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vitdvitc · 15/03/2020 09:22

I was married over 20 years. 3 kids now in their teens. H is an alcoholic. He's also a really bad liar. In the 20 years he's shown himself to be a bit of a womaniser. Flirty in front of my face, hitting on friends, lying about his drinking, the list goes on. It all made me feel fairly worthless.

I eventually asked him to leave to give myself and kids some thinking space when his drinking was at an all time high, he did.

In the first three months of him leaving, he had numerous affairs with women. I only found out because while he was declaring how much he wanted us all back, I looked at his phone and found everything there. Conversations with these women telling them that I was bat shit crazy etc etc.
But should I even have the right to be hurt by this? I asked him to leave after all.

I was doing well while he wasn't here. Lost loads of weight, got fit, my career took off, had counselling, made holiday plans etc and generally felt stronger until Christmas when it all came crashing down.

He was drinking so much that he literally would have died in a few months if he'd kept going. He pleaded with me to help. I got him help, he stopped drinking, started attending AA.......I went to Al-anon ( fking awful experience) and slowly but surely I started to allow him into my life again. He'd stay over several nights with me, it was ok. But in the back of my mind , I just couldn't get over all of the lies he'd told about other women. So many lies. Right up until this week while he was in a sober state . He literally left this marriage and started shagging.

So yesterday, feeling a bit angry that he'd lied again about another woman he'd had sex with I asked him to leave and told him that I couldn't see a future because there is no trust. I can't get past images of him with other women. It was breaking my heart. I look at him and see some creepy, slimey, desperate old drunk.

Yet I miss him. Im worried about him. I'm scared on my own. I know my future could be really exciting away from him but it scares me. But a future with him will be full of insecurities and lies and so toxic.

He left my house and as far as I can tell, started drinking again. I just feel so shit. But this is what he wants isn't it?

Do I go NC? Is the freedom programme worth doing? How do I keep up the strength to keep away from him?

Looking back, our marriage was awful. Full of lies, physical and emotional abuse, drink....god, it was just terrible but why am I sitting here feeling so worn down, insecure and gutted? I should be rejoicing. I'm scared.

I don't want to be on my own. I don't want to be scared. I feel like he's screwed me up so much over the years, he's made me question my sanity when all along I was right about his womanising and drinking.

My post is a bit all over the place, I'm sorry. I feel like a deer in headlights. How do I go forward?

OP posts:
yesterdaystotalsteps123 · 15/03/2020 09:29

You were not married for 20 years, you were abused for 20 years. Well done now it is over. Just take it one day at a time, turn your thoughts away from him. That's one tactic abusers do, make sure all you think about them and their wants. Do things for you. Watch some coaching videos on emotional abuse, Stephanie Lyn coaching videos are good. I too didn't feel immediately better, because you're still in shock, but you will recover if you focus on you not him. That chapter in your life is finally over and now you have an opportunity to be peaceful

Bookworm83 · 15/03/2020 09:38

I think you might have a bit of a Stockholm syndrome, feeling bad and worrying about your abuser.

I went through a similar thing six years ago, and after leaving my emotionally abusive gambling-addict ex I was still paying his rent, lending him money because I felt guilty (even though I had done everything to help him prior to leaving, including expensive therapy!).

Please do not let him back into your life. You deserve so much better!!

vitdvitc · 15/03/2020 09:45

I just feel broken. I keep worrying that he's crying and beside himself yet in reality he's probably wondering who he's going to move on to next.

This feels like the worst rejection, which in itself is just twisted. What am I being rejected by? A cheating drunk...

OP posts:
Justtryingtobehelpful · 15/03/2020 20:48

Read the Lundy why does he do that book plus

How He Gets into Her Head: The Mind of the Male Intimate Abuser www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1855942208/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_gxxAEbBTMRXTM?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

It'll help explain why you're so attached

12345kbm · 15/03/2020 21:16

OP you've been through the ringer. I take it he's no longer in the house?

I suggest you start therapy asap. If you've got cash then take a look at BACP

I look at him and see some creepy, slimey, desperate old drunk.
That's because he is.

Time to block him for a minimum of 30 days OP (unless you need contact for children). Block him on everything and go cold turkey.

Freedom Programme is also a good idea but I think one to one therapy for a while.

You might also appreciate Co dependent No More by Melody Beattie.

NoMoreDickheads · 15/03/2020 21:58

Freedom Programme is also a good idea but I think one to one therapy for a while

There's no need to choose. Smile

@vitdvitc, I've found the Freedom Programme really helpful- if only because all the other women there are so friendly and supportive. If there isn't a group near you, you can do it online, but I think it's worth a bit of travel if there's one you can reach. It's not therapy as such, it's info about the tactics of dodgy blokes. Highly recommended. Smile

We were given this as a little card to put in our wallets for instance:-

NoMoreDickheads · 15/03/2020 22:00

Sorry if it's a bit blurry. It's more readable here. www.improvemen.org/freedom-programme.html

vitdvitc · 16/03/2020 08:56

Thank you all for your advice. It helps more than you'll ever know. I have rl friends but I'm worried about bogging them down with my crap.

Yesterday I received a message from him telling me he'd bought drink. I'm assuming because I didn't go and take the bottle off him, he was upset so then later in the day I, after I'd blocked his number everywhere, I received an email telling me that all money he pays will be stopped.

To start off, reading that put the fear of god through me. He knows I worry about keeping a roof over our heads. ( I am freelance so never know what's coming in ) but then after a while I just thought to hell with it.

Stupidly, I still worry about him. I miss him but I'm assuming I'm just missing who I thought he was.

It's going to be a minute by minute process today trying not to contact him, ignoring his emails and not having a panic attack about the future.

God this all sucks and I don't know if I have the strength anymore

OP posts:
Justtryingtobehelpful · 16/03/2020 09:47

He knows what buttons to press on you. You're not playing his game anymore so he's annoyed. That's why he emailed you when he got no response on text. Also why he mentioned the money issue. Go NC and grey rock on him!

12345kbm · 16/03/2020 10:52

Do you have money for a solicitor OP?

If so, you can find a Family Law solicitor here.

It might be an idea to contact Gingerbread for advice regarding his threat to withhold money. They will tell you about going through CMS etc

He sounds like a bully OP.

vitdvitc · 16/03/2020 13:11

No, I don't have a solicitor yet. I'll change that today.
He's so drunk this morning. I've had messages as I forgot to turn off iMessage on my computer.
He's demand I tell him if we have a relationship or not. I'm a dick and a c*nt apparently.
Now blocking every single channel he has to me.

OP posts:
12345kbm · 16/03/2020 13:27

Here comes the abuse.

Start a log of the abuse OP. Keep all abusive messages, try to print them out. Log: Date/Time started-finished/How it makes you feel/Evidence-Witnesses

Send him a final message saying that further contact from him with be considered harassment and is unwelcome. (I'm not sure if you have children or not OP) If you do, then email only which is even better as it's evidence.

You may need a Non Molestation Order. You can contact the NCDV for advice on that.

The abuse is probably going to escalate OP as he's losing control. If he comes to your place or threatens you contact the police.

12345kbm · 16/03/2020 13:30

Also, if you have children and he wants contact, absolutely no way if he's drunk. It's neglect. Supervised access only in a centre.

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