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Would this be a deal breaker re sex

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lemmeavabru · 17/02/2020 22:20

Read the thread re small penis.

So been married 20 plus years and sex is absolutley shit. Has had ED dysfunction right from the get go, I think he has small penis, he has BO, bad breath and basically I'm not attracted to him.

so as per advice we've been doing things in the bedroom to improve things, me stimulating him, on top, fingers and a bit of fantasy on my part to make it work. He tries with the BO and bad breath but it still lingers and puts me off. We have a few dcs too. But after 20 years I feel I can't go on like this. There's also general disrespect towards me and coercive control which also made me rethink our whole relationship. It's so dysfunctional that I feel ashamed I let it get this far.

So I started talking to people about the coercive control and threatened to leave him. Things have started to change on that front. But I feel it's only because I've become cold towards him so he knows to tow the line.

But noone knows the real reason why I've become cold in the marriage. And if they do they kind of ignore it or fob me off. Generally they say 'oh that's rubbish isn't it?' or 'Have you tried being a bit more adventurous in bed?' or 'At least you're in a relationship. Think of all those single people.' 'Wow, you're so brave to prolong a relationship like that. God will reward you.' They also feel sorry for him. 'Oh that must be so hard on him. He must be really embarassed. He's got a heart condition. He shouldn't be stressed.' When I approach DH about it hr dismisses it. Says that I'm acting like 20 something year old. That I want it too much because I've lost weight. Says that doing it too often affects his heart. But he's happy to instigate it but then expects me to finish things off. Or if I'm not interested keep touching me to try turning me on or dry hump with a limp dick. I've become so numb that I don't even question it too often. I also think I'm a bit afraid to because he sulks if I say no. He won't go to the drs for ED becuase 'there's nothing wrong with me'.

I feel broken inside. Not only have I missed out on a satisfying sex life but also a romantic loving one. I feel broken inside. But I hate that I feel this way. I try to be grateful for all the good things but I still feel sad. But mostly I feel angry that noone cares about how I feel. When I was younger I used to think, like some posters on other threads that sex is not the most important thing, that women can be satisfied in other ways, but my experience is that generally it won't be enough in the long run. I find myself looking enviously at other loving couples and feel a deep emptiness.

I'm currently trying to find self love and putting all.sexual thoughts at bay. But the more I try not to think about it the more I do and it's affecting my mental health.

This thread is for anyone struggling with anything similar, because quite frankly, noone wants to know irl

OP posts:
lemmeavabru · 18/02/2020 10:47

You're right friendsofmine, I was happy getting the kids from him and thought that would be enough. But things change. I've changed. What I put up with when I was younger I can't put up with anymore.

When we had our 20 year anniversary, the thought of another 20 years of this filled me with dread. The other behaviour has improved but this hasn't.

Honestly, I'm still debating whether it's a good enough reason to leave.

OP posts:
mnthrowaway202020 · 18/02/2020 10:53

It certainly is a good reason to leave. Your happiness is important.

lemmeavabru · 18/02/2020 10:59

I think I emotionally checked out of our marriage soon after youngest was born. He did and said things that were unforgiveable and so I emotionally checked out of the marriage.

I constantly kept saying to myself that he's not emotionally or financially supportive, is a bully and is rubbish in bed, why am I still with him. I started saying the same to him bar the bedroom thing because didn't want to hurt his feelings.

But now I've started to tell him about these things and he just dismisses it.

OP posts:
RantyAnty · 18/02/2020 11:01

He sounds horrid.

For his bad breath, it's probably because of tooth decay and him not brushing properly. a dentist visit would sort that out.

His BO stink. He isn't washing thoroughly with lots of soap. Or wearing the same clothes again will absorb the stink yuck.

That aside. Work on figuring out your finances and a way to leave.

mnthrowaway202020 · 18/02/2020 11:04

I think you should speak to a solicitor just to explore your options. Once you become more familiar with the divorce process, it may be easier for you to make an action plan as you’ll have all the information available to make an informed decision.

