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Why do I get in abusive relationships over and over/doubting myself

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teaandtoast99 · 07/02/2020 08:15

It's a question I've been asking myself because all three relationships I've had, I've been told have been abusive, but for some reason I can't quite believe it, it's like there's a fog in front of my eyes all the time.

Trigger warning- discussion of abuse-

Relationship 1: When I was in my late teens I was in a relationship with an older guy. I was sexually and physically abused. I was thrown, hair pulled, strangled, kicked repeatedly, stamped on. Forced upon. He threatened to kill me. Called every name under the sun. Threatened to kill himself. Punched walls and doors. Cheated on me with several other women. Pathologically lied. Spread malicious rumours about me. Filmed him doing stuff to me and shared the video with a girl I was at school with. Eventually the relationship ended because he ran off with a women twice his age, got her pregnant while he was still with me.

Relationship 2. I was whacked across the face when I asked him to do something. I got a black eye. I was dragged to the garden and sprayed with cold water- it was winter- during a argument to "shut me up". I was forced to go to the gym/work out when I didn't feel like it/was too tired because he wanted a fit and toned girlfriend. Once I was physically dragged, as he was a big guy and could easily overpower me. He just said I was being lazy and he was doing what was best for me. (BTW, I was actually underweight for over-exercising at that point, i weighed about 7 stone). Once at a family gathering someone I hadn't seen in ages came in the room and I in stood up in excitement to go the them, he gruffly shouted "SIT. You stay here." Everyone in the room stared at us. Apart from that incident, no one around me would have believed he was treating me wrongly in any way. He was such a cheerful, amiable guy on the outside.

Relationship 3) The only one who never lay a finger on me. But he threw a laptop when he got angry, was cold and distant and sometimes went days without calling me. Criticized everything I did. Cheated on me. Behaved in a way which I now understand is called gas lighting.

My dad hit me several times when I was growing up and would "stonewall" - not speak to me or my mum for days when he was annoyed over something. Once he made my mum finish her plate even though it was too much and she ended up throwing up from over eating, he then called her a stupid cow.

Every one of these men have said there behaviour is normal and there's nothing wrong with them. I have never been able to leave a relationship of my own accord. I never recognized I was being treated badly, it's only a therapist who told me it's all abuse. Even when I was young and getting physically beaten and was covered in blood and bruises, it never once occurred to me that "this was wrong" and "I didn't deserve this".

My question is what the hell is wrong with me? I'm actually feeling scared and struggling to believe anything- myself and other people. Everything feels like a grey area, I don't trust any of my own thoughts, don't know why I'm like this and what I can do :(

OP posts:
MzHz · 07/02/2020 08:31

Nothing is “wrong” with you, but there is a vulnerability there that acts like a beacon to abusers.

As a result of your upbringing, you’ve developed boundaries that are lower than those of others. Your “normal” is and was abuse.

If you enrol yourself into The Freedom Programme (ideally in person) and do the course at least once, that’ll help you to see how different things could (and should) have been. If you can get some therapy on top, bonus.

There are lots of books and links to read on recovering from domestic abuse.

Start with “why does he do that” by Lundy Bancroft.

In short, if you can learn to see what’s happened to you was wrong, if you can learn to say no, to set and protect and enforce your boundaries that invisible beacon will vanish and you will not be targeted any more.

It’s a loooooong journey, but it’s absolutely worth it..

YOU are absolutely worth it.

You have got this, I know you have.

pallasathena · 07/02/2020 08:37

You've suffered serious trauma OP and as a consequence, you can't identify what is right and what is wrong regarding your own wellbeing.
If you were raised in an abusive household then that's your 'Normal'. You have no other road map in your life except that one.
Serious trauma such as you've suffered requires serious intervention and I would suggest that you begin to educate yourself. Contact Women's Aid. Sign up for their Freedom Programme. Buy 'Why Does He Do That?' and similar books. All available via Amazon.
Make a pledge to not get involved in another relationship until you've worked through this trauma and I would get some counselling too OP. You have a lot of work to do on yourself. Be kind and generous to yourself OP. You are worth so very much more. Flowers

crystalize · 07/02/2020 08:37

What a sad, sad story OP. It seems all you have ever known is abuse so you've grown up feeling that is all you are worth. I hope your therapy has started to help you recognise that it wasn't your fault and that with time, patience and kindness you can start to realise your worth and stop accepting abusive people into your life. Have they suggested the Freedom Program to you?

