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itsjustme555 · 09/03/2020 10:26

Hi everyone.

I have been with partner a year. Even in this short time it hasn't been easy. We have argued a lot and I have noticed things that have made me try to distance myself a bit whilst I figure out my situation. However I am not perfect myself, I also have some health concerns and other issues that may or may not contribute to the problems we have had.

I just wanted to give an example of how it went when I saw him recently and whether you agree that I may be too sensitive or easily offended (his words) or whether it does sound like shitty behaviour/a shitty day. I probably will give too much detail, I am not sure why he would ever come across this site but if he does and twigs, so be it!

So here is a rundown of what occurred recently:

I contacted him to ask to hang out. He seemed happy to do that and agreed a time later on. However when I arrived it was clear he was in some kind of mood. Perhaps because I have been unwell lately due to ongoing health concern and unable to see him every single blooming day. Perhaps because I am not a huge texter at the best of times (he knows this) and hadn't texted him the day before. However when I asked if he was ok even though it seemed clear he wasn't, he said he was fine and didn't communicate any issues to me.

Anyway he was in some mood but I tried my best to be chatty and chirpy. I started explaining a story but he began mimicking me. I guess he was trying to do it in a jokey way but I found it annoying so I said oh, I won't bother to carry on then. He said something like oh don't be like that trying to appease me, so I begrudgingly finished whatever story it was.

Then I had to nip out to pick up something. I think he knew at this point that I was concerned he was in a mood (as I had asked him if he was ok). On my return, he was suddenly ok and saying hi really nicely etc. It just felt like some sort of fake mask he had suddenly put on.

However because of what had happened earlier, my mood had been dampened so I kept my distance for a while as I was trying to process things. We watched TV for a bit.

Then I told him how I was feeling a bit unwell. He made some comment about how it was because I had been lazing about and not doing anything recently. Yet up to this point he had not actually asked me what I had done that morning or the day before! On the contrary, I had cleaned and done some work. It felt like what he usually does in a roundabout way (making me feel I am to blame). He then made some weird comment about my body and how that is related to me being unwell (won't give further detail just in case). I presume it was a dig about me being too skinny (I have lost a lot of weight since we got together, I know he is concerned about that)

I said it wasn't a very nice comment, and he said I shouldn't take offense so easily. I said oh so my feelings don't matter then, that is ok you carry on then.

...Of course, I am rarely able to find fault/joke with him/disagree with him (not that I do it really at all) without him totally blowing up about it...

This kind of thing would normally have resulted in an argument between us, I could see it could escalate but he was trying harder than normal to control it/control himself to make sure it didn't. He turned it round again to ask well why do I feel unwell then. In the end the conversation just fizzled out.

There were other things too but I am worried that I have given far too much detail already, what can you do though as I would love some advice and need to explain it obviously! Basically I had arrived in a good mood and left feeling crappy, going over and over in my head how the day had turned out disappointing and how annoyed I was by these constant little things. I know there is no point telling him how I feel any more and how that day made me feel, as he will get overly angry, it will just get twisted on me, or I will be told I am too sensitive.

Am I too easily offended? Is it normal for adults to mimick their partners voice, often blame things even tiny things on their partner all the time (eg if keys cant be found, jokingly saying oh you must have put them somewhere even if they aren't my keys), try to make jokes about them (however jokey, subtle or not very harsh they are) and say it was just a joke. I don't know if now I am older I do not tolerate 'banter' like I used to.

The thing is that when we first got together he often complimented me and seemed nice and very into me. I know we have had our ups and downs but now he is normally just joking around with me, usually not very harsh things though but still, then saying it was just a joke. I can't remember the last time he complimented me, the only time I remember is when I fished for it eg asking him if I looked nice. I know I am not perfect by any means and my health issues are a problem. But I still compliment him occasionally, I thank him for what he does for me, I don't mimick his voice or really joke at his expense.

Would this kind of day piss you off too or am I too sensitive? Sorry this is so long!

Thanks!

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Opentooffers · 11/03/2020 23:42

People who are nice show it in their actions, it's the ones who feel the need to verbally tell you they are nice who have problems and are anything but. They are trying to convince others and themselves they are decent, but any decent person does not shout about how lovely they are, they realise it's for others to judge, not for them to convince.

BitOfFun · 11/03/2020 23:46

Don't waste any more time on this relationship. Love just isn't this hard.

Tdaadfb100 · 11/03/2020 23:48

www.psychopathfree.com/articles/30-red-flags-of-manipulative-people.212/

I hope I’m wrong .. but THIS! If this rings any alarm bells run away NOW and do not contact’ immediately. Trust me, they will not change and you cannot ‘fix them’.

