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Marriage ending - advice needed on telling my DD(7)

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Catsatonic · 21/06/2020 00:06

I'm a very long time lurker and never in a million years thought I'd need to post here but I need some help. This is long, I'm afraid.

My H and I have been together 16 years, married for 11, and have 1 DD(7). We were always a great match for each other and have been happy and in love with no problems.

However, last year my H had a serious bout of depression - something he had suffered from before but had never fully admitted even to himself. He felt a complete lack of love for anything and had a few complete breakdowns. Eventually he got counselling and spent a long time working on himself, discovering that he also suffers from relationship OCD. However, it became apparent that there were problems with our relationship that I/we knew nothing about. Towards the end of last year, we were talking about a trial separation so that he could take some time away to heal/find out who he really is and we could both think about what we wanted. All through this time, he told me that he was sure deep down he still loved me and that he hoped he could feel it again.

Around the middle of Feb this year, he began to question whether moving out was the right choice. I went through phases of either really needing him to go, or desperately wanting him to stay. Then, of course, lockdown happened.

He was working from home full time, I was home schooling and going into work (a school) one day a week. We were stuck in a limbo with nothing happening. We hadn't kissed since new year, or said 'I love you' since sometime last year. We stopped talking about things, as our DD found it difficult to get to sleep and was still awake beyond 10.30pm (still the case now). She also felt scared if we were downstairs, so we never had much privacy to talk. I always followed his lead, as I wanted to be mindful of his depression.

2 weeks ago, my H went on furlough and last week he finally opened up. He said that he had been exploring his spiritual side and realised that he had been hiding his true personality from himself for a long time. He no longer had any desire for a romantic relationship - he finds the whole idea alien now. Even thinking about his parents or married friends is weird to him. So we've agreed that we have to separate for good and I am utterly heartbroken. He's the love of my life and I've no idea how I'll ever get over him.

More importantly though, we have no idea how/when to tell our DD. We told her last year about her daddy's depression, saying that his brain was different and sometimes he might be very sad. Any time he had a bad day, we called it a 'bad brain day' and she knew that he needed some time alone, but we have never told her that he no longer loves me. I really want to tell her soon, because she can obviously feel the atmosphere (even though we are still being friendly with each other and there's no nastiness), but I'm worried that she will get her hopes up if it takes a long time for him to find somewhere and move out, then be crushed again when he goes. She is a complete daddy's girl and she will be utterly devastated by all this. However if we don't tell her soon, I may not be able to cope with pretending to be ok all the time.

Sorry this has been so long and epic, any help or advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.

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funnylittlefloozie · 21/06/2020 00:17

Why have YOU got to come up with the explanation for DD? Why cant Mr Spiritual talk to his spirit guide or something, or re-arrange his chakras to find the appropriate words to help her? TBH i would tell her the simplest version - daddy and mummy dont love each other but we both still love you. Keep it simple.

Catsatonic · 21/06/2020 00:20

Thanks for reading and replying. I did mean that we would both be telling DD, not just me. I agree with keeping it simple with her, I'm just not sure when is best to do it - now, or when he's actually found somewhere?

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faithfulbird · 21/06/2020 00:47

It breaks my heart reading that. But I guess it's life. Does him not wanting a romantic relationship mean he wants to end the marriage? I've been married nearly 5 years but I wouldn't say we have a romantic relationship. We just get on with life without thinking about things we used to. Like we know we love each other but we don't have to tell each other I love you or kiss. Maybe we give each other a hug here and there...but just focus on our child. How do you feel? Do you want it to end?

I know you must have been through a lot helping him and living with his depression. But as I was reading, it felt like you were going through a lot of stress. How are you? I know it's hard. But please take time to look after yourself.

What does he mean exploring his spiritual side? And has he told you he doesn't have feelings for you?

When the time comes please be considerate of your daughters feelings. Tell her that mummy and daddy love her very much but need to go on their own journey alone because they've grown apart. You don't need to tell her that you don't love each other. Even if you don't, it seems like you still 'have' and 'will have' love for each other.

Catsatonic · 21/06/2020 00:58

Thanks for your reply faithfulbird. I'm very much one of those people who likes the relationship to feel like a relationship iykwim. I'm tactile ( but not overly, I hope) and I love hugs etc. I'm not happy in a loveless marriage - it feels like I've been friendzoned! I don't want my marriage to end really, but I don't want it to continue like this, I'll end up resenting him.

I've been dealing with a lot of other stress in my life too, but I do try to look after myself. I think ultimately this split will make things easier for me but it doesn't feel it now.

With his spiritual journey, he felt like his depression was partly due to having no spiritual side at all, so he's been exploring any and all different things. He has told me that he feels no love for me, although he still thinks of me as his best friend.

We definitely won't be telling DD that we don't love each other any more, I think looking at the replies so far I have a good idea of what we should say. It's just a question of when.

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Neome · 21/06/2020 01:11

Is the following true?
"DD, you know Daddy has not been well and has been having 'bad brain days'.
You and I love Daddy very much and we have both really tried to be brave and help him.
Everyone is doing things differently because of Coronavirus and I am finding that difficult sometimes, are you? I do get to spend more time with you though and that's a good thing that's different, is there anything you like that is happening now?

Daddy wants to spend a lot of time by himself trying to feel better and he wants to find somewhere to live where he can be by himself more than he can now. I'm sure I will feel sad and miss Daddy but I will try to make our home a happy place and I hope Daddy will feel happy when he visits us. I hope you will tell me if you feel sad or cross or anything else. I hope we will all get used to our new way of living one day and even find some things about it we like."

Catsatonic · 21/06/2020 09:15

@Neome that's a lovely thoughtful way of putting it, I'm not sure that I want to make it because of him though. I would worry that she might think that if daddy gets better he'll come home, but that's not the case. Even though in my heart I wish it could be.

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suggestionsplease1 · 21/06/2020 09:39

This sounds really hard for everyone OP. Has he ever been on medication? It sounds like a bit of a crisis for your DH - do you think he might be vulnerable to groups that are offering an easy solution for his feelings? Do you have any idea of what he's researching, who he's involved with? It sounds like something he may come to regret in time.

But unfortunately even if this was the case he is a grown man and will choose his own path so there's maybe not much you can do as your interference in this would possibly be considered controlling.

Catsatonic · 21/06/2020 12:15

@suggestionsplease1 thanks for your reply. He tried medication a long time ago but hated the unreal feeling it gave him. He talked it through again with his GP and therapist and decided it wasn't for him. The spiritual stuff is more meditating and astrology (I know, I know!) He's not in any groups or being led by anyone. He's been sceptical for a long time and says that whilst he doesn't buy into the whole thing, he has gained some insights into himself from it. When I talk to him it actually all sounds really positive and I'm glad that he's able to finally be himself, it's just heartbreaking for me

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