I'm sure there will be more knowledgeable people along soon to offer support.Flowers

ColaFreezePop · 07/02/2020 08:38

You need counselling to raise your self-esteem and to be able to have boundaries for people particularly partners. That way you will realise when you think your next partner's behaviour is abusive and will split from him asap.

LettyFisher · 07/02/2020 11:09

There's nothing wrong with you OP, but unfortunately, it's a pattern that people (including me) get into. Abusers can easily identify vulnerable (abused) people and abused people don't walk away when they should.

I had an abusive childhood, marriage and subsequent relationship - it's only with counselling that I have broken the pattern. I know of other people who are similar and don't walk away from relationships that are quite patently horribly abusive right from the start. It's not at all rare to be in this pattern and a therapist will recognise that.

Can you afford therapy? I promise you that it works and you will get through the other side . You will learn to set boundaries, and recognise what a healthy, loving relationship is like.

RuffleCrow · 07/02/2020 11:18

If you question the behaviour of an abusive man he will always tell you his behaviour is fine and normal and you're the crazy one. That's the first rule of abusive men.

If you're delegating your own personal sense of right and wrong, good and evil, you will always,find someone willing to take that on for you, and they will always be abusive opportunists.

You need to get yourself to a place where you've had enough therapy and done enough reading that you are 100% sure in your own mind of what constitutes acceptable behaviour and what doesn't. Then the red flags will be waving before you even think about getting into another relationship with a bastard.

Some resources: The Freedom Programme.
Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft.
Toxic Parents by Susan Forward.

Thelnebriati · 07/02/2020 11:48

Here are some resources you can make a start with;

The Freedom Programme - you can do it online but its best for you to join a group.
freedomprogramme.co.uk/index.php

Assertiveness training - you can get books but again its best to practice in a group.
emmaashford.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Learning-to-be-assertive-workbook.pdf

Red flags of abusive relationships;
newdirectionsshelter.org/red-flags-of-abusive-relationships/

Lundy Bancroft - Why Does He Do That?
tinyurl.com/LundyWhy

The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker
tinyurl.com/GiftoFear

Dozer · 07/02/2020 11:51

Is your therapist good? Hope so? That could help a lot.

Don’t date for a good while, while you work on this. Posters have put links to resources.

hellsbellsmelons · 07/02/2020 11:57

Oh OP this is so so sad to read.
Unfortunately your upbringing means that your 'normal' is not normal at all. But you just don't know any different.
I'm glad you have some counselling.
You are starting to realise this is all abuse.
You've got a lot of good recommendations.
Read them all and do the Freedom Programme soon.
Attend in person if you can.
No-one deserves what you have been put through.
No-one at all!!!
We all deserve love and respect.
Stay single for a while.
Do some good work on yourself.
Do a lot of reading.
Ensure you tell your therapist that you may well be suffering PTSD and get treated for that.
Rape crisis may also be a good call.
I want to give you a massive hug.

75Renarde · 07/02/2020 12:08

Agreed with PTSD.

This will help. Narcsite.com

I'm so sorry OP. Flowers

Are you in a relationship now?

Pollaidh · 07/02/2020 12:18

It's not your fault. It sounds like you've never seen a positive relationship, even as a child. So how could you grow up knowing what a good relationship looked like? It's trained you to set your expectations very very low.

It all sounds like all these awful things that have happened to you have given you a low sense of self-worth, so you don't believe you deserve better, even if you knew what 'better' looked like.

There are excellent suggestions above, take time out of relationships until you know your own worth. Work with your counsellor, read those books and do the Freedom Programme. Hopefully afterwards you will get the good relationship you deserve.

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