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My baby envy is turning me into a monster

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Dizin · 23/02/2020 11:12

Long post - a lot of factors are making me feel quite emotional right now, I just need to vent. Me and my bf are both 30

About 2 years ago me and my boyfriend felt like it was coming up to the time to try for a baby. Not right then but it was on the cards. We had been together 3 years by now. I was in a job I wasnt happy with so the plan was to find a new job, settle then maybe start trying. Things didnt go to plan.

A few months after the talk, I developed an illness. It's hard to explain but it's called Topical Steroid Withdrawal, where I stopped my eczema medication (cream) and my skin had an extreme reaction. I had been using these creams for 28 years and my body was basically addicted. Anyways, my skin was bright red, swollen, peeling, I was extremely tired, irritable and my confidence hit rock bottom. I looked like a different person. This was November 2017 when it started. With how I felt and looked I knew thinking about a baby was off the cards. It was like my life was put on hold since with TSW there is no sure time in which you recovery you just ride it out.

I became quite withdrawn but stuck it out with my job until July 2018. My skin was a lot better but the trauma from the journey was tough. I started working an online job while I continued to look for my dream job.

October 2018 I found out my boyfriend cheated on me a couple months prior. By the time I found out the "affair" had finished, it only happened once but it left me devastated. I had just started getting my life back together, my skin got better and I felt better and now this. I decided to try work it out and we decided to go couples therapy - this comes later on in my story.

Months go by and we try to work through the cheating. In May 2019 I land my dream job. I thought back to the original plan: new job, settle in, then start trying. I didn't feel that way anymore. I was still trying to build back trust.

All around me people were getting pregnant and I obviously felt pangs of jealousy. I was happy for everyone but kept thinking this could have been me. All my closest friends have babies, I'm the only one left.
In August 2019 we start couples therapy (long waiting list!) and a lot of things came up. My insecurities, me not feeling beautiful because of my skin, my mum being cheated on, his dad being a serial cheat, his brother having 2 accidental babies with a random girl, second one being conceived while he was in a relationship with his current girlfriend... I just sort of lost hope in the joy of the future since I've seen so many people just cheating! I became very down and paranoid that maybe I just couldn't get over the infidelity. A very confusing time.

October 2019, my boyfriends brother let us know he is expecting baby number 3 with his girlfriend. It hit me so hard. When I was alone at home I cried. It's so stupid but I kept thinking "He has 3 kids, I have none. It was supposed to be me. I'm 30 and have nothing, my relationship is in pieces, people have joy and all ovd had is suffering with my skin, my self worth and now pulling out all these things from my life through therapy." It. Just. Hurt. So. Much

I became very bitter and started confiding in my closest friend, just that I felt jealous. It's never going to happen for me. I wanted to be married first and with the infidelity I dont even know if that's a sure thing now. In my pettiness I said things about my boyfriends brother like hes just making kids everywhere but still living at home so he will dividing his time between 2 families now. I dont know how his girlfriend isn't freaking out because it's a less than ideal situation and considering the second child is younger than the length theyve been together, its crazy. I was cheated on and I'm still dealing with that but here they are, expecting a baby... a baby that I wished I was having.... I really hit a low point here.

It's now February, the baby is due in 2 months and I feel like a monster. I dont want to go to the baby shower but if I dont it will be obvious I have an issue. Its girls only so my boyfriend wont be there.
To top it off, my boyfriend saw those messages I sent to my friend about his brother. Hes not mad but hes like dont hold my brother's past against him. He says my vibe is very off eith him so clearly my envy/judgement is coming through even when I'm trying to hide it. I explained to him its because I dont want to be in that position. I dont want to be living separately, with a baby, not married and for him to think it's fine cuz his brother did it. I dont want side baby either which of cause is an insecurity that stemmed from the cheating over a year ago. I told him I also think its baby envy too and it's been extremely hard on me.

But at the end of all this I feel like if I wait for the house and marriage I will never have a child anytime soon. I'm 30, I want to be young for my children. I want my kids to grow up with my friends kids. Am I crazy for wanting commitment and security before kids? But at the same time just wanting a baby because I was prepared and planned for it. If I choose to leave my boyfriend, what if I never find someone else. I feel stuck. My friend is also pregnant now too during in June and I cant get away from it in group chat or even meeting up, it's just constantly thrown in my face its driving me crazy.... but I know I'm in a mending relationship, it shouldnt even be on my mind.

