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Can a change occur in separation after 1 week

29 replies

Lou1913 · 21/02/2020 07:55

Married for almost 22yrs, happy and started out as a team effort marriage. I stopped working for the kids, whilst supporting and aiding his career. He said he could work better and longer hours knowing his kids were looked after by me.

Almost two years ago due to staff issues and as manager he started covering two roles. That’s when our relationship massively deteriorated.

A colleague, female, supported him, their working relationship became an intense friendship. She arranged an unofficial xmas overnight trip, my husband didn’t ‘sort’ a hotel in time so said he would share with her. It was him, her and a male colleague and wife going. At this point I calmly expressed my concern and discomfort at it all. He offered no reassurance and 4 days later I had a ‘lively’ text from her which told me she’d canx the trip - I aired it. This apparently caused her husband to beat her.

Since then my husband has canx our family NYE plans to go drinking with her, the male colleague and spouse. Delayed our Valentines date night as despite knowing he was leaving early. she turned up late to a meeting at work scheduled with him. Lied to me, moved to Snapchat messaging, flapped around her inside and out of work - she is allegedly a victim of domestic violence. Texts checking she’s ok, has she arrived safely when driving somewhere etc etc. At points I have urged him to keep it professional as so many red flags, including fellow colleague gossip. Unashamedly told me she stays cos there’s nothing in it.

All this left me so frustrated I could see how it looked from several angles and it wasn’t good. I was feeling totally worthless, neglected and effectively a pa/housekeeper and not a wife. His mindset was totally fixed.

During the months and months of this going on I kept asking for openness and honesty to help me understand but he kept elements of it secret....flowers for working hard, late evening Costas etc. He threatened to leave often.

She left the company last April but contact was maintained. 4/5 months later he also left the company. Contact was still maintained. Fun run commitment held. Her birthday was honoured, and her son’s. He even wanted to get her a present on her son’s birthday so she didn’t feel left out....something I am not blessed with when it’s our children’s.

I tried to accommodate this ‘friendship’ which was now down to more text/calls than 1:1. However every opportunity 1:1s were being suggested. Then she severed contact end of October - she said that I was disrespecting him and their friendship would have to be stopped. The message clearly demonstrated the depths of their conversations and was vile towards me. What she’d been told wasn’t quite the truth it was light on detail.

He has now started a new job but coupled with a new gym membership is home for an hour each day. I said I still wasn’t happy at the neglect and lack of priority shown to me/us. Yet the totally selfishness of prioritising himself 24/7. I also probed as something wasn’t right - they’ve been back in contact but although still innocent, in his wisdom he deleted all traces and lied... until I asked for about the 4th time. I knew something was off balance. He said he’s leaving....temporarily but taken everything.

On the day of leaving we went to watch our son’s football, he spoke about how much money I would get in % terms, told me I’d be snapped up. Said lying to me was easier than being honest. And all I have ever asked for is honesty. Upset I walked off in to the unknown in another county. I took 2 buses and a train home and he didn’t bat an eyelid.

Nearly two weeks separated now and he has told a mutual friend he loves me, misses me. He is speaking and making arrangements direct with the kids. Texts have been mainly business like from me to him - he does respond but is stalling on dealing with things.

In a text 3 days ago he said he missed me and loved me and indicated a change in mindset. A text last night laid out his feelings....forget going over old ground move forward, learn to love each other again. However, I need to make some offers to him... don’t know what they are. No mention of what he is offering to me either.....do/should I or can I even go back?

OP posts:
Liveandforget · 21/02/2020 08:18

No. Do not go back. He has treated you absolutely awfully. Please find your self respect and get some counselling for yourself. I'm willing to bet he doesn't miss you. He misses having a family set up with you managing everything. Free yourself from this awful man.

Beansandcoffee · 21/02/2020 08:25

I’m so sorry but do not go back to this man. If will be lovely for a while and then it will all start again. He isn’t nice to you and doesn’t treat you respectfully. Is this how you want your son to see an adult relationship. Tell him no and plan a life with your child. Get some hobbies and make new friends and have fun.

Purplewithred · 21/02/2020 08:30

After 6 months of separation maybe; but definitely don't rush back after just a few days.

He is discovering that the single life is not all it's cracked up to be (and very likely his other woman has decided to stay with her husband/turned out to be very different to his rose tinted fantasy).

