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Why does he turn it on me

38 replies

Justtryyourhardest · 05/04/2020 09:29

My boyfriend of 2 years and I don’t have kids together but each have kids from previous relationships. I ended it with my kids dad around 3 years ago after being with him for a very longtime, we had settled down in our early 20s and had drifted apart and become different people towards the end of our relationship (in our 30s). I ended it and despite me hurting him, we have always agreed to stay civil for our children’s sakes. He sees them every other weekend and once during the week.

My boyfriend sees his child every other weekend. He was with his child’s mum for around 5 years and broke up with her around 4 years ago. It was a really messy breakup as she was apparently cheated on him and stole from him. They don’t talk and all arrangements to do with the child is done through the grandparents.

Around a week ago, my boyfriend told me that he was going to contact his ex directly to ask if he could add his child on his games console so he could talk to the child more often (he’s not getting to see child as often at the moment because of coronavirus). I said that was a good idea. I didn’t hear anymore about it that day until we were lying in bed that night and his phones message notification when off at 2am. Me, thinking there was something wrong, asked who it was. When he checked it, I was next to him so I could see, he said it was his ex. I asked why she was messaging so late at night and he said she was just chatting. I askedwhat they were chatting about at that time of the morning and he got really weird about it which made me get suspicious so he showed me the messages and they were having a real laugh and being quite flirty and sending loads of kisses in each message. I got upset and he told me I was being stupid as he was only doing it as he hadn’t spoken to her in years . We argued and eventually made up the next day, I explained why I was upset at him sending her flirty kissy messages and he apologised and said he didn’t realise how they were coming across.

Yesterday, early hours of the morning, I caught a glimpse of his phone as he was messaging someone 😍. I asked who he was sending that to at 1am and he admitted it as her. I got really angry and asked why he was giving her these come on signals (his mum told me a couple of weeks ago that his ex was still in love with him) and he told me he’d do whatever it took to keep in touch with his child and that I was a hypercritical c@@t because my I talk to my ex. I tried to explain I have no problem him being in touch with her but it should be about his child rather than messaging her about (in his word) private jokes from years back and flirting with her. My ex and I literally only have contact to do with him he kids. My boyfriend got so mad at me, he even asked what I wanted to do about us as I have such a problem with him contacting her. We argued for the rest of the night and this morning, he’s immediately told me he’s doing nothing wrong, that that’s just the way he talks to all his friends and family and that I’m selfish.
I’ve spent most of this morning in floods of tears because he’s making me feel so bad

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HollowTalk · 05/04/2020 12:39

If he'd called me that name I would have had him out of that bed and his bags packed.

HollowTalk · 05/04/2020 12:40

He's massively unreasonable. Imagine his reaction if you were sending your ex affectionate messages in the middle of the night?

And his ex will love the fact that he's in bed with you but messaging her. She'll absolutely love it.

RLEOM · 05/04/2020 14:02

The fact he's gas lighting you over this says it all. He knows he's in the wrong yet is turning ut round on you.

You're definitely in the way of him getting what he wants. You deserve so much more than being second best.

MashedSpud · 05/04/2020 14:05

Dump his arse.

RainWoman19 · 05/04/2020 14:27

Gaslighting and manipulating your feelings, been there done that. Its hard to understand and you start to question your own feelings because your emotions cloud your judgement. You already know why hes turning it on you, its called guilt.

Oldraver · 05/04/2020 15:22

He's guilty of flirting and talking behind your back

Nope, the twatbadger had the audacity to do it while he is laying in bed next to the OP

OP...Youv'e made it clear how you feel about this and he has ignored your feelings and continued.

He deserves to be sent back to her, or anywhere away form you

Justtryyourhardest · 08/04/2020 14:40

He’s since apologised and said he could see where I was coming from. He then had a couple of beers a couple of nights ago and brought it up saying that it’s all my fault that he’s not getting to talk to his child (which is pretty standard as they don’t talk in between him seeing his child so it’s no different to normal to be honest). I said the other day you apologised and now you’re telling me it’s my fault, he said he only said sorry to shut me up. He apologised the next day. He hasn’t been in touch with her since the other night and he’s been very lovey dovey with me, all day telling me how special I am and how much he loves me more than anyone in the world.
Then, today, my kids dad FaceTimed them as he’s not seen them for three weeks and won’t be seeing them for around another nine or ten weeks due to isolation. All I did was answer the phone and hand it to my kids and took it back when they had finished talking.my ex told me he was going to transfer some money to me so the kids could buy something for Easter. The conversation lasted for all of a minute...my boyfriend immediately started saying that I talk to my ex every day, that I’ve got it easy because my kids live with me so I have no idea how it feels. I told him to contact his ex but keep it about his kid and to not send flirty, jokey, kissy messages and he again said that’s how he talks to all his friend. He said it’s my fault he’s had no contact with his kid, I told him that’s not fair and he immediately calmed down and said he was sorry and it’s not my fault.
My heads so mixed up- I don’t want to breakup with him but this situation is messing with my head...on one hand, I feel guilty because of his kid and on the other hand, I feel sick with worry every time his message tone goes because I don’t want him flirting with her.

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Windyatthebeach · 08/04/2020 14:44

Your situation is similar to how my life was once.
My now exh had great resentment that I had my dc ft and he hardly saw his. His ex flirting and trying to get him back... No return messages that I ever saw though..
That resentment grew and grew until I caught him out in a big financial lie and I threw him out...
The best day was knowing his ex and the dc were out of my life...
Ime you have no choice but to put YOUR mental health /welfare first and get rid of him.
Ime it will only get worse..

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/04/2020 14:52

Why do you not want to break up with him?. Is your relationship bar really this low that you have and will continue to be taken for a mug by him?. You deserve better but sadly you do not truly believe this for yourself.

FlowerArranger · 08/04/2020 17:44

My heads so mixed up- I don’t want to breakup with him but this situation is messing with my head

Of course your head is all over the place. He has perfected his strategy of mindfuckery and you are falling for his game of calling you vile names, blaming you, apologising, playing lovey-dovy, more name-calling followed by more blame, et cetera and so on.

I expect you don't want to break up with him because you have this vision of what he'd be like if only he stopped doing this or that, and tihen you'd be a perfect little family. Surely you must realise by now that this is a pipedream. He is who he is. He is not and never will be who you want him to be.

Techway · 08/04/2020 19:17

He is toxic and your head is messed up because of him. You know the truth yet he is getting you to doubt yourself. You are justifying your behaviour despite knowing he is in the wrong. He is using the nice/nasty cycle which is designed to keep you unsure of yourself.

Many of us have been there, we know the signs. It will get worse and won't just be about this issue, he will find ways to punish you. You may ask why, you may try to rationalise why he acts as he does but there is no point.. this is how he handles his negative emotions.

Just be grateful you are not married and that he showed his behaviour before you were committed.

Robin233 · 08/04/2020 19:41

If this is new behaviour there is an awful lot of people acting irrationally in the present climate.
I would advise you to avoid any knee jerk reaction at the moment.

Sha33le · 09/04/2020 08:46

If he feels your response to his behaviour is unreasonable, bear in mind at the moment you are maybe isolated and he’s probably at home more than not, how are you going to feel when he is out of the house more than he is at home? You will constantly be worrying about the contact then , it could escalate into telephone calls and meet ups maybe.

You have to get the assurance from him that he admits what he’s doing is unacceptable, if he can’t do this for you, then you shouldn’t be with him
Sorry

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