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Boyfriends female ‘friend’

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Goldenv123 · 14/03/2020 03:29

I’ll try and keep this short...

I don’t know if I’m over reacting or not but this current situation with my boyfriend has brought up a lot of stuff from my last toxic relationship.

names changed my boyfriend Sam (M27) used to hangout one on one with Jess (F26) before we started dating and then throughout the beginning of our relationship. Jess is Sam’s best friends ex girlfriend. They would go out drinking a lot together just the two of them and she would stay over his after. When I first met Jess, Sam disappeared with her without introducing me, she was all over him. Eventually I found him and he said we should leave. She starts blowing up his phone until he eventually answered. We go to another bar, she shows up. I am left sitting the other end of the bar with my friend with them at the other end, he was oblivious to me until I got up and walked out. He chased me down and said to come back to his, surprise surprise she tags along too. She didn’t talk to me, I knew she wasn’t interested in getting to know me at all. After that I just had a really bad feeling.

The next incident was I was out with mutual friends for a birthday, he was out too so I text half way through the night to meet up and he said he couldn’t - turns out he was with her (although with other friends too).

On a couple of occasions he has ‘forgotten’ to mention she was with him when he’s been on nights out, I only found out when people he was with mentioned something about her from that night.

I let it go and let it go for a while because my last relationship really messed with my head - he cheated multiple times and always had a ‘female friend’ on the scene that always turned out to be something more - he always turned it around on me so I always stayed, even though I knew the truth. I lost all my confidence and doubted my judgement of situations.

Then after a drunken night out, Sam mentions Jess wants the two of them to go snowboarding together and said he wouldn’t go because I wouldn’t like it. I couldn’t hold it in anymore after that and confronted him. The fact he wouldn’t do it because I wouldn’t like it is a good thing yes, but it made me feel like I was stopping him from going. I freaked out, and yes I know I shouldn’t have done it, but I asked to see their text messages. They met up when he was home for Christmas. And since then she has text him multiple times asking to meet up for a drink/dinner etc. He replied saying he was busy but another time which is great and I should be relieved but I can’t shake off this feeling. He also shots himself in the foot by saying he knows it’s inappropriate as he’s in a relationship, and I’m not the only one who has queried their ‘friendship’ in the past. His roommate thought they were sleeping together. I don’t know why he told me this, maybe he thought he was reassuring me and that I’m not being crazy. But it made me feel worse.

He also keeps saying she has a boyfriend. It’s a small town where we are and a friend regularly goes to the bar she works at and was pretty sure she was single and definitely ready to mingle!

I know I may come across slightly crazy and insecure but after my last relationship I don’t want to be treated like that again. Maybe I am being super sensitive and suspicious because of that but at the same time I hate the thought that this very attractive single girl keeps asking to hang out with my bf. The fact that it’s his best friends ex too I find weird as it’s not like she hangs out with any of his other friends or as a group.

After being with my ex, where he constantly tried to convince me that I was crazy and untrustworthy, only to find out he was cheating scares me. I feel like history is repeating itself.

Any advice welcome!

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DroubleTrouble · 14/03/2020 03:48

Ok your not over reacting this would also drive me mad.
Are they just mates and he's worried it will upset you so he's hiding some things? Or is he wanting to fuck her? Sounds like she isn't into him.
You need to hit the nail on the head now have you asked to speak to her? Maybe text her and go for a coffee? X

ukgift2016 · 14/03/2020 07:13

Omg how much evidence do you need? Do you need to see them shagging to actually believe this relationship is inappropriate?

If he wants to carry on this 'friendship' he cannot have you. Simple. Stand up for yourself woman. You shouldn't be having to deal with this pathetic game between them.

Treacletoots · 14/03/2020 07:47

What Ukgift2016 said.

I have a very good friend who is male. We've been friends for years, but the thought of doing anything you've described above makes me laugh out loud. Men and women Can be friends, but this clearly isn't the case. He's treating you like rubbish, block, dump, run.

Babooshkar · 14/03/2020 08:11

Just wall away, life is too short.

RLEOM · 14/03/2020 10:04

Go with your gut. I got dragged through months of "she's just a friend" on 2 occasions with 2 different female friends with the same man: when we'd just got together and when I'd just had his baby. The first one turned out to be a FWB and the second one is now his gf. 🙄 Always go with your gut!

SmellsLikeSpring · 14/03/2020 10:20

I have a number of male friends. Some of them are in relationships. None of the wives/girlfriends have an issue with me. I always make an effort to be friendly with them, even if we will never be friends, because the last thing I would want is for someone's wife/gf to feel insecure or worry about my intentions.

I also insist that they are honest about meeting up with me. The second a man said that he wasn't going to tell is partner he was meeting with me is the moment it becomes inappropriate. I had one friend who initially said, "don't do the social media thing" (ie tag he and I together somewhere) but we talked about it and he told her we were meeting because he agreed it looked suspicious even though it wasn't. His partner and I are good friends now, largely down to the honesty of the situation and I know she wasn't bothered at all. But she no doubt would have been if he'd kept it a secret.

I had a boyfriend who had a close female friend of over 20 years. I didn't ever see their messages, and didn't feel the need to, bit he always told me when he had met her for lunch or gone round for dinner. Prior to me, she had stopped over in the spare room on occasion after a night of drinking. Never once had a problem with that.

I would not like the situation you describe and would walk away. Its ot thebfact hebhas a female friend that is the issue but the way the 'friendahip'is being conducted and the nature of it.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 14/03/2020 10:25

You are not crazy. They have been sleeping together.

Branleuse · 14/03/2020 10:31

err no, you dont sound crazy. It sounds like youre being mugged off tbh.

Honestly they must think you were born yesterday. Id dump him and leave them to it. He must love playing two women off against each other

SudokuQueen · 14/03/2020 10:52

Yeah they are sleeping together. She doesn't like you because you're the competition.

Walk away. He won't ditch her because he's liking the attention. Guaranteed as soon as you dump him, they will be a couple.

Savingshoes · 14/03/2020 10:57

Whether they are or whether they're not... they mean a whole lot more to each other than you do to him.
He's not exactly putting you first and has been far too deceitful throughout your relationship for me to want to continue.
If she was a he and they spent lots of "lads nights out" and disappeared on me, ignored me for most of the night to be with his mates, it would still mean the same: his actions speak volumes.
Put him out with the bins.

SuckingDieselFella · 14/03/2020 10:59

If she's staying over at his place this is more than a friendship and he is just messing you about.

I would drop him. If you keep asking him about her you will lose your self-respect.

MsDogLady · 14/03/2020 15:14

He is thoroughly enjoying this triangle he has set up where 2 women adore and compete for him. Walk away and leave them to it.

KatherineJaneway · 14/03/2020 15:18

ukgift2016 has it.

MauriceandAlec · 14/03/2020 15:26

ukgift is right. He's enjoying all this drama. He's immature and fancies himself a player. How annoying. He's an arsehole. Dump. Wouldn't even bring her up, I'd just go with this relationship isn't working for me anymore so it's over.

ThisSistineWontScreamAtItself · 14/03/2020 15:40

You don't sound crazy at all.

Try to use your last relationship as a lesson in how important it is to make boundaries clear from the start and follow through on them.

This relationship is already toxic. Walk away - it didn't work out, that doesn't have to be a huge deal and isn't worth the headspace you're giving it.

You have the rest of your life to meet someone who makes you feel secure and confident - he just isn't the one to do that.

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