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Questions for separated/divorced parents

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AllAboutWineGums · 29/06/2020 05:22

My ex-wife has a new boyfriend and there's a couple of issues that have arisen that I'm not sure what to do.

First one. New guy goes over to her place several evenings a week. Kids seem to like him. Seems to bring sweets for the older (6) one every time. No problem with the fact that he needs to develop a relationship with the children, but not sure I like him "buying" it with sweets, especially when it's outside the normal eating habits we have historically set with the children. My feeling is that if I was doing it (in or out of the marriage), it would have been called into question..... should I bring this up or let it ride?

Second one. The kids stay in the same place every night and us parents swap location for the nights I spend with them (this was her suggestion that I agreed with, in the children's best interests, though I can't afford a place big enough for them to stay over as a result of the separation). I'm pretty sure he's been visiting my place when she's there. Obviously it's not reasonable that someone has been staying in my place without mentioning it to me, so there's a conversation to be had there. What I'm unsure of is whether it's immature of me to say he shouldn't be staying there at all because I'm not keen on a stranger being in my place, and my bed isn't a hotel, I don't want to be coming back to sleep some where people have been getting it on in. (Because ofc, they can go to his place, even if it's geographically a little bit inconvenient - the main loser from that would be me as it would make swapping back a longer journey for me).

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Cherrybakewellard · 29/06/2020 05:30

I believe the arrangement you have is called 'bird nest' set up which means the kids effectively live in the house and you two swap. While this sounds great in theory, you've already seen it's not that easy. Personally I think for everyone to move on you should strongly consider between you moving to new places and the kids going between. This is not unusual and the kids will adapt for sure.

The fact is now you have separated you have to let some of the control go. I say this as a mother of children who have a father who's parenting style is so so different to mine and as someone who has been through a lot of stress due to this.
A few sweets isn't something to pick a battle over. You'll probably find the kids will get bored of the sweets soon anyway.

AllAboutWineGums · 29/06/2020 06:55

Unfortunately I won't be able to do much about the size of place I can afford for realistically a couple of years. Combination of not setting good boundaries on her using my savings to set up her career while we were together, the split of assets in the separation, and redundancy due to the pandemic, even affording the cheapest place available at the moment (which is what I've got) is an issue. We're both at fault here, she spent beyond ours means but didn't give me a fair picture of what was likely to be coming in, I abdicated responsibility for managing it better and setting limits on it, the situation is what it is now.

Eurgh, I don't think I can adequately explain the sweets thing without writing something that looks like it's making a mountain out of a molehill (and maybe it is, that's why I came here to ask, maybe just throwing it out here means I can put it to bed and decide not to bring it up - and you know what, if a whole bunch of people tell me that's the case then that's fine).

Our parenting styles are not that dissimilar TBH, if we both wrote a list of reasons why our marriage failed I don't think either of us would write anything to do with parenting/the children. I get your point about control, but I'm responsible for the children 3 days (2x 1.5) out of 7, the child in question has challenging behaviour (to the point where she's had sessions with a variety of specialists to examine it, but no one has identified a particular condition), and so if her expectations are set on one side, then if I don't give her the same then I have to deal with 1-2 hours meltdown. The thing is, she won't get bored of the sweets, the only way out of it will be to have a few weeks of meltdowns, once something is in her routine, it's in her routine - and one of the big causes of meltdowns is things that challenge her routine. We had to get creative with snacks to ensure she gets the right kind of nutrition every day. And she already gets sweets and (mostly natural) sugar anyway, at least a lollypop (or the world ends), marshmallow at the coffee shop, dark chocolate covered rice crackers, honey, jam (off the top of my head, there might be other things) - this is every day. If it seems like I'm overly sensitive here, we're both trained in nutritional health (different niches though) and the idea that having "sweets and treats" causes dysfunctional relationships with food into adult life, and we've had to put a lot of effort into getting the right diet that supports her being able to manage her own behaviour. It's not come up yet, but it would be entirely in character for her to see them in a supermarket and have a meltdown if I refused to buy them for her. Putting aside that her mum would never buy them for her in the first place, if it was her mum doing it, having a simple conversation about it wouldn't be an issue (her mum is more learned in that area than me, so I usually ask just to understand, then defer to her judgement - I realise the obvious question here is "well isn't this mum's judgement by proxy anyway?" - no, if the bf was asking before bringing something for the kids I'm 100% sure mum would say bring some playdoh or something arty, not food, for the reasons explained above).

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mellowww · 29/06/2020 08:47

Hi OP. I'm sorry because it sounds like you are now into all the seemingly small but actually quite significant details of negotiating the new life for you all, and this uncharted territory can be, as you are finding, rather tricky.

You've come on here form to check your calibration - should you be reacting/acting or letting things pass. My thoughts are:

It is completely unviable for the bf to be staying over in your place. OMG no way. This just doesn't feel right. If they are together and he stays over at your old house, then when not there they must go to his place. Just say you don't have any problem with him but feel a bit invaded by him staying at your home now, so that needs to change. These things happen - if you're nice, and reasonable, then the others can end up doing things that trample you a bit - important to speak up if something feels wrong.

The sweets - your ex clearly should and dies know better. You need to address this with her. He needs to be told about your daughter's sensitivity. If exw can't do this, you can. No sweets. No way.

You're not off key - you're right to speak up about both of these things. Set a precedent now where you can discuss things and set your boundaries. It will be important going forwards.

mellowww · 29/06/2020 08:48

Argh typos! You've come on here to check, and your ex does know ...

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