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I feel like I'm going crazy, was this emotional abuse or did I over react?

45 replies

StarUnicorn · 08/05/2020 16:06

I (32f) left my partner (45m) a few months ago, after a year and a half. There was some serious love bombing in the beginning, which I ignored as a red flag because it was so nice to find a man who wanted a relationship (working on my self esteem!) He wasn't even two months out of his previous relationship which he declared he was heartbroken over. He talked alot about his previous partner for the first few months, which I feel I was very understanding about, until he went into therapy. He also once told me that he was 'looking for perfect and he might never find it', I mean who says that to their girlfriend!!?

Below are four of the main reasons why I left.

1- About 7 months into the relationship he told me he wasn’t sure he could stay with me if I didn’t lose weight. I put on about 5 or 6 pounds of honeymoon weight. I thought he just wanted me to lose the weight I’d put on since being in the relationship, but it transpired he wanted me to weigh less than when we first met. I struggled hugely with this as I felt he didnt love me for me and I was scared that in the future he would leave me if I got sick/old/less attractive. I just couldn’t get past those feelings. When he told me this he said he had been struggling with it for months and had even discussed it with his mum. I felt so embarrassed and humiliated.

2- He didnt like the way i dressed. Apparently i dressed like an ‘aunt’ (frumpy I assume he meant) Obviously he was entitled to his opinion, the issue was that he was very vocal when i wore something he didnt like and would expect me to stop wearing it even if i liked it because “that’s what people in relationships do for each other”. He would look me up and down before leaving the house and it made me feel so self conscious. I did try to make some changes to the way I dressed, but it was never 'good enough'. No one else has ever questioned my fashion choices.

3- He liked massive amounts of contact either via text or calls. I’d been single or a while before we met and was used to being independent. I tried really hard to get into relationship mode and remember to text when I was leaving work etc, but it was never enough. For example if I was with a friend for the evening and I didnt reply within a certain amount of time I would get texts like ‘not feeling the love’, but always with a lol or an emoji. At the start of the relationship if I wanted an evening alone he would say things like ‘dont you want to see me’, until I gave in and saw him. He would call me all the time, I remember once he called me six times before mid day when I had gone back to my house for the night.

4- He would throw tantrums if I said I didnt feel like having sex. I declined three times I think in the whole relationship. It was upsetting and when I tried to explain to him how it made me feel he would say ‘I know it’s wrong I dont need you to tell me’. We had really great sex at first, but i struggled after he told me to lose weight and made comments about my clothes because i didnt feel desirable.

There was obviously more to the above points but it would be too long! There were other smaller issues as well such as not respecting my requests for privacy while in the bath, he would just walk in and talk at me.

OP posts:
Windmillwhirl · 08/05/2020 18:30

Any one of them would have made me leave. Together, no question you did the right thing.

Tigersneeze · 08/05/2020 18:38

didn't even need to read further than the weight comment - that's so completely not on, don't spend another second worrying about that awful man. good riddance, enjoy life!

Saucy99 · 08/05/2020 18:42

@GilbertMarkham
I assume that applies to 40-something women too?

BackseatCookers · 08/05/2020 21:28

Just wanted to add that the reason I feel like I'm going mad is that there are none of the 'normal' warning signs.

He IS a giant warning sign!!

You seem worried you have overreacted when you've actually under reacted completely.

Well done for getting out, he's a nasty piece of work.

Emojis don't negate saying a shitty mean thing, don't let anyone like him try and gaslight you into thinking otherwise.

Ugh he sounds awful, I'm so glad you're out of it.

welshladywhois40 · 08/05/2020 21:33

Whether you want to put a label on it or not - it's not a healthy relationship. My ex husband was similar when we met (not the weight though - he was happier if I was bigger).

Towards the end he made my life very hard, so the nights out with friends - I would get so many calls and you must stay in touch and I had to text him constantly or he would worry.

Then he made my life difficult if I wanted to se friends.

It's all control and it's suffocating stuff. My new partner is happy when I see my friends. That is normal.

category12 · 08/05/2020 22:04

You were right to leave. Classic emotional abuse.

sonjadog · 08/05/2020 22:07

What a horrible man. Each of those reasons alone is enough to end a relationship. You didn't overreact. I find it a bit worrying that you might have any doubt about that.