TL;DR had a plan that got ruined, I wanted to get a job and try for a baby. Instead, I went through a year of hell with my skin which ruined my self esteem, I managed to land the job I wanted but was dealing with infidelity, couselling and other people getting pregnant round me. Its killing me thinking my time will never come.

OP posts:
MuchTooTired · 23/02/2020 11:25

I’m sorry you’ve been through such a difficult time, I really am. It’s horrible desperately wanting a baby but not being able to have one just yet (fertility issues in my case), whilst everyone around you seems to be having them with ease regardless of circumstances.

The only thing I can suggest really is perhaps some individual counselling for yourself, to give you a safe place to unpack everything that’s happened and help you to decide if you can continue the relationship. You’re not crazy to want security and commitment before having children. Regardless of whether you stay together or not, he’ll always be in your life once there’s a baby in the picture.

In my limited experience babies/kids can test the strongest of relationships to the limit so wanting to be in a good place relationship wise is very sensible imho.

I wish you all the best 💐

Lelophants · 23/02/2020 11:31

Babies are one of the hardest things you'll ever go through and if the relationship isn't right, you could all really suffer.

It sounds like everything has really been awful. In hindsight, a lot can change in a year and 31 really isn't that old.

Can you take some time out, away from OH and have time to reflect and see what you really want? Do you think if you didn't want a baby you would stay with OH? Are you close with family you can talk to?

missyB1 · 23/02/2020 11:37

You are not wrong to want commitment and security before having a child with someone, in fact you are very wise. You still have a good few fertile years left so there is no need to panic. I would rather have a baby totally on my own than with someone that I didn’t trust.

missyB1 · 23/02/2020 11:40

Forgot to say I totally empathise with the baby envy. I’ve got 3 children but I’ve also had quite a few miscarriages so I know exactly what baby envy feels like, it’s really painful Sad
Don’t feel guilty about distancing yourself, I’ve had to do that at times.

Dizin · 23/02/2020 11:47

@Lelophants it really has been. My mind wont stop with the what if and buts... your question was a good one. If I didnt want kids I probably still would stay. Even with the cheating I do love my other half deep down I know I'll never trust him 100% again but I know my low self esteem means that I dont want to be alone. I don't really have anyone. Even friends I feel like I've kept most of it to myself because my issues are so stupid compared to real problem they have (marriage, kids, mortgages) I sometimes feel like that friend who is just lost and will never get their life together and just keeps making dumb choices.

I'm really throwing myself a pity party here...

OP posts:
Aloe6 · 23/02/2020 11:49

I would get away from the boyfriend- you’ll never be able to trust him again, and make a concerted effort to meet someone new.

Dizin · 23/02/2020 11:54

Agreed.

It's so backwards but I sometimes feel if I just have my baby I don't even care what happens to me and my bf. I will be all my baby needs. Im an only child so having a family means so much to me, I'll never be a real aunt if u know what I mean. I just want to show my baby a better life than I had but looking at the facts I've literally replayed history. Both me and my boyfriend are technically reliving our parents lives (him cheating like his dad and me staying with a cheater)

I know people can change and maybe he'll never do it again.... maybe. If that's how it works out then great, but my mind is always playing on the what if and I think its holding us back. But imagine, me just putting it all behind and being all care free and positive.... only for it to happen again. It would kill me hence why I'm like this. On my guard 24/7

OP posts:
DBML · 23/02/2020 12:05

You sound so sensible. Not wanting a baby whilst your relationship isn’t great, is a sign of maturity and consideration for the little life you wish to bring into the world. You are rightly concerned that your baby should have a secure home and family if possible.

You also know that your partner is not going to be able to offer this. He’s behaved badly and cheated and you are struggling to get past this. All very normal. Some people are able to get over being cheated on and others never do. You sound like a person for whom trust is the foundation of the relationship.

Have you ever considered a fresh start? Some time to yourself and meeting new people? I mean, the alternative is rushing to have a baby with a cheat.

As for having baby envy, I can honestly say that once I’d had my son, I had freedom envy - you can’t win. I mean that in a kind way.

Sorry you’ve been through all you have, but you sound like a person who has their head screwed on and 30 is still very young by today’s standards.

