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Husband seems depressed but not helping himself (or me).

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Shoopshedoop · 28/02/2020 10:56

My husband has seemed depressed on and off for the last 2 years. Lately, it's more consistent.
He says there is nothing wrong but he is joyless, exhausted, snappy miserable and persistently ill and run down. He has told me that he is fed up with his job and tells me he's tired a lot.
But, he is avoiding going to bed at a reasonable time in the evening, opting to watch film after film after film until the early hours. He prefers to do that rather than connect with me in any way. Then he wakes up tired and miserable. We also have young DCs who sometimes wake during the night.
I have fortnightly counselling and have done so since having PND as a way of keeping problems at bay, but he refuses to have some himself and scoffs at the idea. I have lots of self-help books but he won't read them, I've offered to try meditation and yoga with him but he rolls his eyes at me.
I am feeling lonely and unsupported. Yesterday I told him about a situation at work where I'd felt vulnerable after working with a potentially dangerous client. He didn't seem at all bothered and didn't seem to want to listen to me.
He is very insular and appears to just want to be around his parents. He is not confiding in them at all, I'm confident about that, but seems to be visiting them a lot in the evenings and calling them to spend time with him and the children when I am working and he isn't. He seems completely at a loss when he isn't around his parents, although they have always had an oddly close relationship, his parents treating him as a child and doing a lot for him.
I made him an appointment with the doctor as he kept getting ill and although he went, used it to discuss something else and more trivial.
I have taken away a lot of the household responsibilities so he doesn't have to worry about them and reduced my working hours to part-time so that I can cope. He is resentful now that I am earning less money, but he is not able to function enough at home to do more of his share.
He is socialising from time to time, but often drinks too much and spends days after feeling even worse. I've tried reasoning with him but he tells me he deserves a blow-out. He is over-eating, gaining weight and doesn't seem to care about his appearance or the state of the house.
There is no helping him, he is pushing me away and I am getting no support from him. I've spoken to his parents just because he is so close to them and they don't talk about feelings and just say they think he has a lot on at work. That's it. I've told them I am not coping with DH and they have said "how do you think DH feels juggling FT work and kids etc..."
I habe begun getting angry with him and saying hurtful things about the way he is living and behaving which I need to stop, but I feel so frustrated, I can't help it.
What do I do?
He needs to take care of himself to be able to take care of the children, our lives, our family. I'm at a loss?

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Shoopshedoop · 28/02/2020 10:58

Just to make it clear- he only drinks when he socialises, probably once every 3 weeks and not in the house.

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Shoopshedoop · 28/02/2020 18:37

Bumping up

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Fairycake2 · 28/02/2020 21:56

I dont have any great advice on how to fix things I'm afraid but what I will say is that you need to think about what you get out of this relationship and how much longer you are prepared to put up with this situation for. While I have huge sympathy for those suffering with depression, it can become extremely frustrating when the person won't do anything to help themself. It doesnt even sound like he's got any intention of getting so help so I think I'd be looking at my options if it were me. Good luck with whatever toy decide 💐

ItWentDownMyHeartHole · 28/02/2020 21:57

You are basically alone and unsupported. I’m so sorry.
You try to mother him because he won’t function properly or effectively and he doesn’t seem to like it or respond to it. But in return you expect him to behave like an adult. It’s desperately fucked up and so clearly not your fault. You’re doing all you can to cope.
What do you think would happen if he went and lived with his parents? Could you keep coping? Or maybe it’d be a load off?

Mercier1 · 28/02/2020 22:02

I’ve been in this situation. It’s so so hard.
My husband did seek help but he was off work for a year and has been now been made redundant.
The toil it’s taken on our marriage is huge. I feel alone also.
I’m working on getting us into Councilling as that’s the last option for me I think.
So I have no advice really other than to take care of yourself as much as you can.

EKGEMS · 28/02/2020 22:14

Tell him to pack his shit up and move in with mommy and daddy if he refuses to check back into the roles of husband and father. You are essentially a single parent anyhow

Happygirl79 · 28/02/2020 22:36

He sounds very depressed
What has changed recently

Ouchiebum · 28/02/2020 22:42

I had a similar situation. I realised I was effectively a single parent. And then that if I left my situation would only improve as he’d have to pick up the slack. Being told by my exes mum that I should be honoured he was angry, grumpy and rude to me helped me realise that there was no changing him. All I could change was my acceptance of his crap.

