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Frustrated that he doesn't love me and feeling a bit led on

32 replies

lostmaiden · 17/02/2020 20:01

I have a friend that I've known for six years. Always been in love with him. Until three years ago, we used to meet up every few months as friends (we live in neighbouring counties) and we'd always end up acting like a couple eg. hand holding in public, going to restaurants, all the sex of course and we just got on really well. However, he never wanted a relationship, used to give reasons like I was too immature for him, until eventually he said that whilst he finds me attractive, he just didn't fancy me (which has to involve an emotional connection, he said, which he didn't feel for me).

We had a period of three years of not seeing each other, but we still messaged (though it was mainly me messaging and sometimes he wasn't very nice). I thought I was over him, especially as I had a boyfriend in the middle of that for over a year. Then we finally met up again in January, as I was going through a bad time and he apologised for being a shit friend all these years and that he did care.

We had a great time, he stayed overnight but nothing beyond a quick fondle happened. I assumed he wasn't interested and I didn't mind, I was recovering from a break up. Then after our meet I asked if I'd changed much blah blah and he said that I'd improved massively, that I was now mature and independent and basically all the negative things that had put him off before had now gone, and I was easier to talk to etc. He said that in the past, he had not realised how immature he was and that he had been scared of commitment and was ashamed of seeing someone from the internet (how we met, as friends). THEN, he admitted that he HAD fancied me in the past, with an emotional connection and feelings and everything. But he just pretended he didn't because it was easier than leading me on and hurting me if it didn't work out.

He came again for a couple of days a few weeks later, and things quickly got sexual (prompted by me). Then the day he left, I got upset because I finally plucked up the courage to ask him if he was interested, and he basically said that we live too far apart and it wouldn't be practical, and it wasn't a case of him not liking me enough. I said those were just excuses and don't stop people getting into relationships if they like each other.
He rang me the next day to apologise and admit that they WERE excuses, and he WAS interested.

So he came again on Saturday, another great time until the night time when I asked him if he had feelings for me. He got upset, and I got upset, and after stumbling around and dithering on words for ages, he eventually said that whilst he loves me as his best friend, and he thinks I am sex on legs and that we'd have a great life together and he has TONS of affection for me, he doesn't LOVE me. He said it hurts him because he WANTS to love me, desperately, but he just doesn't. He said when we have sex, he feels nothing, and he doesn't think that will ever change.

It was awful. I cried my eyes out. After finally getting over this guy, I thought he had been hinting that he wanted to try again, and I let myself feel for him again.

I almost feel angry because I don't understand how you can get on like a house on fire with someone, have such similar values, have the same visions for a future that would fit together perfectly, have amazing sex and have a great affection for each other.... but not LOVE that person?
He's an eccentric guy, who's not conventionally attractive and not at all like any 27 year old you would ever meet. That sounds awful, but I'm trying to say that he doesn't get loads of female attention. Even though he's a Doctor! Yet I love him so much, always have, and it seems I tick all of his boxes for a wife, apart from this magical 'love' box.

I don't get it!
Has anyone else been in this situation? How do you get past it? It is so upsetting and frustrating.

OP posts:
ComtesseDeSpair · 17/02/2020 20:08

You’re overthinking all of this. It doesn’t matter how or why - he just doesn’t want to be in a relationship with you. And whilst he hasn’t behaved wonderfully, I don’t think he’s led you on - it seems as though he’s been telling you for years that he likes whatever casual thing you have going on but doesn’t want anything else, and you’ve been desperately hoping that if you stick around long enough he’ll change his mind.

You need to cut contact. You don’t want to be his friend, really, and you’re just torturing yourself by letting it all drag on like this.

AgentJohnson · 17/02/2020 20:21

FWB is not a gateway into a long term relationship that so many posters think it is.

He didn’t and doesn’t want a relationship with you but unfortunately you were always waiting for that to change.

