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AIBU to leave him asap?

22 replies

lonelychip · 19/04/2020 12:01

Not sure where to begin…but if I have to point to an exact time when it all started happening, then I will point to almost 4 years ago when our DS was born.
Our DS was 6 weeks premature so we had to stay in the hospital for 2 weeks. I guess, that’s where it all started. DH refused to change DS’s nappy saying that he will do it once we go home. I had stitches down there and in total pain but he didn’t offer any help. I was battling post delivery blues along with pain down there but there was no help from DH. We used to have arguments in the hospital and he used to complain how tired he was but never understood how I felt and how I tired I was. I was literally doing everything - looking after DS and expressing milk while he slept. Anyway, when ever I complained, all he said was that I was kicking off a fuss and always wanting to fight with him. He used to go home during the day time saying that he will do the washing etc but just go sleep and disappear for an entire day. I used to end up talking to doctors and nurses about the progress of DS.

Once we came home, he went back to work. He works full time - trust me, he never helped me with anything. My parents were helping with food, cleaning, washing etc but I was looking after my DS day and night without any rest. DH used to wake up at 5 in the morning and look after till 6 or 6: 30. Thats it. Even then he used moan how is not able to sleep properly (he has moved into the guest bedroom so I wonder why he was still tired). Anyway we didn’t sleep in the same room until DS turned 8 months. DH wanted to stay away for longer but again we had an argument which he won. During this period when ever I said that I was tired, he just used to make face and say that I am always complaining.

DS was in our room in a separate cot until he turned one but I ended up looking after him most of the time. If he didn’t g to sleep straight after the feed, it was always my fault (according to DH).

Moving forward, I went back to work, the relationship just deteriorated. There was no ‘us’ time, whenever I said that we should get a baby sitter and go for date nights, he used to say we don’t have money for that sort of thing, yet we continued to get take aways - we do have money for date nights, we both work in the city. He was just not keen on it.

It all began at the same time - he criticises me for each and everything - why is something not Clean, why haven’t you kept this thing in it’s place etc. He never praised me for anything. He never told me that I was a good person, that I was beautiful, that he loves me. We haven’t had sex since I got pregnant, he never hugs me or says I love. We don’t even talk to each other unless it’s about our house or DS. He always takes all the decisions.He wants everything in our house, his way. I feel like I live in someone's house, not mine. My choices and preferences are always brushed under the carpet. I am not someone who can sit quietly and take it, so I fight back and then few things happen my way but I am so tired of fighting. Basically I am lonely in this relationship.

Anyway, 2 years ago, my health started deteriorating because of all this. I was diagnosed with severe anxiety and mild depression (no meds needed). DH didn’t give a F about this information, his attitude continued to be the same - not helping at all and criticising me. I just thought that enough is enough and I asked him for a divorce. He went through the phases for anger, ridicule, threatening saying that I will bring shame to families and then cried. I succumbed to it. We talked and discussed what needs to bet changed. I told him everything. There was a little change - he started contributing and helping me with house work but that’s it. No contribution towards rebuilding the relationship. He assumed that if we are not fighting then all is good. I explained to him that it’s not how the relationships work and told him that we need to go on dates, spend some quality time together just for us.

I did what I could - arranging dates, trying to do things for him. It’s been two years now. We are still the same. No love, no talk, no sex, no empathy. He refuses to divorce me but also he doesn’t love me. I feel stuck. My mental health is getting worse. I keep giving him chances. I feel like I need someone in my life who could love me. I can financially manage on my own even if we separate, I just keep getting worried about my son who is so young. Not sure what to do. I feel dead inside and I know that I can never love him again.

I had suggested relationship counselling so many times but he never agreed. Finally 2 months ago, he agreed after I said that this time I will leave for sure but then covid happened and we all are stuck at home.

I want some help to understand if all men are like this or is it my special situation. Sometimes I question myself and think - am I expecting too much. I am 36 and I got married when I was 25. I don't know! I don't know anything anymore. I am really sad so posting it all here.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/04/2020 12:15

No, not all men are like this at all but your relationship is an abusive relationship. Abusive men often show their true colours when pregnancy and birth occur. He likely ramped up the power and control antes against you when you were pregnant and he indeed argued with you in the hospital. This was really well and truly over at that point.

Your son should not be raised in such a toxic environment; he is watching and observing his father abuse you as his mother. Its no life for him either and you would not want your son as an adult to treat his spouse like you are. What do you want to teach him about relationships and what is he learning here?

He cannot refuse you a divorce and he talking to you also about bringing shame upon the families is itself disgraceful and shameful. If anyone should feel shame here it is he but he will never do that, preferring instead to blame you. Such men hate women all of them.

