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Violent aggressive behaviour from a tinder date

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McD45 · 30/01/2020 16:33

Hi, I have recently become single since October last year and thought I would try online dating as some of my friends have had some good luck on it and some married off from there too. So thought, ok give it a go!

I wanted to share this experience incase anyone comes up against someone similar to warn you and I am still pretty shocked and freaked out from internet dating since, but wont give it up completely just yet.

I dated a guy who is 4 years younger than me, (aged 40) lived about 30mins away and seemed normal. He was fit, funny, pretty cool and lovely to look at too and we seemed to share the love of the outdoors, more so hiking and the gym, dogs and travelling, which was spoke about a lot.

End of December he texted me a few days before saying, shall we go out on a date, I thought yes why not, we seemed to get on really well. We met locally to me, in a local pub to which seemed fine, but he was 15mins late and hardly found the place, only for me to nearly leave and hate to say no reception where this pub was too. Off to a bad start already?!? lol

However the date was one of the best I had been on, really fun, we laughed all night and got on like a house on fire and I couldnt wait for the next. The attraction was unbelievable to say the least!

What came next was unexpected. Apparently he was seeing one of my old school friends for about a month, he said, but really it was since March last year, on and off, so nearly a year once I spoke to my friend. He told her he couldnt see anything going forwards, but she was hoping there was more, she admitted she could never work him out but did admit he never mentioned to her commitment etc.

From that we were still in contact but I didnt hear from him in 3 days after the 2nd date, 3 days later he was very angry, to the point of saying I was rude not texting him when I got home, I was this, I was that, thought it was funny with his smiley faces and told me to lighten up and that he was joking, only for me to tell him to chill out, to which made me think why is this guy so angry, so upset and so strange in the way he is acting like he needs to get his own way or immature. It was at this point I thought, ok time to pull away.

He soon contacted again and we met up twice after this and I told him, to chillout, he said he had never had these feelings for anyone before, normally its a case of him not really liking anyone or there is something wrong with them, but he tells me that he likes everything about me and it scares him. He says I am or felt, out of his league and had so much going on for me it was a surprise I would like him. We had different back grounds but we were into the same things. However I gave him another chance after the initial anger and told him again to chill and that I would like to get to know him but worried about this other side to him or shall we say thought he was rather angry.

We went to the local pub to him and met up with some of his friends, we had a great night, everything went well, a few glasses later, not really drunk and we all head back to his for a chillout. However I tell him, I cant stay as I have dogs, which is true and secondly not quite ready to do anything as still getting to know him which was indeed true. He said that I could stay and he would get up early with me to walk the dogs but I still said no. We kissed, we cuddled but said ok time to go. As I was leaving he was, how can I say, moody! I said to him whats wrong, only for him to say its your rules or nothing! I said I am not too sure what you mean, he said it doesnt matter.
I said look, I am not looking for a quick fling, I want to get to know you hence going home and lets catch up over the weekend. He still stormed off.

On the way home was the shocker....

5 very long texts later, I receive messages hurling abuse at me calling me arrogant, I must have lipstick marks on the mirrors as I love myself so much (not sure what he was going on about with that) and just carried on hurling out all sort of nasty comments, for me to say enough. I didnt reply and that was me done with him but it didnt stop there.

The next day, saturday day time, I was with my family, and he tells me he isnt feeling too well, he only had a few beers, and that he wants to go for blood tests, but I still didnt reply as wasnt too sure what he was going to say next let alone where this was going.

That night, or more like early the next morning, just as I was getting up ready to walk the dogs, my car has been moved. Yes, the car had been moved backwards, with a nail in each tyre to which two had to be replaced, not only that but there was a message on the window saying what were you thinking you f*ing c**t! He had vandalised the car by hammering these very long nails into the tyres and also abuse too.

My first reaction was who could this be, then no with that note, it was him.

I contacted the police and they explained to me his ego must have been damaged and he didnt get his own way with you so his revenge was brutal and very evil indeed which it was to say the least and completely shocked me.They said if he contacs again, let them know to which I will do....
I have dated men who are somewhat rude at times but not to this level. We had a conversation this last time around about his behaviour and he said he gets insecure/worried and more so with me as he hasnt felt this way, but this I would never believe anyone would do or behave like and completely freaked me out.

I havent heard from him and this was last weekend, so fingers crossed I never do again!

OP posts:
McD45 · 30/01/2020 17:08

FenellaVelour - think I will do something out the back, at the moment there are now sensor lights and solar lights next was thinking CCTV cant believe I have to resort to this. Here is hoping he is never in contact again, I feel he wont, dont think he would dare, would he???

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Aquamarine1029 · 30/01/2020 17:08

I would be putting up cctv, absolutely. Take this very, very seriously.

Aquamarine1029 · 30/01/2020 17:10

I feel he wont, dont think he would dare, would he???

Look at what he's already done. After just a couple of dates, ffs. I think he's capable of anything. He has already proven himself to be a violent man.

Oulu · 30/01/2020 17:11

Can't the police investigate the damage to the car properly? There may be CCTV and/or fingerprints.

Namechange8471 · 30/01/2020 17:12

Is even stay with friends for a few days op

McD45 · 30/01/2020 17:17

My family live 2 mins up the road from me, all my neighbours have been informed by the police and my friends nearby are aware too through this so I am blessed with some great people nearby, but I wont lie since this happened my house has been lit up everynight indoors, all lights on at the back and now CCTV will be no doubt installed. I use to love living here as only moved in October last year. So havent been here long and now this?!?! You are right Aquamarine god knows what he is capable of and he has already done in a short space of time...!

