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Partner angry & looking at drag queens after my dads death

30 replies

Lavendella · 25/05/2020 20:46

Warning - this is long!

A bit of background info: I moved from my home country a year ago, with my children, to live with my partner. We have been together for coming up four years.

We have been happy, mostly, and I was always sure he was the one, or I wouldn't have moved. But the past months, he's had some issues with anger - shouting at me, throwing things and slamming doors. I don't do this back; I tend to burst into tears when someone raises their voice at me. Arguments mostly over housework or other women - he hasn't cheated or anything though. Mostly it's been same old same old, but it seems like the angry outburst have been becoming more frequent and it's been worrying me a bit.

Three weeks ago, my father died. It has been torture. Because of covid 19, I wasn't able to go home and be with him when he died, and I haven't been able to spend time with my mum and sister or help with anything. I missed the cremation ceremony. Two days after his death, and after a particularly bad day which I had gotten through with some nerve meds and a cigarette (I dont usually smoke), my partner came home from work. My kids were hyper and so I decided to leave bedtimes a bit later and get some washing up done. This sent him into a rage though, as he didn't think I should be doing it (because of a sore back), and he accused me of having sky high unrealistic standards for house keeping. Every dish was dirty, by the way. He shouted and me and started throwing dishes into the sink and aggressively washing up while muttering angrily about not wanting to do an hour of dishes after a long shift. I took myself to the bathroom and cried - picked myself up, did bedtimes and after that listened to him shout at me about how me "going through this" didn't give me a right to annoy him, shouting at me to leave him alone and go away, while I literally just stood there and openly sobbed. I just couldn't deal with him being cruel on top of what I was already feeling. Overload.

We went back to normal after that, but two weeks later, I got a message from Instagram informing me he'd made an account. My partner does not have social media. I clicked the link and found it empty except for following one person, a drag queen from a different country. He lied about it at first but then said he'd seen a picture of this person online and thought they were hot and told me to think of it as porn. I was really upset by this and we had a huge argument. It wasn't a famous person by the way, a private person with their own selfies. He insists he found it via a google search but I've struggled to believe him as the person isn't known and doesn't come up if you google them.
We had a huge argument and he said he just has a thirst to look at other people and eventually admitted he's "a bit bi". Only just admitting it to himself, he says.

We went on to have lots of talks about our relationship, with him actually crying at some of the things he used to do or say at the start of our relationship, begging me to give him another chance. It also came out, in a discussion about his anger, that he has a bit of a "bully mentality" towards me. He says it's "easy to be mean to someone kind and tender because they won't fight back".

He now insists he's found the light and is awakened from a depressive slumber. Sees everything clearly, knows for sure all he wants is me and I'm the love of his life: he's suddenly helping with housework and kids, saying nice and romantic things, suddenly wants marriage and kids of his own with me (things I want but he always was adamant he did not!).

He is happy as can be as feels reborn and full of lust for life. I feel completely betrayed. I've taken to doing my grieving in the shower as I don't feel comfortable being vulnerable with him anymore. I feel like I'm just counting the days until I can go home to my family and clear my head. I can't stop thinking about the things he's said to me.

I want to know what you would do - would you understand? Be okay with it? Forgive? Believe in change? Is my judgement clouded by grief? Or insecurity, as he'd have me believe? I feel so confused at this point. Obviously this is a "brief recap" as discussions have gone on and on. I just don't feel any better after any of our "clarifying" talks!

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 25/05/2020 20:50

Go home to your family and stay there
He's an abusive knob

Dollyrocket · 25/05/2020 21:06

Sorry OP, he sounds like a massively over dramatic bellend who doesn’t give a fuck about you or your feelings.. The old Mumsnet special of ‘he’s shown you who he is, believe him’ applies here.

Are you on the other side of the planet or can you get back and isolate with your kids soon?

CocoR · 25/05/2020 21:14

I'd be fucking gone.

Bananalanacake · 25/05/2020 21:18

Why do you want to be with someone who shouts and throws things and makes you cry.

