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DH, his friend am I wrong here?

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FairlyDusted · 02/03/2020 23:06

Been with DH 6 years, 2nd marriage for both of us.
We're middle aged, all DCs have left home and all is usually good.

DH has a group of friends from years back as do I since they met life has happened and they now all live in different parts of the country. When they all get together they usually spend a day/overnight together.

From the first time I met him I was sure that DH's best friend also eventually best man at our wedding didn't like me. I made a real effort and wasn't sure what I'd done wrong.

Over time I kept trying but it became clearer that this friend really didn't like me. Subtle things, snide comments, ignoring me, verbally unpleasant, criticising me, insinuating that I only married DH for his money DH earns more than me but my salary is good too and many other instances.

Friend often belittles and undermines his own wife too, I get on well with his wife. I really like Friend's wife and we get on well.

I've been making an effort for DH sake. Friend and one other friends from their group stayed on Friday and Saturday night they were going to a rugby match on the Saturday. Before they stayed me & DH prepared the house, meals, I gave them a lift to the train station and picked them up and other things to make their stay easy.

When they were all together I mostly kept out of their way, at mealtimes and other times we were together Best Man Friend was making piss taking faces at other staying friend when I spoke. He cut me off in conversation a few times, told me a new item of furniture I had chosen was 'crap' was generally rude and undermining. All while DH was distracted so without his knowledge.

At previous times I've told DH about things his friend has said and done but DH has said that the Friend 'has a funny way' 'is odd' 'doesn't think before he speaks sometimes' etc. DH doesn't like the way that friend speaks to his own wife and thinks she will leave when their DCs leave home.

After their visit I told DH what had been happening, he believed me, we talked about it and DH said he was going to rethink the blokes meet ups and do things differently in future and that he has chosen to be with me and that's most important.

Then DH told me about an email he'd received from Friend bemoaning the fact that they couldn't have a lads holiday together, just the two of them they have only once or twice been for a weekend together in all the years they've known each other, also Friend and family don't have much money.

Friend has always been the driving force behind the group meet ups, he organises them and wants them to increase. He had mentioned June. I told DH that I won't stop him seeing his friends but that I would like him to put some distance between himself and Friend.

DH is a natural peacemaker and non confrontational.

AIBU to think that it's not ok to visit someone, take advantage of their hospitality and be incredibly rude and childish?

What would be a reasonable future course of action for me here?

OP posts:
Qwerty543 · 04/03/2020 15:50

Your DH needs to ditch this tosser. Continuing to be friends with someone who is this disrespectful towards you is not on.

DBML · 04/03/2020 16:26

I’m sorry op, you’re a whole lot more patient than I am.

The minute he’d have said anything to me in my own home, I’d have piped up,
“Did you hear that DH, Bob said our new console table is crap”.

And he’d certainly be getting “I’m not sure who you’re talking to, but if it’s me, I suggest you improve your tone”.

DH would have know what was going on as I would’ve made it very public. This all before best man friend was asked to leave.

Seriously, his behaviour is disgusting and it does sound like jealousy. I hope your husband does create some distance (hopefully many years worth).

Lynda07 · 04/03/2020 16:56

Your husband can get together with his friend without you, surely. If there is a social event involving several friends you can go and circulate with people casually, not being overly involved with that person.

Some people really are strange and you may never know why he is but he isn't in your life that much.

ChinookPilotsGoVertical · 04/03/2020 19:11

He's gay. He hates his wife because he doesn't want to be married. He fancies your DH but sees you as a barrier between DH & him hence the way he treats you.
He pushes for the boys' meet ups and wants to go on holiday with your DH... He's gay.

Winterlife · 04/03/2020 19:22

In your shoes, I wouldn’t object to my DH seeing the friend. But I wouldn’t subject myself to him. I’d be out of town/away if he’s in your town. I wouldn’t object to my husband going away. My father did this once a year-rented a bus for a weekend to golf and fish in the mountains (30 or so men). My husband never goes away.

RandomMess · 04/03/2020 19:34

I think the arse wants an ally in your DH. He wants loads of meet ups and holidays to basically shag around and you getting with DH completely f*cked it up.

He is jealous and angry that DH is happily married and wants to spend time with his wife!

I would actually get in touch with his wife and ask if she is ok...

Gutterton · 04/03/2020 19:40

DBML - you are fucking awesome.

Have you actually ever dealt with anyone like that - or is there never a need because of the sheer power you exude?

Bringringbring12 · 04/03/2020 20:05

DH is a natural peacemaker and non confrontational.

Nope - your DH is weak and isn’t bothered by way friend talks to his wife (and not even close to having back bone to actually, gasp, say something)

Lilacpheonix · 04/03/2020 20:24

What ChinookPilotsGoVertical said. I think your intuition is spot on with this one when you say it seems like sexual jealousy OP.

FairlyDusted · 06/03/2020 18:37

I've had a long conversation with DH today, we both had the day off so we went for a long walk and we talked it all through.

DH is upset and angry with his friend and is completely onside (mine, ours). I reiterated that TBMF is never welcome at our house again and I will never see him. DH absolutely agrees with this.

DH used to message with TBMF at least every other day but he hasn't responded to TBMF's last message, received the Sunday he got back from staying at our house, that was nearly 3 weeks ago. He says that he doesn't know if or when he will speak to TBMF again. He is very angry about TBMF's behaviour and says it is entirely unacceptable.

To everyone who suggested it I cannot possibly know whether or not TBMF has long harboured a secret crush on DH, I used sexual jealousy as the best example I can think of to liken it to.

Patch23042 you say that He’s either very unhappily married and envious that your husband has had a second chance at marriage with you and our marriage was absolutely a choice for both of us. We were both financially independent, our DCs were grown up, we could have cheerfully lived together or separately forever. The only reason for me and DH to get married was that we are very much in love and very happy together. My OP doesn't really commute that but me and DH have a right laugh, a good life and a good time, this is the first blip we've had in 6 years. So yes, it could very well be envy. Even before this he isn't DH's best friend anymore.

Lynda07 thank you for your input, I believe the points you raise have already been addressed in this thread.

We've talked about whether we should get in touch with TBMF's wife RandomMess, she has lots of friends of her own and we aren't sure what point she's at on the leaving a marriage scale so our contact could be perceived as interference. When we've seen them together TBMF wife is a completely different person as soon as her DH leaves a room. When he's there she makes it seem like she's almost ditzy, doing what he says and ignoring his barbs, as soon as he's gone it's clear that she isn't ignorant and he pisses her right off. She's very good at handling him and I'm not concerned for her safety atm. If she decides to leave him in the future we'll give her any support that she needs.

bringbringbring12 DH is no push over, when he was here TBMF's behaviour was both subtle and intentionally staged so DH didn't see it. For the moment DH is doing nothing, he's not responding and doesn't plan to. Fwiw I think that's the smart thing to do for now. If the time ever comes again DH will address TBMF's previous behaviour directly with him.

OP posts:
Gutterton · 06/03/2020 18:54

That’s a great update FairlyDusted - sounds like you have a great guy and a great marriage to be able to talk it through and be shoulder to shoulder on this.

RandomMess · 06/03/2020 20:35

Sounds like he's a bitter jealous arse!!!

Glad his wife has great friends.

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