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I feel defeated... Where to go from here?

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SugarPieHoneyBunch1 · 08/03/2020 11:27

DP often has a “face” on him and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to live with. I just feel that I’m either walking on egg shells or that there’s an argument due to erupt soon.

We had our first DC last year and I feel like I do everything for DC. DP often doesn’t get home until 8-9pm, taking overtime, though I wouldn’t be surprised if he went to friends’ or whatever during this time. Before we got together, DP was (still is) a huge introvert. He likes his own space. He likes to live in a very clean house. He likes time alone.

I feel like I do the best I can in the house (still on maternity leave) whilst I have a very active 10 month old cruising around the house, needing supervision, attention, playtime, feeding etc. I keep on top of the laundry and I tidy as I go along, but the deep clean things can often go amiss. He does clean when he comes home, so I can’t fault him for not pitching in there.

As I say, he works every hour of overtime he can, and that leaves me with baby all day until 8/9pm, he’s home for an hour or so before we go to bed, then I do all of the night feeds except sometimes he’ll help on weekends, so he sees very little of our DC. He has a hobby (that he gets paid for) that he does every Saturday and Sunday. So I never get a “day off”. I hardly ever have time to go to the gym, to go out with friends without DC, time for a soak in the bath, time to wash my hair (unless my mum comes around).

Last night he came home from his hobby and went upstairs to watch a film, citing an upset stomach for his reasons. The reality is, it was a few hours without having to be with me and DC, or so it feels.

This morning when he had a face on, I’ve asked what’s wrong. He said he’s fine. I said you don’t look happy. He said I’m not happy, I haven’t been happy for months, said he likes his own space etc., and I said I try to give you that and he said it’s not all about you.

I just feel defeated. I feel so rundown. I have DC constantly. I love DC so much that I would never resent this but sometimes it would be good to be myself for an hour or two, not just mummy. I haven’t lost the baby weight yet which DP also isn’t happy about, but I never have time away from DC to be able to go to the gym. I feel like he has no appreciation whatsoever for what I actually do at home with DC. I know plenty of people have children so people may think I’m a softy here but I find it genuinely hard and exhausting some days and it feels like I do so much of it alone.

I resent that he can go to work, can eat his lunch without a baby crawling up his leg, he can go to the gym after work without consideration of who’s going to watch the baby. I resent that he can come and go as he pleases, always knowing I have DC but I can’t do the same because he isn’t around.

And then to hear this morning he’s the unhappy one. It’s just gutted me. I let him do whatever he pleases and sacrifice so much of myself for it, but he still feels he’s the one hard done by.

I don’t really know what I expect from this post. Realistically I’m not going to LTB right now. Has anybody else been through this? He calls it us “going through the motions” of having a baby. Is this normal? I just feel lost.

OP posts:
RantyAnty · 09/03/2020 06:30

It sounds like you have the big job and him not so much.

Tell him he is going to have to reduce hours so he can do the drop off and pick up as well as take care of some things around the house while you're at work.

Or better yet, since your not married, get rid of this disrespectful piss taker before he grinds you down.

FlowerArranger · 09/03/2020 07:21

I go back in about 5 weeks, full-time, in a senior position that often requires me to work long hours. I tried a conversation about that last night, too, and that didn’t go too well. He seemed really put out that I’d need help in a morning getting myself and DC ready to leave on time to get to nursery so I can get to work on time

@SugarPieHoneyBunch1..... this will be your life. This will not get better. You are married to a dissatisfied, unhappy, moaning man. You call him an introvert, but actually he is just totally self-absorbed and supremely selfish. And he DELIBERATELY puts on the Face to put the blame on you. This is an integral part of his personality. He has neither respect nor compassion for you.

And he will not change. Because essentially he can't be bothered. Imagine: if you weren't living with him, how much time and emotional energy you'd free up for more worthwhile pursuits!

SugarPieHoneyBunch1 · 09/03/2020 09:30

You all make very valid points and I'm taking it all in. I guess the last 24 hours have been more of a realisation, because I'd moaned and seethed to myself but that not really looked for external advice and reading your responses to my post is making me realise all the more how unacceptable it is.