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YasssKween · 30/01/2020 17:20

I'm really surprised the police haven't said they

I would personally call the Suzy Lamplugh Trust as they deal with stalking and focus much of their efforts on early intervention and preventing escalation. This is a hugely quick ramping up from verbal abuse to physical criminal damage.

I was stalked longer term so different circumstances but they were invaluable and even helped me communicate with the police about it and they were then fantastic.

I would also ask the police for a Clare's Law search. I don't know if they will consider it appropriate in this circumstance but they can take a look and if they feel it's relevant and important can disclose if previous police contact with him indicates a pattern of activity.

I say this gently but you are under reacting a little if anything. I don't mean that to scare you but this is such abnormal and aggressive behaviour with such quick escalation that you do need some extra support with this rather than hoping that's it.

Hopefully it won't escalate but it's not really worth the chance.

virginpinkmartini · 30/01/2020 17:20

Lol if you said nasty words on the internet to someone then no doubt you would have the police calling you to at least 'check your thinking.'
Too early to do anything? When is it the right time then, when he's actually attacked you?

YasssKween · 30/01/2020 17:21

Sorry that was meant to say:

I'm really surprised the police haven't said they will be taking this seriously by investigating further - it's got such high markers of escalation.

Branleuse · 30/01/2020 17:27

do you think crimestoppers might help if police are useless. Is there any way of finding out more about him?

I think there must be a way of getting this on record. He sounds dangerous

McD45 · 30/01/2020 17:28

YasssKween - thank you, your help is of great value I will contact them, I guess I am not over reacting as hoping it wont happen again and my family ie parents are not overly reacting either and saying if it happens again then thats another story....what is good is Tinder are in contact addressing this guy to chuck him off the site....there is a side of me which but I will contact Clare's Law and I do think it would be important to do a search on him to see what his record is like in the past, but will ask them to help....thank you, I will start looking into this more, Tinder is the first start, police and now Clare's Law!! thank you.

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forumdonkey · 30/01/2020 17:28

That's so scary and I'm sorry that you're going through this. I really can't believe the police say that they can't do anything!

A lesson to many - don't disclose your address until you know them well.

On a positive OP I met my wonderful man on Tinder and nearly three years later, I'm the happiest I've ever been.

McD45 · 30/01/2020 17:39

forumdonkey - aww you found a good one!! you are lucky indeed, yes never again and now so cautious its unbelievable.....!!!

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McD45 · 30/01/2020 17:41

Branleuse - since this post I am looking further into, also Tinder are getting rid of him and warning him, just like another site apparently, so thats two down, the police I will ask about his history and Clare's Law tomorrow so you have all helped me, he needs to get shot of and warned as he has obviously got away with for too long...!!

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wobblywinelover · 30/01/2020 18:05

I'm sorry you've had this experience OP. I gave up OLD because of the amount of unhinged men on there. I don't mean to put you off but the sites are littered with psychos, people in relationships already, serial cheats and stalker types. Had several bad experiences myself. A lot of them are on there for dodgy reasons, not because they're genuinely nice and single sadly. Keep yourself safe and don't end up with a stalker like I did!

YouJustDoYou · 30/01/2020 18:19

That's frightening 😥

Ferretyone · 30/01/2020 18:26

@McD45

The sad thing is that while you believe that he was responsible the UK police/CPS would likely take the view that this was nowhere near enough to arrest him.

I note the reference to "blood tests" - are you in UK? What contagion does he fear? Just feeling a bit rough does not get you NHS blood tests! Shock

Troels · 30/01/2020 18:33

If you can afford it, I'd not only get CCTV but get motion activated dash cam front and rear view. Stay safe.
Have you asked the friend of yours who he dated on an off what he was like with her?

AngelsSins · 30/01/2020 18:39

I note the reference to "blood tests" - are you in UK? What contagion does he fear? Just feeling a bit rough does not get you NHS blood tests

Just a guess but I imagine he said that in the hope OP would engage in conversation with him and he could blame his behaviour on being spiked or some such shite.

FabbyChix · 30/01/2020 18:47

He sounds like he has bpd and was splitting on you. He took your not staying as rejection he couldn’t control himself if he tried it he has bpd

forumdonkey · 30/01/2020 18:53

@AngelsSins, that was what I thought too. He was going to blame his behaviour on being spiked and have no memory of his vile angry rants.

On the whole, most of the men I met were quite normal. There was one or two that were a bit off 😬😳 but I ended it after first date, so don't let it put you off OLD entirely. Watch for red flags and intense messaging.

Frownette · 30/01/2020 19:03

He's a psycho, but I'm surprised the police weren't more helpful.

Hopefully that's an end to it and there won't be anything further. Frightening for you though OP

lmnoh · 30/01/2020 19:26

Thank you for sharing your story .....very brave of you.

I only meet men via OLD these days, seems to be the only way, and there isn't any way to tell if they are a little unhinged until you're right in the middle of it it would seem.

I hope you are managing to put the whole terrible happening behind you and I wish you well xxx

Hadtoask · 30/01/2020 19:44

You are in your 40s? This is a lot of drama. I would run at the first sniff of this madness. I hope the police can help.

Namechange8471 · 30/01/2020 20:45

Try googling his name op

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