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Toxic Family

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Bekiboom · 06/05/2020 15:17

So, this is my first post about this issue and may be a long one. I apologise in advance for that. It has recently come to my attention that I have a toxic family. Especially my mother. A minute and a half phone call today shattered my good mood into pieces. My 3 year old has had an upset tummy for a few days showing in his nappies so when I called asking if we would visit tomorrow, she heard him in the bath. When I explained why, I was told he shouldn't be in the bath, he should be outside because it is a nice day and also it will be because I am obviously feeding him s**t food (freezer food-which by the way I was raised on predominantly and my son gets a mix of home cooked meals and freezer food). Something like this happens everytime we speak, I get constant criticism no matter how hard I try. My sons father and I have had a rough time of it, with many issues between ourselves and if I'm honest my family contributed to a lot of our fights too. Whenever we decide to make another go of it, I get a torrent of abuse and criticism even being called a terrible mother putting my son through all this messing around. Granted I don't agree with the way a lot of it has been handled but my son adores having his family together. I am dreading the conversation of letting them know my sons dad and I are speaking again because it won't conform to what they want. They will constantly ask "why are you doing this to us?" and I say its not about you but it never changes anything. My sister also has these tendencies but she will go from being my best friend and we talk about everything including how my parents do the same to her, but then she will turn and attack me or tell my parents what I have said with no warning and it will all blow up. I feel like as much as I love my son and would never wish him away...ever! He has become the worst thing I could have done for mine and my families relationships. They demand about him all the time, when they will see him or what clubs or events he does or what I should be doing with him and if I disagree with any of it they make my life miserable until I give in. They also have this insane obsession with what they can have more than his fathers side of the family. They have commanded every Christmas at their house and my sons birthday is coming up and a family member asked what we would be doing for it with the lockdown and my mum without even asking me said there would be a party at her house. They try and discount my sons dads family constantly and refuse to even listen to any points i make about anything. I am constantly put down by them and I genuinely feel like i cant make a decision without their approval because the backlash will simply not be worth having my own voice. Also, my mother especially is fixated on my sister, anything she does wrong is likely somehow my fault and she will ring her every day to check in and see how she is but will only speak to me to get through to my son. I lost my best friend a couple of weeks ago and not one member of my family has bothered to check in and see how I am coping. I have barely seen or heard from them other than to get constant grief.
Has anyone been in a similar situation? What do I do?

Just as a last note they are not bad parents, they do a lot of wonderful things and financially have always been there, and will always give advice. It just changes every so often to this unbelievably painful experience usually when I choose to do something they don't agree with, such as give my little family another chance or put feelers out for a career they don't agree with or disagree with them on a matter about my son or say anything at all that could be taken negatively about my sister.

OP posts:
JKScot4 · 06/05/2020 16:41

I can't reduce contact or keep things from them because then it all gets worse believe it or not. I was never raised to be a disgusting liar or I should never disrespect my parents by hiding things or how dare I use my son as a weapon by only letting them see him for what I deem good behaviour on their part
Is this serious or sarcasm??
You CAN do anything you want, your parents do not own you.
Why are you visiting during lockdown?
Reduce contact
Being your parents does not automatically entitle them to know about your life, I’m 15 years NC and have no regrets.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/05/2020 16:44

Toxic parents can often use financial means as a way of having further control. They were not bad parents OP, they were and remain bloody awful parents who have in turn failed you, and for that matter too your sister, abjectly.

People from dysfunctional families end up playing roles; what are your roles here?. And theirs?

These people were not good parents to you when you were growing up and have not changed in all that time. A good rule of thumb here is that if they are too toxic/difficult/batshit for YOU to deal with, its the same deal for your child too. Keep him well away from all your family of origin.

Having read your initial post I would advise you to lower all forms of contact now to a point of zero. Gradually start to properly fade away from their lives, with any luck they will then turn on each other. Do read "Toxic Parents" by Susan Forward, have a read of the Out of the FOG website and post too on the "well we took you to Stately Homes" thread on these pages. You can write as much or as little as you like.

SeaEagleFeather · 06/05/2020 20:12

Just as a last note they are not bad parents

I'm afraid you are mistaken, lovely. You are being absolutely controlled and at times, abused.

If your friends who know you and love you for who you are all hate your family of origin - well, it's not a coincidence. You're in the middle of the situation but they are outside and can see what's going on far more clearly than you right now. If you do manage to step away, which is an intensely painful process, gradually you'll see things in a new and much more clear headed way.

Nothing, but nothing in life is worth walking on eggshells and being controlled. Nothing.

Also, I think you need to protect your son here. This behaviour is appalling and is far from healthy for him.

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