I do know I deserve more though, as does DC. I keep thinking I don't want DC to live between two houses and have parents that are separate but then if I keep things as they are, at what cost is it that he has his parents together?

OP posts:
springydaff · 10/03/2020 14:24

Totally. You don't want him growing up in a hell hole. And what would it teach him about relationships?

springydaff · 10/03/2020 14:26

You're not married to him? Please say you're not married to him!

Because if you aren't married then tip him out like the cocklodger he is.

Zaphodsotherhead · 10/03/2020 16:53

I haven’t lost the baby weight yet which DP also isn’t happy about

This told me all I need to know...

allthiswasunseen · 10/03/2020 17:17

You are in an absolutely enviable position - you can have the money, independence and family support to leave him without it really impacting on your life much at all. Other than to improve it as you wont' have the emotional and psychological drain of this man.

I really envy you.

thegirlwhowaited · 10/03/2020 18:01

And you aren’t married to him by the look of it.

You are luckier than you think you are.

Get him telt and get him oot.

Dawninglory · 10/03/2020 19:38

Wow OP, in your position I would rather be on my own.

RubySlippers77 · 10/03/2020 22:59

OP - do you think your DP will bother doing anything for you for Mother's Day?

Mine did zero for my first Mother's Day and I was gutted. The DC were about 6mo by then and he'd been so crap till then but I thought nah, it's Mother's Day, he'll make an effort... nope. He did let me have a lie in (my first ever at that point!) then brought up some mushy cereal and slammed it down - I don't like cereal Sad he spent the whole day in a sulk (and yes, with The Face on!) as for once he was supposed to be nice to me. Completely defeated the object of trying to make it a nice day for me.

(And yes, I know it's all a bit commercialised, but a lie in and breakfast in bed costs nothing!)

Assuming your DP has noticed the million and one signs about the forthcoming event, there's really no excuse for him not trying to do something nice for you. If he doesn't, then it probably tells you all you need to know about how much respect he has for you and whether or not he actually cares about some family involvement.

allthiswasunseen · 11/03/2020 07:47

God, whether this man does something for mother's day or not, he has already clearly communicated, and for some time, exactly what he thinks of OP and family life.

Zaphodsotherhead · 11/03/2020 09:38

I also think he's another one of these men who likes their own space just a little bit too much. What did he think having a baby would mean? There are always changes in a relationship when a baby comes along. It sounds as though he wants you to carry on exactly as you did before, almost as though your DC is a cat or a dog you can just live your lives around with some small changes.

EVERYTHING changes when there's a baby in the house. He does not sound as though he cares very much about that. And he has absolutely NO RIGHT to say one single solitary word about your weight, pre or post baby. It is not his place to be 'unhappy' about you not losing the baby weight. You're the mother of his child, not a fucking ornament.

SapatSea · 11/03/2020 10:33

He wants you walking on eggshells and trying to please as it leaves him free to do what he likes and opt out. IT makes his "needs" (such as time alone etc)which aren't needs but preferences paramount. He is the kind who doesn't like to share. It is ALL about him (King of the world) but he switches the argument around onto you. You have tried to have rational conversations.

If you still think things can be salvaged you could use the "nuclear option" of telling him to leave and see how he responds. But only do it if you really will go it alone.

He probably doesn't like you anymore but likes his home comforts enough to offset that. Not liking you and "resenting" the situation (re DC) means he has carte blanche to opt out. You are "the housekeeper." Did he want children? or is that one put on you too?

It's so heartbreaking to realise all your tender love and giving of yourself is unappreciated.

SugarPieHoneyBunch1 · 12/03/2020 19:39

OP - do you think your DP will bother doing anything for you for Mother's Day?

I honestly don't think he'll do anything for Mother's Day. If I end up with some rubbish flowers, I'll be disappointed. I've actually ordered my own mug with a picture of DS on it ready for my desk when I return to work so I know I have a present.

Did he want children? or is that one put on you too?

Yep, he wanted children. He was the one who first suggested it.

And he has absolutely NO RIGHT to say one single solitary word about your weight, pre or post baby. It is not his place to be 'unhappy' about you not losing the baby weight. You're the mother of his child, not a fucking ornament.