You had a role to play in your relationship dynamic with this man and you do yourself no favours in blaming him for your failure not prioritise your own MH during your relationship.

onaplanetthatsevolving · 17/02/2020 20:22

Are you both 27?

FritzDonovan · 17/02/2020 20:33

What would you tell a friend who had just related that sorry tale to you? Forget him? Hes not worth it?
You've tried so hard to have a relationship with this guy, when he has always been honest that it's not going to work beyond mutually convenient sex. You haven't been led on. But I do think it would be worth your while trying to figure out why you have persevered for so long, as thats a long time to be fooling yourself.

NurseButtercup · 17/02/2020 20:37

He said when we have sex, he feels nothing, and he doesn't think that will ever change.

Some men can be very very cruel.
He's not your friend.
He doesn't care about you.
He doesn't even like you.
Please block his number and protect your heart and your mental well-being.
Everytime you think about contacting him - remind yourself that he said those cruel words to you.
Please look after yourself.

OldWomanSaysThis · 17/02/2020 20:39

You should believe what he tells you. He's not interested. You are a sex opportunity for him. He's also probably some level of People Pleaser and feels guilty for using you for sex, so he hangs around a bit, tosses out a few nice things. But the reality is, if he wanted to be with you, he would. He doesn't, for whatever reason. Dump him.

Bluntness100 · 17/02/2020 20:43

Ah op, he's just using you to get laid. I'm sorry. He's been very clear, he doesn't wish a relationship with you. He will hang out with uou and shag you if that's what you wish but that's it.

I'm sorry, if you want more than this, which you do, then you need to end it, you'll just keep getting hurt. He's never going to feel what you want him to feel. Having sex with him won't change that.

onaplanetthatsevolving · 17/02/2020 20:46

If you are both 27 you were only 21 when you met and so very young. I do think you need to consider why you have fallen for someone without any real encouragement from his side and maybe talk to someone about it? You have lots of time to work it out and find the perfect person for you.

I don't think it sounds like he led you on. You have analysed what he has said and remembered it, but not taken on board how inconsistent he is with you. It isn't going to go anywhere unless he is clear about his feelings and consistent. A 27 year old doctor is fairly NQ and he will have a lot on his plate.

I would say let it go.

Fantasiaa · 17/02/2020 20:51

Some blunt facts:
He doesn’t like you
He doesn’t respect you
He sees you as simply sex / physical contact

Every time you return to him or message him you lose respect for yourself.

Honestly, he’s not worth. Any guy that would lead a woman who clearly likes them on like this isn’t worth your time.

Sorry Flowers

ElloBrian · 17/02/2020 20:56

OP, you’re going to get a lot of people dunking on this guy for messing you about. And I’m not saying they are wrong. But this is what happens in your 20s when you’re figuring out your life - who you want to be and what you want to do. Take it on the chin and move on. I know it hurts like hell. But this is a god sent opportunity to shed that phase of your life. He is not the one for you. Most of us (older folks Wink ) have a ‘one who got away’ and we think of him or her fondly occasionally but at the same time, the longer life goes on the more apparent it is that he / she was not the right person for us.

Move on, OP! There is a whole world ahead of you. Flowers

poopbear · 17/02/2020 20:58

The truth is you need to move on. Think about moving to a new job, start a course...go travelling...find things that will get you in contact with new people. He isn’t interested. Stop putting your eggs in his basket. Time to go find a new chicken

PumpkinP · 17/02/2020 21:03

Oh gosh, I don’t think he’s done anything wrong personally. He’s told you he doesn’t want anything and you keep hoping that will change.

rvby · 17/02/2020 21:47

He keeps telling you the truth but you dont want to hear it op.

Take him at his word, cut him loose, block him and move on. I know it hurts, but he is never going to give you the answer you want, no matter how many times you ask.

Also when you talk about him saying that you have "improved"! My eyes nearly rolled right out of my head. You need to give your head a wobble and start loving yourself more. Therrs nothing wrong with you. You dont need to improve ffs! That statement alone is ample proof that this is NOT the man for you, ever.

