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Should he leave or stay??

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Erniethefastestmilkman · 29/02/2020 18:35

Hello long time lurker, first time poster, this will be a long post so please bare with me. I’m grateful in advance for all your advice.

My friend and his wife have been together 14 years both 37, 2 DC 12 and 7. Their relationship has always been what seemed to the outside world (myself included his best man) has a successful, stable and ultimately happy relationship. Until quite recently the past 18 months or so, he’s confided in me the inner details of their turbulent troubles. About 5 years ago now his partner went through what seemed a depressive state in their relationship were she wasn’t happy with his contribution to the home domestically (washing, cleaning up etc..My friend subsequently took her POV into account and made changes accordingly to try and address the issues she was having. However the problems from her perspective kept altering and changing and my friend told me she would often say she wasn’t happy and that he repulsed her in a physical and attractive nature, this kind of behaviour continued for about 2 years with my friends partner constantly finding fault in everything he endeavoured to achieve within their relationship I.E holiday destinations, choice of household furniture items, even down to the food he bought. They were always equal in terms of discussion and agreement in these types of domestic choices. After 2 years of this his own mental state started to deteriorate and excessive drinking became a factor, he would often ask me to come out with him for a drink at the weekend which for the first couple of months was fine but became too much of a regular occurrence to the point that potentially my own relationship could of suffered. About 2 and a half years ago he stupidly had an affair with a lady from work (unbeknown to me I would not of condoned it) it lasted about 4 months, quite expectedly all holy hell broke loose and he ended up moving back in with his parents when his wife found out, to cut a longer story short they eventually reconciled their differences and agreed to try again, their relationship as suffered because of his infidelity and after 2 more years of trying to make it work his wife has repeatedly told him she isn’t in love with him anymore they agreed that he should move out and they would co-parent their two children amicable, this was prior to Christmas since then my friend as just took out a lease on a rented apartment not too far away from the family home, however since this his wife as now reneged on the statement she doesn’t love him and does love him really and wants him to stay he is so confused what should he do!

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Erniethefastestmilkman · 29/02/2020 18:52

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Elieza · 29/02/2020 19:00

He’s paid for the lease. I’d suggest he should go move in there and see how they both feel in a few months time after a bit of time apart. If they’ve to be together again after that trial separation, so be it.

It does sound like they have had their issues but that she perhaps either doesn’t really want him but doesn’t want anyone else to get him either so wants to keep him nearby under her thumb. While not really sleeping with him, or being happy. More a control thing.

Or, she’s realised she will be worse off without him in some way and can’t face it and wants to use him for a few more years. During which time they will remain unhappy.

Or she has religious or ‘what will the neighbours think’ feelings of shame or embarrassment so wants to hide their problems from others and pretend nothing ever went wrong.

Or she genuinely wants to try again.

I think it’s likely to be one of the first ones.
Although with him being what appears to be a lazy bastard who left her to do all the housework etc I’m not surprised she got fed up with him. Even if he changed he’d still taken her for granted initially. That’s enough to scunner anyone. Perhaps they will be happier and more confident etc apart. What will be will be. No point in wasting a life with someone you are no longer in love with, if love is your goal.

YellowBeryl · 29/02/2020 19:06

If your friend is willing I would suggest they try some relationship counselling as previous attempts to resolve their issues themselves hasn't worked very well. Whether he moves out whilst this happens, only he can decide, but it might give them both some breathing space. However they both need to consider the impact on their children.

Thingsdogetbetter · 29/02/2020 19:07

From what I can see he was a lazy bastard at home for years until she called him out on it. And he blames it on her depression rather then blame his laziness for causing her depression. He changed but it was too little to late for her. Lazy men are rarely attractive especially one who say the issue is their wife's mh rather than their own behaviour. Relationship problems were all her fault according to him so he decided to shirk his responsibilities again, took up drinking so much it had impacts on his friend's relationship. Then he had an affair. Off he went to his parents. (Be interested to know how much contact/overnight visits etc he had with dc while living there?,) She tried to forgive him so he moved home again. It hasn't work. Now she's panicking because despite his atrocious behaviour, drink problem and affair she still seems to love him or is scared about being on her own with 2 kids.

He should move out and let the poor woman recover from his shite behaviour.

TorkTorkBam · 29/02/2020 19:18

He should stay away. They are not good for each other.

Why are you so involved?

Erniethefastestmilkman · 29/02/2020 19:26

Tork tork I wasn’t until quite recently about 18 months ago and only has a friend offering my own advice, which is not dissimilar to a few posters already.

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