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Help with possible cheater... 🙏🏻

48 replies

imissgin · 31/01/2020 15:01

Hi so a bit of background first,

I met my partner 2 years ago whilst at work. I was single he was in a non-committed relationship. We got together things moved pretty fast. Fast forward and we have a 5 month old DS.
He’s always been hugely possessive. I’ve had to change email, phone number and he’s blocked a lot of people from my Instagram. I’ve had to delete facebook and snapchat. If I do much as glance in the direction of another man I get accusations of me fancying him and I want him. He wanted me to cut of my best friend and this caused endless rows. I don’t return his behaviour. If he wants to go out with friends I encourage it, I want him to see I trust him so he should trust me, I literally say stay safe and have fun. He keeps his phone hidden a lot and takes it to the toilet all the time. I didn’t think much of it, usually I hear him watching videos on performance cars and know he sometimes uses going to the toilet as a bit of an escape. I don’t got through his phone. I know his unlock code but not any passwords and have honestly never felt the need to snoop.

So a few days ago it was late and DS was asleep. I was googling something on his phone from my phone IYSWIM. So I had both phones in my hand. As I’m googling he receives a message on Instagram from a girl whose name I don’t recognise. The message said “it’s not that bad”. He looked a bit sheepish and said he didn’t know her. I still had the phone in my hand at this point so I replied “whats not that bad?” I said if it’s just a random then she’ll reply accordingly. I clicked on her profile and they both follow each other. I asked about this and he just parroted the same line about not knowing her and it must’ve been a random add. At this point he declares he needs the toilet (despite going only about 10 minutes before). He snatches the phone from my hands and takes it to the toilet. He comes back 10 minutes later and I asked if there was a reply. He says “yeh she said it was a mistake and I deleted the messages.” Why would he delete the messages if it proved it wasn’t anything. I also asked him this and he said he just did it without thinking.
So I thought this was a bit fishy. I asked him to block her on Instagram as she might be trying it on and I didn’t trust her. (Yes I know I sound as bad as him now but I wanted to see his reaction). He pulled a face and said he was sick of being interrogated about to and she didn’t need blocking. I pushed it again and he did it in a huff. Although he did ask if he could just unfollow rather than block. I asked him to block and he got pissed off about. Anyway the next day I ask if he’s got her on Facebook. He said no but I had to ask him to speak up as he was mumbling. Almost like if he ever got caught he could deny saying no. He said no clearly and promised me and again I got the whole Guilt trip about not trusting him. This was in the morning. We go out and about take DS swimming, pop out around town and come home. I decided to text my best mate who said they’d see if they could find anything on Facebook as I don’t have it. (Something didn’t sit right). About 7pm on the evening he send me a screenshot of this girls Facebook. She’s change her profile picture that same day at 7am and he’s gone and liked it!
I suspect they know each other from work. His employer has asked him to do nights recently. I used to know all the other colleagues at his previous place of employment and can’t think where else he’d know her from.
I’m guessing he’s messaging her on Facebook now but I’ve no way of knowing.
So do I confront him now with what I have? He’ll deny everything and there’ll always be a sense of doubt that I was being paranoid and overreacting and threw everything away for nothing. Or do I wait to try and find more evidence? If so how? He never leaves his phone unattended. Ever. I thought about confronting him with what I had then demanding his phone and sending her a “test message” if you like from his profile.
I don’t know what to do Sad. Ideally I’d like more proof but struggling with how to come up with it. He’s not the type to confess even if I push him.

OP posts:
Onthemaintrunkline · 31/01/2020 18:47

You get one crack at this life, do you honestly want to spend under his domination. He is what he is, an arrogant, untrustworthy controller.

URPS · 31/01/2020 18:49

Him cheating is the last of your problems.

Why are you with this cunt ?

pooopypants · 31/01/2020 18:55

why are you with this cunt?

This. In buckets. Get the hell out of dodge OP, he's abusing and controlling you and you're allowing your child to see it on a daily basis.

billy1966 · 31/01/2020 19:00

Please read @Haffiana again.

Just awful OP.

Sherazade · 31/01/2020 19:11

I don’t come from a broken home and my parents are very much happy and still together.
Can we just stop it with this now it's 2020 and walking away from misery or abuse does not break anything up.
It doesn't matter if he's cheating . You already know he doesn't commit . What matters is that he's exerting coercive control over you and you're too worried about the stigma of being a single parent to do anything about it .

