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How to tell difficult in-laws about second pregnancy

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Peaceatlast204 · 09/05/2020 19:41

I’ve posted about my in-law problems on here before and received good advice. I’ve NC because I really don’t want anyone in real life seeing this!

I’ve been with DH for more than 10 years but when we had our DC 18 months ago MIL became unpleasant. Some examples to avoid a later drip feed - ignored me through pregnancy. When friends of hers would talk excitedly about the baby she would change the subject. When baby was born she was intense. I felt intimidated so didn’t challenge it, but she’d take baby into other rooms or into the corner of the room I was in with her back turned to me. She would say she’d come to visit and cook us tea for a treat. The meal never happened and DH eventually went out to the shops so he could cook everyone a meal (baby a month old - I was shattered). Not a big deal at all, but just strange. She just never showed an ounce of interest in how me or DH we’re doing, just wanted to intensely be with DC. DH had a really stressful call with her when she was inviting herself and a friend to visit. He explained that we’d look at our calendar and she was demanding that she should be able to see her grandchild without obstacles etc. Days later she sent me a very arsey text about how they prioritise family. It later transpired that she had sent the text to my DH to ‘proof read’ before sending it to me. That was the lightbulb moment when I realised I had a DH problem. Luckily he had also realised by this point that he had a DM problem, and since that point we’ve been on the same page.

There’s been many more little incidents, and unfortunately it is the kind of relationship which sounds petty unless you get an idea of the many little things she’s done. We went away with them last summer and it was absolutely awful. Long story short - there was a huge screaming match between DH, his DM and aunty about how overbearing they are and that babies aren’t just toys for their pleasure. His mum was saying things like ‘you’ve changed. Who is telling you things like this? We’re not like this in our family’. And I was sat outside the house listening, knowing full well she was insinuating that I manipulate him.

Since that holiday I haven’t seen his parents at all. They’ve come to visit a handful of times to see DC. They often bring gifts for me and I think this is an attempt to make peace. I feel really anxious about seeing them (mainly his mum) and I just don’t know how to take her.

We’re very happily having another baby and it’s approaching the point where DH would like to tell them. Obviously with lockdown all communication would be over video calls. Should I toughen up and be on the call when he tells them? Is it completely weird not to? Inevitably I’ll have to see them when the baby arrives, so should I start easing back into it?

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Wolfgirrl · 09/05/2020 19:59

I feel for you OP. She sounds just like my MIL - obsessed with the babies and tries to sideline the DILs in order to be the 'matriarch'. When I had my daughter, MIL only brought round one meal - and that was frozen pizza that was 'for all of us' so I ended up with one slice.

My advice would be - be on the call. Break the news, and then grab the bull by the horns. Say, 'I feel like things got very out of hand when DS was born, so this is what we would like to make sure everyone is on the same page.' Then lay down the law about visiting and what is expected of her basically.

If she takes it badly, ignore it. If she sends nasty messages, ignore it (and hubby too).

It's a bit like training a dog, you have to be calm, firm and consistent.

Stick to your guns. If she tries to do a surprise visit, don't answer the door. If she promises a meal but arrives empty handed, ask her where the meal is.

I know it is awkward but after a while she will realise that she is not in charge. It worked for me.

Good luck Flowers

OlivejuiceU2 · 09/05/2020 20:04

I don’t think you have to be there particularly with how MIL has behaved towards you. My MIL has never made any real effort with me but doesn’t with anyone to be fair. I didn’t go with DP when he told MIL we are expecting and didn’t end up seeing her in person until I was about 18 weeks.
I’ve got to a point in my life where I don’t not make any effort for people in my life who do not do the same in return.
I’d take a step back and let DH deal with them.

Peaceatlast204 · 09/05/2020 21:09

@Wolfgirrl thank you. Do you have a better relationship with your MIL now? I think that sounds like a good idea. I’m imagining that she’ll dominate the conversation and I’ll feel intimidated but there’s no reason why me and DH can’t practise being strong and direct.

@OlivejuiceU2 thank you. I’m always reassured to hear that other people don’t think she’s behaved normally! I just worry if I don’t speak to her soon then the first time will be when I have a new baby...and with hormones raging I’ll be an even more anxious mess!

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SandyY2K · 09/05/2020 21:16

If it was me, I'd leave him to tell her however he wants...call, text or videocall.

I really don't see this as some sort of ceremony requiring full attendance.

billy1966 · 09/05/2020 22:19

OP, I feel for you, that sounds so awful.

I think you really do know who she is, she has shown you.

Best not waste 20 years dancing to her toon and then regretting it.

You know she is a freak.
Move on.
Leave her to your DP.
Detach.
And focus on this happy time for you.

I spent my 20's trying to satisfy and keep lots of people happy around me.

The sudden death of someone I adored changed everthing for me.

I stepped back from fixing and trying to make those around me happy.

It was very difficult for them.

Not for me.

I have thrived.

My goal now with my children has been that they are do not waste their time overly accommodating anyone.

You are wasting precious years accommodating her and others.

Enjoy your babies, time flies.

I have never regretted one moment of not being a people pleaser....I have massively regretted the years I was..👍

Wolfgirrl · 09/05/2020 22:28

Not really OP but it was never going to be iyswim.