This made me cry 😢 Since he made the comment a few months ago, it's stuck in my head constantly. I can't get it out of my head. I know I'm not particularly attractive right now but I have no time for myself. No time to food prep, gym, etc. It made me feel so shit to think that me being a wonderful mother (IMO) to his child was enough for him to love me for who I am.

You're not married to him? Please say you're not married to him!

No, we're not married.

I'm sorry it's taken a few days to respond to the thread. I hadn't been checking for responses since I last posted and only just now remembered to check.

I feel like such a walkover but I need to not wallow in self-pity, because I'm the only one who can do something about the situation, and if I don't find the strength or courage to, then I can't really complain about it.

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Useryokyesno · 12/03/2020 19:59

You could be my sister! But she's got 2 children. Her husband isn't British either but it would be massively unfair on his culture to blame that. Although there are some cultural differences in his background at least.
They have 2 beautiful children who don't have any additional needs and behave pretty well. One is a baby so I mean she's not difficult. But everything is a chore for him. He's uptight, moans and can't cope with one for long let alone both. Like your partner he's often got a face on. I think it's quite controlling.
She like you has a good job and family support. I wish she would act like you're thinking about. You deserve better than this. I see him just sucking joy from the family. It sounds like your partner is the same.

SugarPieHoneyBunch1 · 12/03/2020 21:14

Your poor sister.

Yeh, it does feel like the joy is being sucked away at the moment. My sibling came earlier (I'm purposely trying to be gender neutral so it's not outing as DP knows I'm on here) and they were so disappointed in me for allowing myself to become so worn down about it. They were annoyed that I've not been more vocal and told him if he can't buck his ideas up, then he needs to leave. They asked me, what negative impact would it have on your life, other than missing him, if DP left, and I couldn't name one. Sibling told me that was absolutely terrible.

OP posts:
Useryokyesno · 12/03/2020 21:57

It is bad. But I know from my own sister's experience it isn't as simple as just leaving or kicking out! But on the other hand he is unlikely to change and you will juat have years of this. You may think it doesn't make a difference because you're not looking for someone else right now or while your baby is young. But he will grind you down more. There's been a few threads on here recently about how much people are tip toeing around their partners. Feeling like they need to keep them happy. It happens so slowly without you realising. It's really unlikely to get better and in a few years or more it will be that much harder to leave.

GilbertMarkham · 12/03/2020 22:20

Nursery bills may make it a little tight if I was alone but I'd just have to cut my cloth accordingly..

Could be wrong but I thought single mums get 85% of childcare costs for registered daycare or child minder; not sure if salary makes a difference or not.

HollowTalk · 12/03/2020 22:42

You are clearly a very bright and hardworking woman, OP. You're in a senior position at work.

Look at your situation in the cold light of day. Your partner is not acting like a partner. He doesn't even seem to want to be a partner. It's very telling that you think he's spending his "overtime" with friends rather than coming home. Once home he criticises you and doesn't enjoy spending time with his baby.

You're not married. You can manage financially. You have great family and friends. You are in such a strong position.

What would you advise someone else to do? Would you suggest they stay with this man, in the hope that he will change? He's not showing signs of that, is he? Would you keep someone on at work if they behaved like that? Would you recommend to your peers at work that you keep on someone who's so useless AND who makes you feel uncomfortable?

If you knew you were on your own with the baby then you wouldn't be spending all that time worrying about this man and his moods. You wouldn't be walking on eggshells. Your home would be a happy home, which is what your son deserves.

I don't know which culture your OH is from but there are very few places in the world where all the men are irritated by the presence of their baby son. Don't use that as an excuse.

category12 · 12/03/2020 22:46

I've actually ordered my own mug with a picture of DS on it ready for my desk when I return to work so I know I have a present.

Jeez OP - you're already doing everything on your own, even your own presents. Where's his care and affection for you? His respect? He brings nothing.

HollowTalk · 12/03/2020 23:28

I bet you'll buy him something for Father's Day, won't you?

PerfidiousAlbion · 12/03/2020 23:40

What is the point of him, beyond providing sperm? (crude, I know but accurate nonetheless).

It sounds like he’s had a change of heart OP, that is, if he was ever a loving, caring partner. Or did he simoly see you as a meal ticket?

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