I would urge you to seek legal advice and also read the sticky thread at the top of these Relationships pages. Leaving under lockdown can be done here; you would not get into trouble for doing so.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/04/2020 12:23

Joint relationship counselling also is never recommended if there is abuse of any type within the relationship. You are actually not safe to be jointly counselled and no decent counsellor would ever want to see the two of you in joint counselling. He would try and manipulate the counsellor into seeing his side and making it all out to be your fault.

Blackandgreenteas · 19/04/2020 12:34

He sounds exactly like my exh. Except exh always still wanted sex no matter how nasty he was being. I stayed with him far too long - even had another child who I obviously wouldn’t be without.

Once someone has behaved like that in your hour of greatest need - when you should be pulling together with everything you have- there’s no coming back imo.

Blackandgreenteas · 19/04/2020 12:36

Oh and we did go to counselling and he did manipulate the counsellor.

springydaff · 19/04/2020 12:51

This is black and white obvious - leave him. He is a shit, apart from everything else. Revolting.

Gobbycop · 19/04/2020 12:53

No in short, he sounds utterly useless as a father and husband.

Why bother flogging a dead horse.

managinged · 19/04/2020 13:30

Start planning for a separation and divorce. When the lockdown is over hire a solicitor. You've already given him plenty of chances. Don't waste any more years on him. If you try to "stay for the sake of our child" you will be making a mistake because he will grow up watching an unhappy marriage (tension, fighting, father's lack of respect for mother).

Ilovethekittehs · 19/04/2020 13:38

Leave.

glitterfarts · 19/04/2020 13:45

You earn your own money and already do everything. So just leave him. It will be easier to be not dealing with his emotional abuse daily and you'll actually get a break sometimes if he bothers to see his child semi regularly.
I'd leave now, before your child is older, before they're in school. Get it sorted and you both settled.
Divorce for unreasonable behaviour, no sex for 4 years counts. All his behaviour you listed counts.
You may find your anxiety and depression goes when the DH goes. D for dickhead.

Is the house rented or mortgaged and whose name is it in?

hesgotit · 19/04/2020 16:06

Leave him, this is no relationship.

SandyY2K · 19/04/2020 16:37

He's not interested in your happiness. Make plans to leave.

You don't need his permission for a divorce.

lonelychip · 19/04/2020 16:46

Thanks a lot for all the replies, it makes me feel better that we all are on the same page. It is definitely emotional abuse. Even when I tell him that I am unwell, he just doesn't care.

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lonelychip · 19/04/2020 16:47

@glitterfarts our house is mortgaged.

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lonelychip · 19/04/2020 16:52

@managinged I did see a lawyer couple of years ago, only then DH realised that I was serious. It didn't change anything though. He keeps telling me that I will become poor if I divorce . Even though the lawyer said that I will be fine, based on my earnings and expenditure. I agree with you, I will initiate the process as soon as we are out of lockdown. I wasted a lot of time already. I was just scared but my deteriorating mental and physical health is telling me to take an action.

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HavenDilemma · 19/04/2020 17:04

From the tone of your OP and a couple of things you've mentioned resonate with me. Do you mind if I ask if you are in an arranged marriage?

Apologies if I've got it wrong

Holothane · 19/04/2020 17:16

Shocking, get docs in order and leave as soon as you can hugs.

strawberry2017 · 19/04/2020 17:32

What's the house situation in terms of owning, renting? Joint or single?
Nothing to stop you making online plans now.
He might refuse to divorce you but he can't refuse forever.
He's an absolute arse and you will feel a so much better when he's gone.
He will be 100% the reason you feel the way you do.
You and your DS will be so much happier when the negative black cloud is gone.
X

lonelychip · 19/04/2020 17:59

@HavenDilemma it's kind of a modern day arranged marriage. No force from parents. We met on a marriage site, spoke to each other for couple of months, met a few times... that's it. We never lived together or slept together before getting married. Only when we agreed to get married, parents were brought into picture. Before getting married I was living somewhere where living together before marriage was unacceptable

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lonelychip · 19/04/2020 18:01

@strawberry2017 thank you for your supportive message, we share a house that we own jointly. We pay mortgage for it jointly. Yes, making online plans seems like a good idea...

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HavenDilemma · 19/04/2020 18:05

@lonelychip Ah ok. May I ask, are you of Asian descent? The only reason I’m asking is to ascertain if there are cultural differences?
If so, I think it’s relevant to mention. It ABSOLUTELY does not justify any Kind of emotional abuse, however.

Please do call Women’s Aid. They are unbelievably supportive and can actually help you in many ways, including legally.

I’ve been where you are (Neither of us a different culture) and I couldn’t have done it without Women’s Aid Flowers

Needtogetbackinthesack · 19/04/2020 18:07

I could have written this nearly word for word. I left and as part of the divorce can see condom purchases from pharmacies on his bank statements, he's admitted in court to being a drug user, Rena of thousands of pounds worth of porn.

Run.

Needtogetbackinthesack · 19/04/2020 18:07

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