MsDogLady · 31/01/2020 22:13

You are not giving your son a healthy home. You are giving him a toxic home. He is exposed to a bully of a father who abuses and dominates his mother.

And yes, he is cheating. He blatantly lied twice about the OW in question. You don’t feature on his social media because he wants to appear single.

You need to walk away from this loser.

12345kbm · 31/01/2020 22:35

OP please get an STD test as god knows what he's riddled with. Untreated STDs can cause lots of long term problems such as infertility and cervical cancer so please organise that as soon as you can.

You've never been in a monogamous relationship with this man. He started seeing you when he was in a relationship and he is with you and continuing that pattern. The reason he doesn't want you on social media is 'projection'. He's projecting what he's doing onto you. He's obviously meeting women on social media and you've seen evidence of that.

He's hideously controlling OP. You sound as though your self esteem was very low when you met and you kept trying to prove you were worthy of him. That's how you've found yourself in this situation now.

There are soooo many red flags in your post of an abusive relationship that it's like watching a slow motion car crash. You need to do something like the Freedom Programme so you understand the different between a healthy and unhealthy relationship and can spot red flags.

You need to start making your exit strategy. National Domestic Violence Helpline – 0808 2000 247

imissgin · 02/02/2020 13:39

I confronted him. He denied everything. Every last bit until I presented him with the evidence. Then he had the cheek to ask how I knew and accused me of being deceitful because I wouldn’t tell him?! Wtf.

@beckywiththeshithair20 I actually quoted your shit reference.

It’s just the cheek of it. They were arranging dates. Sending kisses.

I told him to get out and go to his moms. I’ve text his brother just to say let me know he gets home ok (it’s a 40 minute drive and he was In a state when he left, I don’t need a car crash on my conscience too) I just don’t know where to go from here. Sad

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 02/02/2020 13:51

Keep him out. You picked a bad one there but it's not too late to find a decent guy

That one is an abuser

FixTheBone · 02/02/2020 13:55

2 words.

Coercive. Control.

You need this man out of your life.

SquareOnTheHypoteneuse · 02/02/2020 14:03

Stay strong, make sure he stays gone. You can do much better than this controlling relationship.

Frenchw1fe · 02/02/2020 14:03

Don't take him back. Ever.
You and you're baby are better off without him.
Also your lovely parents will be a good example of a 'normal' relationship until hopefully you have one of your own.

TheHouseWithTheBambooDoor · 02/02/2020 14:07

Wow, well done OP!!! WineFlowers

category12 · 02/02/2020 14:11

He denied everything. Every last bit until I presented him with the evidence. Then he had the cheek to ask how I knew and accused me of being deceitful because I wouldn’t tell him?! Wtf.

DARVO Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender = classic abusive tactic.

Pumpkinpie1 · 02/02/2020 14:18

I just hope you have the conviction to kick him out for good.
He’s no good for you and your son, you deserve better.

Don’t forget to get your self checked out for stds ASAP it’s not worth putting your own health at risk because of his behaviour x

salsmum · 02/02/2020 14:56

I have a friend who met a married man when she was very young and he was mid 30s ( think late 70s) she was smitten and eventually he left his wife and family to date her. Ironically he was possessive and very controlling and all the while shagging anything that moved.. he is still probably doing the same and will to the day he dies. She is out of the relationship quite a number of years later.

Buffythebuffetslayer · 02/02/2020 14:57

I made the mistake of letting a controlling ex back over and over. His controlling and possessiveness just slowly got worse and worse. Couldnt believe how my life changed for the better when I finally changed the locks! It was hard, and scary but worth it all the way. I think you've had a lucky escape!

Oxfordnono12 · 02/02/2020 17:59

Why aren't you trusted yourself? You know there is something going on. It's a big RED light right in front of you.

You have let him take full control of your life!

TheStuffedPenguin · 02/02/2020 18:08

I was single he was in a non-committed relationship

Yeah I met one too - turns out he was married . This feels you all you need to know.

TheStuffedPenguin · 02/02/2020 18:09

tells

ToastandCheese · 02/02/2020 18:59

Being on your own is better than bringing your child up in a toxic environment with an abusive and controlling partner. Think about the influence he is having and the example he’s setting.

Don’t take him back.

anotherdisaster · 02/02/2020 19:29

Well done on getting him out OP. Please prepare yourself for the begging and excuses. He's an abuser and they don't accept rejection easily. You've taken his control away and he won't take that lying down.
Please stay strong. You deserve so much better.

Pumpkinpie1 · 06/02/2020 17:39

Hope your ok and staying strong?

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