Sadiesnakes · 08/05/2020 22:15

I assume that applies to 40-something women too?*

Hmm Yay! The double standards crew have arrived...

MrsMozartMkII · 08/05/2020 22:17

That is not a nice person to have around.

Well done on getting out of it lass.

NoMoreDickheads · 09/05/2020 00:59

Well done for getting rid of him, sounds like a right wanker.

OldWomanSaysThis · 09/05/2020 01:25

I hope in these moments, you found your anger.

Those comments - omg - to him: "Who the actual fuck are you?"

famousforwrongreason · 09/05/2020 01:31

What a cunt. Sorry he was so horrible to you. I went out with a guy like this after I split from my husband. He was a vile bully. As a pp said, single men 40+ aren't always the best. I say this as a single nearly fifty woman so I feel a bit of a hypocrite, but my experience of dating after divorce has been pretty grim on the whole. I'm having a big break from it until I have a real understanding of why I keep ignoring or minimising red flag behavior.
Look after yourself x

Starksforthewin · 09/05/2020 01:39

He sounds like an utter waste of space. Well done for getting rid, you are worth ten of him. What a fucking loser, hope he enjoys his nights in with his mother....

user1481840227 · 09/05/2020 04:30

You might not have seen jealousy because he went about things in a different way than other jealous guys.
He made you feel like shit about yourself and that you weren't attractive. That's a common enough thing for a jealous guy to do, it's just a different tactic.

Likewise he didn't check your phone but constantly checked on you in other ways, always contacting you to see where you are, it's a different way of keeping tabs, and making sure you're not doing anything wrong than checking your phone, it's just different tactic though!!
If you didn't respond to him for a long period of time I bet he would have been itching to get his hands on your phone to check it!!

If you get confused about red flags in future and don't think a guy is displaying typical red flags, then perhaps think about how his behaviour makes you feel instead!!! and what may you act in respond to it!

Then you will see that a lot of these guys will have the same effect on women even though they use different tactics!

Honeybee85 · 09/05/2020 04:35

He sounds very disrespectful and misogenystic. I don't want to be harsh but OP, I believe you still have a lot of work to do on your self esteem. He humiliated you and was controlling and yet you doubt if it was it was emotional abuse. It very clearly was and you really deserve better! You need to learn to establish boundaries for yourself and trust your own instincts.
I think therapy could really help you with this.

GilbertMarkham · 09/05/2020 08:41

I assume that applies to 40-something women too?

Not in my experience.

I think there are more maladjusted men than women.

Cheating, porn addiction, sleaze, selfishness, not stepping up as a parent, seeing a partner as a domestic (and sex) appliance, issues communicating etc. seem to more common among males. It's also commonly acknowledged that sociopathy and psychopathy are more common among males.

Single females tend to have be victims of the above.

Males and females are not exactly the same. If they were, for example, it wouldn't be the case that the vast vast majority of perpetrators of violent and sex crimes are male. That's partly nurture but it's also most definitely nature.

So no - would be my answer.

GilbertMarkham · 09/05/2020 08:48

Also when it comes to controlling behaviour like the above - while there are certainly women who act like that - if I count the women I've heard of who acted like that Vs the men .. I can think of 1, at an absolute push 2. If I think of men, I'm up to 10 without even trying and that's not even counting this forum. They tend to be far more prone to what I'd consider "mate guarding" gone wrong.

He'd also objectifying her and treating her like a human doll (weight and looks wise), again that seems to be more common among males. At the extreme end of that, I have yet to see documentaries about middle aged ladies and their "relationships" with life-like sex dolls, I've seen a few about men though. It's also much much more common for men to buy sex, which to me is rather like treating someone like a live sex doll.

GilbertMarkham · 09/05/2020 08:51

(And if you don't think that's how buying sex is most of the time, have a look at the prostitute reviews by men on UK punting or similar - the women really may as well be sex dolls).

Disfordarkchocolate · 09/05/2020 08:52

Just remember that you don't need and excuse or a reason to break up with someone. You don't need a list of red flags or things that happened to justify breaking up.

GilbertMarkham · 09/05/2020 10:00

The sexual coercion, non violent as it may be, alongside the "be a good dolly and be the weight that I want (which is less than what when I got into a relationship with you) and wear what I want you to wear" ... Alongside the "your time is mine, your attention should be on me" all suggests quite a high degree of female objectification with this guy.

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