TaniaArse · 17/02/2020 22:00

Stop putting your eggs in his basket. Time to go find a new chicken.

Mixed-metaphor police are out to get you! (Although you're right.)

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 17/02/2020 22:02

Sorry OP he's not interested. I think it would be best to cut contact and move on. Hope you're okay

Commonwasher · 17/02/2020 22:18

You both sound confused.

He clearly likes you as a person, and you seem to be offering yourself (sex) on a plate — which it seems he cannot turn down, so he accepts then feels guilty as he doesn’t feel that way about you. And because ‘sorry I don’t feel that way about you but we had sex because you offered it and I have no willpower’ seems lame, So he showers you with compliments ‘it’s not you, it’s me’...

And you think ‘if I’m that great then why do you not want to be with me??’

Chalk it up to experience and don’t sleep with him again. I suggest not seeing him full stop. Pay yourself the respect you pay him. If he was genuinely that nice he wouldn’t sleep with you knowing you have feelings for him when he knows he doesn’t reciprocate.

Somone who comes up with lists of reasons why he doesn’t have feelings for you, is not ‘the one’.

You will be much happier free of him x

timeisnotaline · 17/02/2020 22:23

Cut contact. If he gets back in touch say I don’t think it’s a good idea, I’ve realised I’m actually pretty awesome and I don’t need to hang around people who don’t think that.

Pumpkinpie1 · 17/02/2020 22:26

There’s no future in this time to chalk it up to experience and move on

Justwondered12 · 17/02/2020 22:32

Oh op you need to cut him loose . You can do better and will feel better when he is gone .

Faith50 · 17/02/2020 22:34

You really need to cut contact.

I experienced this several times in my early 20's. Casual sex which never developed into relationships. Excuses from the guys as to why we could not go exclusive. It made me feel cheap and unworthy but I tolerated it due to the lack of love I had for myself. I even tried to convince myself I was using them too - deep down they were not willing to offer me more then sex.

lostmaiden · 18/02/2020 10:29

Thanks for the responses. I do think he gave me some mixed messages... I'll try not to reply to him for a bit, maybe get myself on tinder again ...

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ComtesseDeSpair · 18/02/2020 10:53

I think you heard what you wanted him to be saying to be honest. And it’s entirely up to you obviously, but I think Tinder is the last place you need to be right now. Your standards and boundaries for relationships don’t appear to be too great and it sounds as though you’re likely to end up in a similar situation again with someone else. People with healthy standards and boundaries don’t spend years letting themselves be picked up and put down by somebody who keeps telling them they don’t want a relationship. Have you got a good, blunt friend who you could talk to about all of this?

SVRT19674 · 18/02/2020 11:02

I think he has been clear. He wants fwb, you do not. You are not on the same page. Just call it quits and don't see him again as friends only works when both parties are not in love and just want the fun bits. It is not your case. Sorry.

ShatnersWig · 18/02/2020 11:16

Sorry, he's been clear. If that wasn't what you wanted, you should have stopped. You didn't. You carried on, presumably in the hope he would suddenly change his mind..

Put some boundaries in place. And you're not ready for dating if you've been six years in love with this bloke.

Bluntness100 · 18/02/2020 11:24

I don't think he did give you mixed messages op, I'm sorry, I think maybe that's your brain trying to justify your feelings, to place some of the blame at his door. He's been clear all along, but obviously tried to soften the blow by being complimentary, to minimise your hurt and let you down gently, but you've taken it as well why doesn't he love me then if I'm so great.

It's hard, when you feel for someone, but it's not reciprocated in th way you would like. Going no contact if you can't bear to be friends, some time to understand your own boundaries and needs in a relationship, and then dating other guys would be the way forward.

You can also tell him, it's not like he doesn't know, that you're struggling with your feelings so wish to go no contact for awhile