Read up on it. Once you are educated you can spot the a mile off.

Bella2020 · 12/03/2020 01:16

Have you dumped him yet, OP?

itsjustme555 · 12/03/2020 07:26

Thanks everyone.

He does try and show he is nice through his actions by doing favours for people, getting little gifts etc. But I still never understood why he has felt the need to say out loud more than once that he is nice. And the temper I have seen in him doesn't mesh with that.

It is hard to think of him as a bully as when he jokes or mimicks etc it is never in a nasty tone, never angry, never really nasty things. He just appears to think he is joking. But I have told him before I don't always like it, he still does it, so it is that disregarding thing. Honestly other than anything else it just gets boring and it is just the last thing amongst all the other things that has lessened my attraction (temper, arguing, blaming me a lot, no friends or life really etc etc which I can't judge too much as I have been there myself sometimes but still)

I haven't yet. I said it was a shame we could never discuss or resolve things and I wouldn't be seeing him. At some point I will grow a pair and send a message (to afraid to do it face to face for fear of another argument) I just want to make sure I get it worded spot on so it is clear that is the end and also so it is clear I don't want him texting or knocking on my door which he has done previously when I tried ending it

He will blame it on my health again, well I don't give a shit anymore frankly why he thinks it is

Thank you everyone for all the advice though

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Friendsofmine · 12/03/2020 08:04

I think you have nailed it in your own mind and that is the important thing.

Don't fall into the trap though - you are dumping this man at this point precisely because he disregards what you say, does not take feedback on, nothing can be resolved etc. This means regardless of how you word it in your message he will not "get it".

By all means try, but no amount of dialogue will help and you don't have to make him understand why he is being dumped.

You can simply say something like
(due to our inability to resolve anything) I have decided this relationship is no longer a positive one for me!

overnightangel · 12/03/2020 08:08
  1. Accept you’ve wasted a year of your life on him
  2. Dump him and tell him exactly why, as you’ve detailed on here
  3. Move on with your life
Zaphodsotherhead · 12/03/2020 08:39

In his head he's never progressed past being a teenager. Where humour is either sex related or 'funny voices', the art of diplomacy is yet to be learned and everything can be 'won' by the person with the loudest voice. Are you waiting for something to be able to hook a rejection message on, OP? 'You did this, it crossed my line, so we're over'? He may never do that. But the slow drip drip of him being a twat is quite enough. You don't need a Big Event.

Just text him saying that you've had a think, you don't seem to make each other happy and you're ending it and please don't contact you again. Then block, so he can't whinge and whine and try to suck you back in. If you've been polite and amiable in your message there's not reason that meeting him in the street would be awkward, you just smile, say hello and keep walking.

itsjustme555 · 12/03/2020 14:50

Yes I don't know, I guess I am still having a hard time because I do care for him strongly despite it all. But so much has bothered me and I know deep down it probably isn't right/doesn't have a future.

I do agree @Zaphodsotherhead that despite him being a grown man and a fair amount older than me his humour/personality hasn't progressed much past teenager level. It isn't even witty really.

I just think he views me as some weak messed up woman that can't look after herself and needs caring/protecting but of course that leads to a power imbalance, me feeling like he is being condescending and making me seem like a bimbo (sorry to use that horrible term) when I am actually quite intelligent and highly educated (much more than him)

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LJenn · 12/03/2020 14:59

How about you call him out next time, rather than letting it go.. how about
"why are you mimicking me like a toddler?" "I'm trying to have a conversation with you."
TBH it's rude and immature, don't tolerate it.

TaterWaffle · 12/03/2020 15:13

Recite this in his direction:

“If that was a joke, we would both be laughing, wouldn’t we? Which we are not. Now fuck the fuck off, you tedious dickhead.”

itsjustme555 · 12/03/2020 15:40

Haha yes, I will try both of those next time, if I can bring myself to ever arrange to see him again, which currently I cannot.

I have called it out before though, like in my first post saying it wasn't nice or that wasn't funny or whatever, he always just pulls a funny face at me and tells me it was just a joke. On the particular occasion mentioned he said I shouldn't be so easily offended.

Definitely have to memorise that one though @taterwaffle and @LJenn ! Grin

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LJenn · 12/03/2020 15:42

@itsjustme555 forget what I said... go with @TaterWaffle ... much more affective 😂😂😂😂😂😂

itsjustme555 · 12/03/2020 20:15

Haha @LJenn they are both good, it almost makes me want to arrange to see him again just to be able to say them...almost..
But not quite GrinWink

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