The difference is I am the one in control, not her.

You need to treat her a bit like a child, she can tantrum all she likes but she isnt getting her own way. I know it's awkward to start with but it gets so much easier and you wont dread seeing her any more.

EmbarrassedWoman · 10/05/2020 02:00

I have a horrendous mil. Just evil.
When i fell pregnant with dc3- my dhs dc2- we waited until 20 weeks to tell her on the pretence of waiting to find out the sex.
Dh did it alone with the two dc.
I saw her once when she visited to meet dc3 and the next time i made myself busy. Then lockdown happened. After lockdown dh will be going back to doing visits alone.

They are not worth me losing my sanity so i refused to have any meaningful contact as it always come with some form of manipulation.

justilou1 · 10/05/2020 04:00

Honestly? I think you’ve given her what she bloody wanted. Unrestrained access time your kid without YOU. If you’re not there to interfere, your rules and feelings don’t apply. Stop that at once as soon as lockdown is over and see how much she dislikes you being back in the picture! She likes you not existing at all.
Yes, your DH probably should tell his mummy that you’re pregnant again, (but you should be listening in). He should then tell her the new reality, that he has enjoyed the whole family experience that includes you and DD and is not going to have you being excluded from his inner circle anymore. (You might need to draw the “rings of emotional priority” for him, and maybe get him to show his mum where she fits in.) Will be interesting to see if she can bring herself to congratulate you like a nice person or make it all about her again.

Gobbycop · 10/05/2020 05:46

I'd be blunt but I am anyway.

Announce the news then tell her in no uncertain terms that you're the one calling the shots about who sees the baby and when.
You're the mother not her.

Peaceatlast204 · 10/05/2020 09:07

I know I’ve given her what she wanted but I put my own happiness higher than that.

I also struggle because I don’t think she’s evil. I just think she’s a really sad woman who desperately wanted to have daughters (she has said how devastated she was to have 2 sons) and who would be really happy if I had needed her/admired her/doted on her. But I just can’t bring myself to do that because being such a victim repulses me. I wish I was a bigger person and I could act and make her happy, even though I know she’s a deeply flawed person for needing that.

So that’s why I struggle with any really hard line cutting off. I almost wish she would be evil so I could justify it! But she never quite crosses the line and is instead subtle.

I am more inclined to think I should change my attitude though and involve myself again. More to be sure that when no.2 baby is born we don’t have a repeat of any of last time’s drama. @justilou1 I’m also very intrigued to see her reaction and whether she can manage a congratulations.

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Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 10/05/2020 11:02

OP ..having read your post regardless of anything else you are having this woman ruin your life. She i ssilently dictating,demanding,putting you in a position where you are so unsure of yourself you are asking strangers on social media how to handle life. This should be a happy time for you but itsnot and you know that and its out of fear of how she will react to your news.As i see it until you tackle the issues you have with her she will dominate your head space forever..you will be upset and over thinking how you live your life and make decisions based on what her input will be . Until you sort this you will have no peace of mind for yourself and no freedom to unquestionably make decisions and live your life doing as you please.Her attitude and behaviour and the what if she does this and what if she says this are more damaging than anything to you.What if she carries on What if she lays down ridiculous rules and demands? What if she upsets you again?She can only dothese things if you let her.You as a wife and mother do not need to ustify yourself to anyone else.You are in charge and you need to be clear to her on any amount of input you are willing to ALLOW her.Regain control of this relationship or it will blight your life forever and you will be back here asking and trying to fathom her and her motives out in 10years time.It is no way for you to live. I hope you dont take it the wrong way I dont mean to upset you at all but what ever you are thinking its damaging you SHE is damaging you and its not fair to YOU. I wish you well.Please stop letting this woman dominate your life.She takes up too much head space and you dont need it.You should be so happy right now and you have so much to look forward to with a new baby coming you deserve to be happy not in turmoil over how she is going to be.She will act how she wishes without a thought for you.But only if you allow it. She has the confidence to treat you like crap but only because she has been allowed to do it.

HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 10/05/2020 11:44

My MIL was exactly the same with my first DC, so overbearing it ruined my first few months as a mum. She was the opposite with second and refused to hold them or interact and was still overbearing with my first. It's got better as the kids have got older and she's settled into the GM role - pick your battles, try and get second opinion as i found everything wound me up even when she was being too awful and Co tinue NC/LC if required. I don't think you particularly need to be there for the announcement but just be clear on your boundaries this time. We found we actually asked her to have our first DC a few times to keep her out of the way.

Peaceatlast204 · 10/05/2020 20:50

Thank you for the replies. You’ve all given me lots to think about and it’s always interesting hearing about similar experiences and how they’ve been managed.

I know I give her too much of my head space but I really struggle not to. I have that horrible feeling of being a bad person for someone to be so upset around me.

I just need to plan a clear role for myself (how much contact to have, if any, with them) and then stick to it and stop overthinking.

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HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 10/05/2020 21:15

You are your DC mummy and they will both adore you. That's all you need to concentrate on - grandparents can play an important role in children's lives but only if that is a positive interaction. You hold all the cards here. Remember that.

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