All this talk of 'forget going over old ground' and 'you need to make some offers to him' is a way of avoiding discussing what went wrong and his role in that. It also indicates he doesn't want to go back to the relationship that you and he had before - so basically he wants the comfort of staying married but the happiness of a new relationship. Silly and unrealistic.

Reallybadidea · 21/02/2020 08:33

I'm astonished that you put up with all of that for so long and are now considering going back again! Where's your self respect?!

Reallybadidea · 21/02/2020 08:37

Sorry, that sounds really harsh, but he's treated you so badly and will probably continue to do so. Has he even said sorry?

Babooshkar · 21/02/2020 08:47

Never go back!!

WillYouDoTheFandango · 21/02/2020 08:55

Don’t take him back. He’s not offering to change. He’s not crawling on his knees admitting how shittily he treated you. He’s talking about giving you the opportunity to prove you’re worthy of him. This way anxiety, self loathing and a breakdown lies.

Don’t do the pick me dance. You know you didn’t cause this, he did, so why would you need to change?

Weffiepops · 21/02/2020 08:59

He doesn't miss you he misses having a wifey to do everything for him, he's feeling lonely. Do not take him back!

Liveandforget · 21/02/2020 09:02

Tell him you're offering... prayers of gratitude he's left you.

Honestly, him leaving you is the best thing that could have happened to YOU. You will see that soon.
Be strong and keep him gone.

Doyoumind · 21/02/2020 09:06

Why would you even consider it? Tell him to do one and build a new and happier life without him.

ravenmum · 21/02/2020 09:08

He's been having an affair, do you want him back?
I'd imagine that now he is "single", the other woman has made it clear that she is not actually interested in taking their relationship further, hence his sudden insight that he wants you back.

DowntonCrabby · 21/02/2020 09:09

Don’t go back OP, he doesn’t deserve you.

Flowers
Pinkbonbon · 21/02/2020 09:10

Hell no. Sod him! And I agree with pp, the other woman has backtracked or turned out to be not as rosey as he thought and now he is panicking. Keep him gone.

Flagg · 21/02/2020 09:11

Wow. You're, um...tolerant

TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 21/02/2020 09:12

Fuck no!!!!

HopeYouStepOnALego · 21/02/2020 09:16

I'm with everyone else here, I don't think you should have him back. If he wants to get back together he should be doing everything possible to apologise and show you how remorseful he is, not expecting to brush it under the carpet and for you to make changes - bloody cheek!

Most likely he's realising very quickly that the grass isn't actually greener on the other side and wants that housekeeper/admin person back. Respect yourself (because he doesn't) and move on with your life without him.

stophuggingme · 21/02/2020 09:19

That behaviour won’t go away in a week
I doubt it ever will

Why would you go back to a man that treats you this way?

glitterfarts · 21/02/2020 10:03

No. Do not take him back. I'd say he's seen a solicitor who has told him that you're likely to get the house, his pension and most of the assets.

Divorce him. Get a shit hot lawyer. Take him to the cleaners for his total disrespect and contempt of you.
He said it himself. Its easier to lie to you than tell the truth.
He's still lying. He's a cheat. He's untrustworthy. He's been gaslighting you for years.

Keep him gone. He chose this. Let him lie in his bed. Where's your anger?

thethoughtfox · 21/02/2020 10:20

No. I do believe, however, that a selfish man will do whatever it takes to make life easy and convenient for him. Things aren't how he had fantasised so he wants his cosy life back.

MashedSpud · 21/02/2020 10:28

He’s an asshole. Run for the hills.

Techway · 21/02/2020 11:31

Be honest with yourself..do you trust him?

MatildaTheCat · 21/02/2020 11:50

forget going over old ground

Convenient, huh?

I hope this doesn’t sound too harsh but if you take him back you will be making yourself ridiculous.

Good luck with a better life without this cheating idiot.

Lou1913 · 21/02/2020 11:58

At the time it was interspersed with i’ll Get home earlier...then she left and I thought that would make a difference...then he left and I thought it could be a new chapter....but really now I wasn’t tolerant I was foolish.....

OP posts:
SnoozyLou · 21/02/2020 12:03

I don't know how you can bring yourself to speak to him, let alone considering taking him back. So basically he's had an affair, and he and his tart have told you off about your poor attitude? He walked out and left, and now he's decided he wants to come back, but you will need to make some changes?

I'd make some changes alright. I know you have children together, so still need to communicate to some people extent, but I'd limit it to that. You have every right to be happy, OP. To be with someone who values and appreciates you. It isn't him though. He sounds like a nasty bastard to be honest.

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