Aloe6 · 23/02/2020 12:07

If you end the relationship, you’re giving yourself the freedom to meet someone who you can truly relax with. I promise you, when that happens, you’ll look back and wish you’d ended this relationship years ago.

CityofTsars · 23/02/2020 12:34

You sound like you have your feet on the ground, OP, and will be a great mother when the time comes.

I just wanted to say all your reactions are perfectly normal - of course you don't trust a cheat, of course you're envious of people with something you long for and of course you're disappointed and fed up that your lovely plan was blown out of the water by all sorts of things.

You don't have to stay with your partner in order to have a baby. He is not your 'only shot'. It sounds like he's had nothing but feckless examples of men and fatherhood and lo and behold he's already started to follow them. That does not bode well for you and the lovely little family you envisage.

It honestly sounds like you're holding onto him mainly because you're scared you won't find anyone else if you break up. For what it's worth, I think you may well regret that. It's a waste of life to not give yourself the chance to be really happy because of fear.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 23/02/2020 12:47

I know my low self esteem means that I dont want to be alone

You have to learn to be alone first. This relationship doesn’t work for you anymore and you don’t want to bring kids into it. Don’t hold onto him because you’re scared... if you’d canned him off when he cheated, you might have met someone else by now!

I’m a similar age to you. My ex didn’t cheat, but he was crap and we shouldn’t have been together. I thought I loved him, I was just dependent on him. I didn’t have anyone else and I didn’t want to be alone. I desperately wanted to have kids like all my friends were...

I spent a year alone, met my now fiancé a couple of months later. We get married this year and I’ll stop the pill when we’re back from our honeymoon. He’s as excited as I am. He’s trustworthy and amazing. I’m stunned when I think back to how much I thought I loved the ex... it’s not comparable. I’ll have be having kids a lot later than my friends, who mostly have 2 or 3 now with the youngest kid in my circle now being 5... but they’re all excited for me anyway. Two are divorced. Life moves at different stages and rates, whoever you are, whatever your hopes are.

You want the family, not just a baby. And your partner seems feckless. He had plenty of chances not to cheat, to learn the lessons from his family members, and he didn’t. He’s not the type of man you want and you won’t have the family you’ve dreamed of with him.

It’s really hard, I’m not suggesting that it’s not, but you have to cut the cord, learn to be happy with yourself and rebuild. Not leaving him out of fear just guarantees that you won’t get the family you want, even if you do have kids with him.

Chamomileteaplease · 23/02/2020 12:54

I agree that you sound very sensible and with your feet on the ground.

I would also suggest counselling just for you to help you get over the rigid thinking that you seem to have regarding the age you should be when you have kids. I get that your friends are having them and it would be nice to do it together, but it seems your life is taking a different path.

I would certainly hope that you can find the courage to leave your boyfriend and make a fresh start. If you still don't like your job, could you give yourself a sabbatical and go abroad for a while. Get a new perspective on life. come home and hopefully meet someone new. Someone who doesn;t cheat on you!

i wish you all the best.

BumbleBeee69 · 23/02/2020 13:42

this sounds very messed up... OP I would be starting again with someone new... a clean slate... honestly this sounds way too complicated and you're not even married... consider it OP 🌺

MrsChanningTatum · 23/02/2020 14:07

Oh my goodness, I’ve had topical steroid withdrawal.... twice in my life. I’m 47 and I know how you feel, it’s a horrible thing to go through. Luckily the episodes were 22 years apart. I’m now on long term antibiotics which have got rid of it altogether. I have psoriasis.

Regarding your relationship, is there any way you could have a “break” and then finish with him? I did this in my early 20’s after an episode of topical steroid withdrawal. The bf I had at the time was so unsatisfactory. That coupled with my skin problem, I had no patience for him. He was gutted apparently..... but it was too late.

I’m happily married now. And I’m never using steroids again! I learnt the hard way, twice!

Good luck OP.

Notjustabrunette · 23/02/2020 17:59

On the bf front, I would leave him (and I’m normally a fan of working things through) but it sounds like you’ve tried and things aren’t any better. Yes break ups are hard, but your future will be better for it.
On the the baby front I had my first at 35 and 2nd at 37, my friend has just had her 1st at 40. I would also look into possible freezing your eggs.
I had a miscarriage with my first pregnancy, while working in an office full of pregnant women, one with the same due date as the one I lost. It’s completely understandable the way you are feeling.
Good luck, I hope things work out for you.

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