Shoopshedoop · 29/02/2020 07:23

I have too thought that if this continues, it may be for the best if he moves in with his parents. He has said that should we ever separate, this is what he would do.
It's hard helping someone who is a closed book and won't share their vulnerabilities. He seems unable to take a step away from his thoughts and feelings to consider what he ought to do about them, he's just consumed by them.
Ironically, if we split, he would no doubt be mortified and maybe even refuse to leave. I have suggested he goes to stay with his parents for a week or two; he says he will, but doesn't go.

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Shoopshedoop · 29/02/2020 07:27

I keep thinking about my pension too.
Why should I have to work part-time and effectively damage my pension benefits all because he can't function at home? If I worked FT whilst juggling everything, I would have a nervous breakdown myself I'm sure. The kids deserve some stability at least.
I am increasing my hours at some point before Christmas but I worry how I will cope.

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candycane222 · 29/02/2020 09:24

If he moves in with his parents, it sounds like they might have to take on his share of the dc care? Do you and dcs get on okwith his parents? And how would they feel about that - or would they expect you to go on carrying the full load?

RandomMess · 29/02/2020 09:29

I told DH I wanted a divorce, after a week when he asked to try again I made him actively seeking help from the GP and a therapist a condition of trying again.

Whathewhatnow · 29/02/2020 09:35

If you are married then you should have some rights to his pension... although if he is barely functioning it might not be the best idea to count wholly on that source of income.

Working full time with kids can be ok.. you wont necessarily have a nervous breakdown, especially if he has them more than EOW and 1 night midweek. Depends on you, and on your job, though. Civil servant, yes. GP: big fat NO!

Fairycake2 · 29/02/2020 11:30

I work full time and it is manageable, you just have to be organised and get into a really good routine. I also have a great childminder for before and after school. Could your parents help at all?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 29/02/2020 11:59

Sounds utter misery not just for you but for that matter your children also. What are they seeing at home?.

I would seek legal advice and look into separating from him; its no point whatsoever in carrying on as you have been doing.

Shoopshedoop · 05/03/2020 20:10

We've had a bit of a chat around what is going on for him. He is fed up of us not having enough money to:

  1. go on abroad holidays
  2. buy himself the things he wants to I think there's a bit of resentment around me not earning as much money since the DCs. However, I personally feel like the hefty load of home life is on my shoulders and mentally could not cope without working part-time. He thinks he is far better than he is at home so doesn't understand. I have explained that our financial situation is temporary until DC2 goes to school and then I will increase my hours again. We are not poor but can't afford many luxuries. We are not in debt, we drive a fairly nice car which is fully paid for, our mortgage is ticking along nicely. We just don't have money for the extras but Ive explained that this will come and now is the chapter for taking care of and enjoying our young children. This doesn't seem to bring him much joy at all. I think he is taking all our blessings for granted. He has then broached the subject of him going away on a 4 day stag do abroad with a group of friends. It will probably help his mental health for him to claw some freedom back, but if I'm honest, I feel a little disappointed.
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PlanDeRaccordement · 05/03/2020 20:28

Midlife crisis? He definitely needs to change. Sounds very negative and draining.

Shoopshedoop · 05/03/2020 20:37

Could definitely be a midlife crisis. I have wondered this too. He turned 40 last year. He seems to feel like he's missing out in some way.
I probably need him around more than many other women need their husbands post-children as my parents are not around and my sibling lives abroad. I also moved to a new area (not too far away, but far enough) after DC2 was born so lost many of my contacts and friends. Luckily for DH, we moved back to his home town, so he has more friends and family than me. He probably feels pressurised to be at home and to be hands-on for me as I don't have the luxury of relying on anyone else like he does. My inlaws help me too if I ask them, but it's not the same.

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thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 05/03/2020 22:01

He thinks he is far better than he is at home so doesn't understand.

Tell him! Give him a list of everything he does and ask him if he feels that's a lot/he pulls his weight. Then show him the list of everything you do and ask him would he be happy to do all that on top of working ft because that's what he's expecting from you.

Totally sounds like a MLC, acting like a teenager whinging that his mates have this and that and feeling hard up (and yes I'm not surprised he likes going to see his parents I'm sure he reverts back to child mode there). Yes we'd all like a 24hr maid and butler service and multiple £££££ holidays per year but with DC and not being Jeff Bezos that's not likely going to happen. He needs to cop on and get on with it, pretty much everyone with DC are in the same boat.

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