Cocobean30 · 25/05/2020 21:18

Didn’t get past seeing the drag queen on his instagram, i was already screaming ‘LEAVE HIM’ in my head when he was kicking off at you for washing up! Quite clearly an abusive relationship ship and you need to go back to your home country with your children. Can your family help you with this?

Lavendella · 26/05/2020 00:02

I thought perhaps that would be the feedback. I've been quietly waiting until travel restrictions ease up and we can go back. I was planning to at least stay the summer in my home country, long enough to clear my thoughts a bit. I do feel like it's hard to see clearly or really know what you feel about something when you're so submerged in it. Obviously we do love each other and have a lot of fun - but I'm afraid things will keep escalating. He says he'll go to therapy and get his issues and anger problems sorted out and that he'll never go back to being the way he was. Sounds an unlikely change overnight though 🙄

OP posts:
MazDazzle · 26/05/2020 00:07

I was mentally shouting ‘get out’ long before the drag queen message. This is not a healthy relationship. Go to your home country and take your kids with you as soon as you can.

USirName · 26/05/2020 02:53

Please leave him Op, get your children and yourself somewhere safe. I too was saying LTB before you even got to the drag queen part. He's an abuser and he was blaming you for his abuse (comments about you being timid). He will not change, I can guarantee it. Take care of yourselfFlowers

DeeCeeCherry · 26/05/2020 03:04

He is a repulsive emotional abuser. He glorified in being nasty to you when you'd been bereaved. Not once in your post did you mention him comforting and supporting you when your father passed away. Anyone decent wouldn't even treat a friend like that, much less a life partner. & Make no mistake - he knows how you feel. & That you're still sad about your father. The oh so happy act is all a part of the game that you're meant to go along with and put on your happy face too, whilst feeling bad inside. That will make him feel good. All this, and salivating over drag queens too? Go home OP. No man on earth is worth this.

AJPTaylor · 26/05/2020 03:28

Where are you? How far from home? Put arrangements in hand to get home and have nothing more to do with him. That's no life for you and your kids.

5LeafPenguin · 26/05/2020 05:32

He's not a nice person underneath. You have put significant effort into this relationship, he was not there for you when you needed him. Instead he treated you with contempt and spoke selfishly at your lowest point. This is unforgivable.

Because of the anger issue, things are more complex. Don't think that this has disappeared, you are just in the nice part of the cycle...in which he makes himself feel better both about escalating his abuse and coercing you to accept the drag queen thing by wiping it from all possible conversation. It feels fake because it is.

Your post sounds like you are a trusting caring partner and you want to see the best in him. You have invested a lot in this relationship, but now is the time to focus on what is, not what you hoped for. If you had known this was coming ( the anger, the selfishness, the drag queen) you would not have moved. Focus on that.

Don't underestimate your situation or the difficulty/risk in getting away from an angry man especially as you have children. Double up on contraception. Keep your plans to yourself. Pack the essentials ( and quietly ship the big/ important stuff if you can); leave for a long trip home. Once you are there tell him you are not coming back Guard against being sucked back in.

Good luck. I'm sorry for your loss and that this has happened to you.

Lavendella · 26/05/2020 08:28

Thank you for your replies, it's honestly touching. I mean it's sad, but I knew that. I've been going along with everything and just waiting to go. You're right that this isn't what I agreed to.

He has comforted me, but since the arguments I no longer talk about it or show emotions as I just don't feel safe in doing so. Worried that showing sadness will upset him. I realise how grim that sounds!! It's just difficult when you've tried so hard, and really love someone, to accept that this has actually happened. But to the pp who said it was unforgivable - I agree. It's just too much. M

I'm hoping they'll open up flight traffic next month, then it's not too long to wait but enough time to make plans.

Thanks again everyone who commented on this. It's made me see things more clearly

OP posts:
Tappering · 26/05/2020 08:32

I was screaming 'leave' at the screen, at the point where you explained that he stood in front of you shouting, two days after your Dad died. What a cunt. Pack your stuff and go as soon as you can.

