get a life back because how could I? I was so depressed, I've never felt that low in all my life and now i was even lonlier with not a single person around me.

I made friends in the refuge and I think I made the wrong ones because they were hurting just as much as I was and they were in the same position and whenever we spoke as a group we all sort of wished to be able to get things right and it made me want to speak to my sons dad even more. I ended up contacting him.

Now here is where I have the biggest most stupid failure and regret of my life.. I agreed to give him one more chance. I still loved him so deeply even after all of it. I'd hoped my leaving and shocked him into a better person. I rented a place in the new town and he moved in. Please dont tell me how stupid I am, I already know this. I failed as a mother as a woman. And I still made an even worse decision than this one.

Things were good for about 6 months, then the messages to girls started again, the arguing. We decided to separate before it got worse. He moved out to the next town over and I carried on with my life. It was good, I had a full time job, I made some amazing friends, I was living again. I honestly couldn't have felt happier.

He still came to see our son and we was getting on alright, no arguing, having a laugh etc. This carried on for a year and it was all good. In that time he begged for me back over and over and I stayed strong and genuinely didnt want him back. Christmas eventually came around and he was meant to spend it with us but he said he had work, over that holiday period I realised how alone I was. All my new friends obviously had xmas with their family and I was in this rural town on my own and that was one of the worst xmas' because I had just me and my thoughts. Dont get me wrong i still made it fun for my son but there is only so much you can do.

New years eve came around and i got a call from my sons dad and he said how much he was missing us as a family and how he wished it was different now that he has grown up and matured etc etc. He asked us to move in with him in the town over as it was more of a city and theres more about etc.

Biggest regret number 2 I went....I am so ashamed of myself and writing it all down is making me feel so embarrassed and deserving of all my pain.

Anyway a year on and it turns out he was sleeping with a girl from this town the whole time and while I was at work he was seeing her. He bought girls to my house and messaged loads all kinds of things. I have cut ties completely. I know it may not be believable considering my track record but I am a lot more wise now. Written down the timing seems close together but this has been over years and growth has been my biggest achievement.

My reason for posting is this.. I am in this town now completely on my own, I havent made friends here, I work full time and do ALL of the child care and pay for it. He is very dismissive of how he has treated me and seemed to just get on with his life like he hasn't a care...I know why. He has no respect for me because I've had no respect for myself all those years by keep going back. I know this. My thing is how do I just get over it now, I mean the hurt, the pain, the complete lack of feeling for me when I have been through so much just to be with him? I am struggling mentally with all these thoughts. No one can tell me how much of an idiot I have been, more than I tell myself. I have the most regrets and now literally nothing to fall back on. I am so alone, i feel so lonely, i have done for years and I've lost all my dignity all my self respect and I dont know how to get any of it back. I dont know how to move on from the lies, the betrayal knowing I put myself in it.

I know this is such a long post but I needed to write it down somewhere. I needed people to read it because I blame myself for so much. I contemplated suicide today because of how low I feel. I get times where I'm fighting myself. I just cant live like it anymore and I feel like it runs so deep now that we are BOTH the problem and he will stick to a recent event whereas I have all of this in my mind. I'm going crazy and i dont know what to do for the best. I see no way out of this life anymore. My own fault, my own doing, my own decisions.

Thank you if you did read this all.

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isthatthesummerover · 05/07/2020 11:57

First of all stop blaming yourself for anything at all
What you did was have hope that the person you invested in and share a child with would ...
Change
Grow up
Accept his responsibilities
Become a family
Show respect
Love his child
Love you
Share a life
Share a family
Build a future
Be a man
Be a father
Be a partner
But - he chose not to
So that was his choice not yours
You are stronger than you think , accept you did your best
He's a twat... who needs that ?
Sending you a hug 🤗

MyLifeWTF · 05/07/2020 12:01

Thank you and I do try to think that way but it hurts when I think well why did he choose not to? After all of that why would he still want to hurt me?

But I am reading your words and taking it in. Thank you for the hug.

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babbi · 05/07/2020 12:01

First of all , if you really feel suicidal please call someone. That is your priority .
Can be Samaritans , Women’s Aid etc

Stop blaming yourself , what’s happened cannot be changed .
It’s not helpful to beat yourself up about it and will drain you .
Acknowledge that you have done well now to be away from him and vow to have minimal contact and discussion with him going forward.
Only chat should be about access to your child , any other conversation is where you are being drawn back in .

See today as the start of the rest of your life .
It can and will get better .
You left before and made a life with friends etc ... you really do have the capability of doing so again .

Life is a journey, we all have made mistakes and will continue to do so.
We don’t need to be defined by them ...
they are things you did they are NOT who you are ..

Take care of yourself , you are vulnerable and sensitive just now ... focus on your health and well-being and care for your child ...
day by day things will slowly get better , trust me , if you keep him out of your life , one day you will look back and be so proud of yourself that you did this

babbi · 05/07/2020 12:03

Oh and don’t waste time and headspace over why he behaves the way he does ....
that’s his (huge) issue but not yours ...
That’s about who he is not who you are ... and you are better 💖

MyLifeWTF · 05/07/2020 12:03

Thank you babbi, I think I am being more sensitive right now because of the lows. You are right though I did it once I can do it again. I know I will be alright it's just getting through this bit.

