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May need to divorce, confused

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AR2013 · 20/05/2020 22:58

I am in a difficult situation now and any suggestion is very much appreciated.

I have been with my H for 10 years and have two kids 6 and 7. We met online and when really met, I felt him responsible and honest so a few months later I moved to his town after graduation. At that time, we were tight on budget and I was new to the city so we chose to live together which is really wrong when looking back. Why? Because we lived together but I did not feel I was ready to have sex with him. In this case, we should have lived separately but we did not. With time went by, we tried to have sex , but each time, I was nervous and felt painful. I didn't have sex before and he did but just a few times. As a result, this kind of situation lasted for a long time. During this time, I found he contacted other girls and being flirty. I confronted him and he said he would not do again. Anyway, we got married bit still had problem having sex. It was not a nice experience for both of us. I was always anxious and he always felt turned down and frustrated. Finally, we made it and then we had children. During my pregnancy, he met other girls and ons a few times. I only found out this a few years later. After I gave birth to the 1st kid, he always blamed me and complained I don't know what he needs and asked to divorce. My parents were around helping me with the baby and they were heart broken. Both my and his parents felt we should not separate esp. the baby was so young so after consideration, we decided to carry on. Then soon I had the baby 2, and life seems to be busier and more stressful. I did not go to work since pregnancy and now it has been 7 years. During these year, he went to meet other girls and also found sex workers. We rarely had sex. I am not keen but I could if he ask for it. But he did not. He even did not look at me when talking to me. For about one year time, he used some very hurting words when talking to me. Nobody had ever talked to me that way in my whole life. I felt sad frustrated and I did not feel being loved. I don't mind working on our telationship but his attitude and behaviour made a barrier in my heart. I felt reluctant and felt he did not deserve it.

Then so many years past. From last year, he started using tinder etc to date and told me he missed so much in his life both on sex and in people interaction and determined to get it back. He believes this is not something he could find in me. I have been looking after kids for 7 years. I feel he look down upon me. I told him I sacrificed for the family and he said I did not have a job so all I could do is to look after the kids. There was no sacrifice.

We will move in August, he said I move with the kids and he want to be alone for some time. Maybe he will come back maybe he will leave. He also said he wanted to divorce. Only by doing this, could he improve himself and be better. The family restrain him from being a new self. He said he could not feel any motivation if staying with me because we did not match. I could not motivate him to be a better self. He also mentioned even if we don't separate, it will be an open marriage.

Now, I am thinking what I should do.

If he wants to divorce, can I have the children? What if he wants both or just one? I love them very much. They both want to be with me.

If I bring up the kids, how much I might get from our assets? He said half but I don't have a job and it's hard to find a job with two kids without some financial support.

They are in private school now. Will they be able to be in private school if my H says no. He did say he could not send them private after divorce.

Life looks hard for me as a single mum with two kids plus no job. I am thinking to to get a job. Any other suggestions are deeply appreciated.

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DoctorHildegardLanstrom · 02/06/2020 02:33

He would like to have open marriage and it's a no from me.

I am going to echo what other people have said if he truly wants an open marriage that is both of you going to find other partners, not just the one.

I would normally say have this conversation but given that he is violent I would get in touch with woman's aid and take all their advice

sergeilavrov · 02/06/2020 03:04

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sergeilavrov · 02/06/2020 03:05

If you are concerned about him taking your eldest son, you can play this as needing to have sole parental responsibility if you live separately so you don’t have to ‘bother him.’ This will take away his right to taking your son, and he cannot remove him from you nor take him outside of the country. You can also consider getting a long-term prohibited steps court order to prevent the child being taken from you.

Aclh13 · 02/06/2020 03:53

You're not compatible end of. Leave with a plan in place and never look back. It can't be healthy for the children to be around such a toxic relationship.

Summerhillsquare · 02/06/2020 07:02

It's not an 'open marriage ' if it's one sided. He wants everything his own way. He's abusive, dominating you and clearly has done for many years. OP, if you can, take some time to work out what your good life would look like. Can you afford a little online therapy? Try searching Welldoing for advice.

AR2013 · 03/06/2020 19:25

@DoctorHildegardLanstrom

He would like to have open marriage and it's a no from me.

I am going to echo what other people have said if he truly wants an open marriage that is both of you going to find other partners, not just the one.

I would normally say have this conversation but given that he is violent I would get in touch with woman's aid and take all their advice

Thanks. I am not the kind of person who accepts open marriage. It's far beyond my world. I think if it needs to open, what's the point of keeping it?

I do need some advise. I am kind of isolated after 7 years as a housewife.

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BumbleBeee69 · 03/06/2020 19:45

I'm sorry to hear this OP.. please when you are able and confident to do so.. seek legal advice.. Flowers

AR2013 · 03/06/2020 19:47

@sergeilavrov

If you are concerned about him taking your eldest son, you can play this as needing to have sole parental responsibility if you live separately so you don’t have to ‘bother him.’ This will take away his right to taking your son, and he cannot remove him from you nor take him outside of the country. You can also consider getting a long-term prohibited steps court order to prevent the child being taken from you.
Thanks sergeilavrov. I am slowing learning what to do and how to do it. We still live in the same house at the momentm. And after a long talk last week, I understand he does not want to divorce because of the children arrangement and sharing of faniance, suggesting he will move to join us after letting out the current house, which may take a few months. During this time, he will still stay in the old house. I told him he is more than welcome to come to see the children but our new house is not the place he should stay over night. He was very angry and said he pays for it why he could not stay? I feel we are in the process of getting divorce so I need my space and have no interest in seeing him unless it's for the kids.

I feel like he still wants to make it his way, he could do what he likes, for example, come to us and stay if he likes or not come if he does not want to.

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AR2013 · 03/06/2020 19:54

@sergeilavrov

If you are concerned about him taking your eldest son, you can play this as needing to have sole parental responsibility if you live separately so you don’t have to ‘bother him.’ This will take away his right to taking your son, and he cannot remove him from you nor take him outside of the country. You can also consider getting a long-term prohibited steps court order to prevent the child being taken from you.
I don't want the kids to lose dad's love though we could not be happy couple. I will try not to make it a sole responsibility unless I have no way out. Plus, he may do something harmful to us if he feels he is losing everything...
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AR2013 · 03/06/2020 19:58

@BumbleBeee69

I'm sorry to hear this OP.. please when you are able and confident to do so.. seek legal advice.. Flowers
Thanks Bumblebeee69, I emailed womensaid and is waiting for the advice.

My biggest concern is the kids. It is a tremendous change for them.

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AR2013 · 03/06/2020 20:07

@Aclh13

You're not compatible end of. Leave with a plan in place and never look back. It can't be healthy for the children to be around such a toxic relationship.
Yes. Now whenever we raise our voice in the house, the kids will rush in the room and say they will protect me.

I told them, mummy and daddy are not happy together but there are so many happy couples in the world. They will find who they love and who also loves them and have happy life. Hope this will help them to stay positive.

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AR2013 · 03/06/2020 20:11

@Summerhillsquare

It's not an 'open marriage ' if it's one sided. He wants everything his own way. He's abusive, dominating you and clearly has done for many years. OP, if you can, take some time to work out what your good life would look like. Can you afford a little online therapy? Try searching Welldoing for advice.
I will have a look at welldoing. Thank you so much.
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