Very sorry about your Dad Flowers

PicsInRed · 26/05/2020 08:41

Sexually attracted to drag queens and punishing you for not being one. This will not improve - it usually gets worse from here as an abusive man like this feels more entitled to suit himself and sees you as the obstacle to his true self. He will likely bully you worse and worse, both to punish you and also to try to make you leave him, so that he is the good guy, he is the victim of you.

You need to leave now to protect your sanity.

ShebaShimmyShake · 26/05/2020 08:48

Get out get out get out get out. He's simply not who you thought he was and you'll be chasing a person who doesn't exist.

pog100 · 26/05/2020 08:52

You sound like someone who has really got their head screwed on and you will do just fine. I, like you, do not believe he can change his character overnight, or indeed at all and you are rightly just not comfortable with him. Now is the time to split not years down the line. Good luck and be careful when it comes to the split, he sounds unstable.

BecomingMe · 26/05/2020 08:59

Aside from the drag queen Confused he sounds really horrible.

I can’t decide if it’s good or bad he admitted he has a ‘bullying mentality’ towards you but if that sums up his attitude towards you, you will never be happy with him. Even when he is declaring undying love like now, you cannot trust him.

I would take yourself and your children back to your home country ASAP.

Lavendella · 26/05/2020 09:20

@BecomingMe I can't decide either, but it's impossible to unhear!

He was majorly panicking for about a week, before deciding we are great again - begging me to stay and saying only I can help turn him into the man he can be, and he knows he can change and be good for me and we can be happy. But that quite honestly wasn't in the job description!

To the person who said "attracted to drag queens and punishing you for not being one", that's really interesting, as he's often talking about women wearing "to much make up" - but is then clearly attracted to that if it's on a man. I've been thinking about that a bit. Interesting.

OP posts:
5LeafPenguin · 26/05/2020 09:56

Re the bullying mentality,

If it came up after you've mentioned his bullying behaviors to you and how it hurt, and he couldn't do anything else but admit the behaviour, then he explained how your demeanor enables it for him....then ime it's bad. Sorry.

needhandhold · 26/05/2020 10:24

If he’s “a bit bi” this is not going to improve. He’s using you until he’s got the confidence to come out. I’ve seen this before. My friends ex is now living with a guy but it was 5 years of hell for her and she still can’t trust another guy. He’s openly admitted to bullying you. This is because he’s unhappy. He is living an untrue life and you are taking the brunt of his frustrations and self loathing. You must protect yourself and your self esteem. Get home to your family as soon as you can. Your dad has just died. Ring your embassy and see if they will fly you home on the basis of an emergency/compassion. They are still operating flights for this type of thing

differentnameforthis · 26/05/2020 11:52

Google "cycle of abuse" ... yelling, slamming doors, throwing things.. is abusive... then the apologies, wanting to move on, begging for another chance...

The crying by him is a distraction as to how he has been treating you. He is trying to get you to move on, and forgive him by "suddenly" being "a bit bi"

Him saying you ate easy to bully is him saying it's all your fault, he is "allowed" to bully you as you do not stand up to him.

This is bullshit, and you need to leave. He will not improve and may well get worse.

differentnameforthis · 26/05/2020 11:56

*are

Thisisworsethananticpated · 26/05/2020 12:51

I think any human who doesn’t support a partner or friend after such a bereavement , and in such awful circumstances is a bad un
I also think forgiveness is very personal , you don’t have to forgive people actually
You don’t have to move on just because he has
The thought of you crying in the shower is heartbreaking

OP think very very hard here

Please Flowers

PinkMonkeyBird · 26/05/2020 13:04

I agree with PP...he is downright abusive.

This made me laugh saying only I can help turn him into the man he can be so now he puts responsibility onto you to help 'fix' him. No way! He should be holding himself responsible to the 'man' he wants to turn into.

I agree, get a flight as soon as you are able to and get yourself and your kids away from this horrible man.

I'm also sorry for your loss Flowers. It must be so hard being unable to grieve properly while he is around. x

DeeCeeCherry · 26/05/2020 13:07

He was majorly panicking for about a week, before deciding we are great again - begging me to stay and saying only I can help turn him into the man he can be, and he knows he can change and be good for me and we can be happy

You are being tricked. Horrible people know when to turn it off, or nobody would hang around them.

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