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babbi · 05/07/2020 12:10

Yes this is the hardest .part.. you just wish there was a fast track through the next 6 months ...as we all do in the first few days of heartache ....

Hang in there and look forward to the future when you will be stronger ...
I have so much more confidence in life now ...
I really do feel that I can cope with anything now ( obviously not entirely true we all have hard times ) but that’s how I feel in my approach to life .
I think I came through that , I can do anything !!!

I wish you the very best in life going forward

Rainbowqueeen · 05/07/2020 12:25

I think it’s really hard for kind straight forward honest people to understand why other people choose not to behave in that way.

You will probably never really understand. See that as a good thing - it means you’re not like him
Then make the decision to move on. Focus on yourself. Focus on your DS A good person can always start again. Yes it takes time but it can be done
Sending you strength and wishing you all the best

MyLifeWTF · 05/07/2020 12:30

Thank you for all the kind words. It is making me feel better. I am not like him you're right. I dont know what the word for someone with those behaviour traits are called but I do believe in karma and I think in the end the bad always fall.

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SoulofanAggron · 05/07/2020 12:37

Firstly, please see your GP/consultant and explain to them how you're feeling. They could up/change your meds to help you cope with things. There are loads of things they can try. They could also put you on a list for counselling etc. Or if you can budget for it you could pay for a therapist. It's worth the money I promise you. I prioritized it even though I'm not earning, and pay for it from my disability payments. There may also be places in your area that offer free counselling etc or support groups where you could meet like-minded women. You could ask WA what they know of locally.

he will stick to a recent event whereas I have all of this in my mind

This sounds like you are still talking to him on more than a practicalities level. Don't speak to him unless it's about something you have to arrange for your son. There's nothing to be gained from any conversation with him. He's bad news.

Be proud of yourself that you've got out, and please stay out. xxxx

ineedabreakk · 05/07/2020 13:09

You've been through such a difficult time, please be kind to yourself. You're so strong, even though you might not feel it right now. Please see your GP for your suicidal thoughts. Take care Thanks

Midwife1997 · 05/07/2020 13:09

You can do this lovely. Reach out to anyone who can help you. As someone once said to me 'baby steps'. Big hugs.

Midwife xxx

MyLifeWTF · 05/07/2020 13:51

Thank you to each one of you. It sounds crazy but actually all your words have helped me and its mad to think how differently I feel about all this to what I did an hour ago! Just shows that I will have lows but I can do this!

In regards to the suicidal bit, I shouldn't have written it, I know I've got loads to live for. My son being the main reason, I just hope I never get that low that I feel it's my only option again.

Thank you again!

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MaeDanvers · 05/07/2020 14:08

It’s ok to admit you’re feeling low enough to feel suicidal. It’s ok to feel that way. You’ve done exactly the right thing by reaching out and expressing how you feel and that has helped you. So don’t feel bad about that.

To me you sound like such a strong and loving person. You’ve gone through a lot but kept on going and achieved a lot by leaving him, getting a new job, all those things.

Try to focus just on you and your son. I know it’s hard, but you’ll never really get a reason why your ex did the things he did and is able to be so abusive. Try not to blame yourself. You think he has no respect for you because of what you think is your own lack of self-respect, but people like him wouldn’t respect you even if you had the self-esteem of Beyoncé.

Things will get better and the more time you spend away from this guy the better life will get. It’s just hard to see right now. Flowers

Misslees · 05/07/2020 14:09

You have gone through all this because you have desperately wanted to make your family work. You've given him the benefit of the doubt. Forget the past - i.e. don't spend your time dwelling on it as enough time has been wasted on this loser. I really feel for you OP. My advice is to focus on your future without him and do things to make you and your son happy. If you can free yourself from him emotionally, it will change your life. Absolutely nothing will change from thinking all this through all the time - what's done is done and you did it with a good heart and the best of intentions. You are torturing yourself. Don't let him waste more of your life. At the end of the day, he is a bad person - selfish, a cheat, a liar, a terrible father. You can make friends, find a life in your town. But you need to free yourself from being his prisoner in your own mind. You need to draw a line. Maybe speak to a counsellor if you can, but in the meantime, maybe read some self help books, try to enjoy the small things and try to make a life for you and your son.

MyLifeWTF · 05/07/2020 14:55

Absolutely and in time I think I will start thinking that way. I already know what I've got to do it just about getting there. Part of me wants him to do a dramatic change and be with him because I feel like I still love him but the bigger part of me knows I'll be happy without him and have no feeling toward him at all. Does it make me a bad person to know that he will never really get far in life and that makes me feel a bit satisfied, like it's the only thing keeping going? He tends to rush things and does really good for a few months and then falls apart whereas I go slow and slowly build and my good things last. Does that make sense? Am I being a horrid person for thinking that way? I just feel like he always has good karma but does shitty things and I'm the opposite!

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MyLifeWTF · 05/07/2020 14:55

I realise that last part was a bit contradictory. I mean like things fall in his lap all the time even when he is down (usually me picking him back up) whereas I have to fight and work hard for my good things

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