Strawberry72 · 18/02/2020 11:15

I know exactly how you feel. I’m in a very similar boat and think I’ve had enough. I haven’t had sex with him in ten years.
Mortgage free now and nice salary means I am planning an escape this summer!!

lemmeavabru · 18/02/2020 11:23

@Strawberry72 well done. Sounds fantastic.

I think I'm also taking the long term approach in my head. Be financially stable, so financially splitting won't be so hard, Kids a bit more grown up and independent and I have a stable career.

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NoMoreDickheads · 18/02/2020 11:41

Of course it can be a dealbreaker- it would be to me fairly quickly. No one should feel they have to have sex that grosses them out.

The other stuff is worth spliting with someone over, too.

NoMoreDickheads · 18/02/2020 11:43

Even if it was 'just' the other stuff.

Bearski77 · 18/02/2020 11:46

Just wanted to say I feel the same. No sex for 9 years (well, it'll be 9 years in a few days time lol!) and my dh barely ever brushes his teeth. It's so bad they've started dropping out, and I can't be within a few feet of him. I haven't slept well for years as I am right on the edge of the bed, as far away as possible. When I first went to counselling, amongst everything else I told her about, she said the brushing teeth thing was enough reason to leave!! I always try to be kind and understanding, but fuck me, I deserve better than this! And so do you!!! x

lemmeavabru · 18/02/2020 12:00

Oh Bearski, I hear you. I feel my DH's problems are his deliberate neglect of himself. I'm not his mother but feel constantly guilty that I'm not looking after him. Like not cooking him healthy meals or ironing his clothes. I do cook and iron btw but I'm not a tied to the oven iyswim.

He used to make me feel responsible for everything going wrong in his life. He has a heart condition and often would comment that his heart problems were because I was stressing him out. I used to cry over these comments. But thankfully I know better and don't give a shit. He'll forget to brush his teeth, forget to take his meds, not have a shower if he doesn't go to work and not even use soap. I've bought him expensive perfumes and soaps but doesn't bother. If I remind him he thinks I'm a nag.

OP posts:
TeawithCakes · 18/02/2020 12:12

9 years in a few days time? Are you counting? Lol

TeawithCakes · 18/02/2020 12:13

We all deserve better ladies!!! Let’s run off!!

Bearski77 · 18/02/2020 12:16

@TeawithCakes Yes I kind of am counting! We conceived my youngest on 23rd Feb 2011, and absolute zero since then. The dates of both my kids conceptions are stuck in my head as that has pretty much been the only times we've done it, fml :(

Lifeisabeach09 · 18/02/2020 12:21

OP, head to the singles threads to see how much better life is being single than being in an unhappy, stressful relationship.

Kids a bit more grown up
It's easier to leave (on the kids) when they are younger than when they are pre-pubescent or teenagers.

AlternativePerspective · 18/02/2020 12:37

OP, your reasons for wanting to leave any relationship are nobody’s business but yours.

And tbh, there is too much expectation placed on the partners of those with health problems to stay because if they leave they fear they will be branded as some kind of bastard. But health problems aren’t a reason to stay. Relationships can break down for any number of reasons and while a heart condition can mean that there are some issues which he finds difficult it doesn’t mean that he gets to place all the responsibility of that on to you.

FWIW I have a heart condition and it has undoubtedly brought about changes in our physical relationship. These aren’t actually things I am able to do anything about for reasons I can’t go into, but equally I wouldn’t expect my DP to stay just because I have a heart condition, I want him to stay because he wants to be with me not out of some kind of obligation.

If you’re not happy, then leave. presumably if he’s receiving treatment for his health he will continue to receive that whether you’re there or not. And while stress can exacerbate some symptoms that doesn’t mean that you are obliged to stay or not challenge the issues as and when they arise.

TeawithCakes · 18/02/2020 13:00

Oh dear! That’s bad! You deserve better!

Wishihadanalgorithm · 18/02/2020 13:23

OP, what would you tell a friend if they shared this story with you?

My advice is the same as everyone else’s. Get yourself sorted financially so you know where you stand (ducks in a row) and then end it. There is no reason for anyone to have poor hygiene and that alone for me would make me end things.

I don’t think anyone has the perfect life but yours sounds so miserable and unsatisfying, OP. Freedom away form this man will be a revelation for you.

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