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The leaked phone call between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard

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SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 20:33

Has anybody listened to this? Shock
She twists everything, she will not / does not/ cannot hear a single point he is making and talks hard at him to NOT hear him, she takes no responsibility for losing her temper and screaming, she actually wants him to stay in the room while she's screaming at him and throwing things at him and is angry that he tries to get away from her while she's screaming and shouting at him.

She is gaslighting him because he caught her in a lie and she denies she said it even though there was a witness. Eventually she admitted the lie but then mocked him for being such a good detective, figuring it all out and makes him the aggressor and she's the victim.

He takes responsibility for his anger but she tells him his reason for leaving isn't valid. She doesn't worry about losing control at all and resents him for leaving the room. She is outraged that he removes himself from the situation.

She hits him and then abusively calls him a fucking baby for ''whinging about it'' later. Shock

Holy moly.

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Kirkman · 12/02/2020 20:39

Yep and yet a lot people are still saying its him. He manipulated her, he probably abused her but just doesnt say it on tape.

I think the abuse she dealt out was appalling. But also the fact that she positioned herself as a DV victim advocate, knowing she was dealing out that sort of abuse, is disgusting too.

As an abuse victim, I feel sick that an abuser has stood with victims.

SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 20:43

My xh was abusive and I recognised the way she talks at him relentlessly obfuscating but makes no cohesive point at all.

Occasionally he interjects to defend himself and then is instantly cast as the aggressor.

It is just abusive narcissism 101. Handbook. Classic Abuse.

If he's any sense he will run. for. the. hills. They don't have children.
Chalk it up to an error of judgement.

He's not the only one who got sucked in.

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custardbear · 12/02/2020 20:45

I've not seen much, but what I have seen is more
Inclined to think it's her who is the arsehole here - and my thoughts before I saw what I saw were productive for her ...

SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 20:46

Wow, quite sickening that she has worked with any support agencies for victims of abuse. If they have heard this dialogue, i hope they have nothing more to do with her.

It was exhausting to listen to it and I don't really know why I did it, but 12 years after leaving my x I can listen to this and kind of label the abusive tactics. which is good. Maybe some people would think ''get a life'' but it makes me realise that I can label of the abusive tactics now.

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Astrophyllite · 12/02/2020 20:47

No I hadn't heard it but right from the get go when they split and drama ensued I knew she had something to do with it and it wasn't what she was trying to sell the world... Seems that was right.

Not a huge fan of either but her less so, won't even watch anything she's in.

Kirkman · 12/02/2020 20:48

I think they are or getting divorced.

SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 20:52

Oh yes, I just realised that all of this was YEARS ago!
Phew!

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Interestedwoman · 12/02/2020 20:53

#Ibelieveher still. She sounds pretty bad as well, tho.

RositaEspinosa · 12/02/2020 20:55

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Cheeryandmerry · 12/02/2020 20:57

How did it come to be taped? I knew nothing about this!

Brazi103 · 12/02/2020 21:18

she is psycho

BrendasUmbrella · 12/02/2020 21:18

I agree she sounded worse in the tape. Perhaps because he was the one doing the taping and aware of it. Just as he looked a lot worse in the clip she filmed of him where he was shouting and smashing something.

I don't think either one is an innocent victim, and it's quite likely that neither is a monster either. Just two very flawed people who brought out the worst in each other.

SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 21:22

Yes, I did think about that, why was it taped, why was it leaked, did he plan to leak it to unmask her?

I'll try and find a link now. The one I listened to had a psychologist break things down so that might be boring for some people (and long!)

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TheOrangeFox · 12/02/2020 21:23

I'm with @BrendasUmbrella. The existence of one is not an exoneration of the other. He's come off badly in her recording and she in his.

It sounds like a deeply flawed relationship between two deeply flawed individuals who abused each other to whatever extent it is that we don't know. These are two recordings from possibly hundreds of instances of abuse.

SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 21:24

a list of youtubers cover this audio

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WoodliceInSunderland · 12/02/2020 21:28

There's another long thread about this, very interesting. I'll see if I can link to it but it's my first time so bear with me....

Kirkman · 12/02/2020 21:29

They taped all their converstations as paer of counselling, apparantly.

She was aware it was being taped.

WoodliceInSunderland · 12/02/2020 21:29

Amber Heard and Depp audio http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3811873-Amber-Heard-and-Depp-audio

WoodliceInSunderland · 12/02/2020 21:30

Hope that works.

WoodliceInSunderland · 12/02/2020 21:31

There is a link in that thread to the full audio recording, it's worth a listen. I didn't think I was that interested but I was glued to it, she is bonkers!!

SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 22:40

Ah right, didn't see that thread.

I find this interesting in a social psychology kind of way. I assumed that he was the predatory entitled wealthy older man BUYING youth and maybe that's what it was to begin with but wow he did not get what he thought he was getting I'm sure.

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YouNeedToCalmDown · 13/02/2020 02:28

Thank you for sharing this. I am shocked.

I believed her.

If you don't have time to listen to the whole hour, she admits to being the aggressor, for hitting him, hurting him and throwing things at him. It is disturbing.

Kirkman · 13/02/2020 05:37

#Ibelieveher still.

Which bits do you still believe?

Because the bruises on her face she released a photo of, were faked. Video and witness statement show she did not have them. Or do you believe her when she writes and article talking about how badly she was treated as a victim of DV and how it put her career at risk. The same article she calls for more support of DV victims, whilst she was abusing her husband. Faking Injuries, to destroy someone and to play the victim is abuse. So she was still abusing him after they split.

I have never been JD fan. I suspect the marriage was extremely toxic. However, the only evidence, so far, has shown she is the abuser. Very serious abuse. He lost the end of his finger.

I am genuinely interested when people say they still believe her, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

I wonder if he was the one that faked bruises, stood with DV victims and called for more support and then it turned out he had been throwing things at her, cut the end of her finger off caused bruises all over her body and admitted it all in tape whilst taking the piss if anyone would say 'I still believe him'.

Toomanygerbils · 13/02/2020 05:51

I haven’t listened to it all, but if you fast forward to around 25 mins it’s pretty appalling

YouNeedToCalmDown · 13/02/2020 06:16

I don't know why this isn't being covered by the wider media?

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