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New man...red flag or something else? Anyone else have a relationship start like this?!

43 replies

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:27

Been seeing a new man for about six weeks. Meeting up has been regular (once, sometimes twice a week), he’s very respectful. We’ve not done the deed as I like to wait (just personal preference!), he’s been totally ok with it, no red flags there. We’ve had lots of other intimacy. I should also say that I’m quite picky...I had dates all the time then I met him and something made me think actually I like this one! So I’ve been feeling pretty certain about wanting to see him again and again.

On Friday we’ve ordered a take away and I don’t know how or why I brought this up but I asked when exactly he broke up with his ex. It was in passing and just came into my head. He said it had been the start of October last year. This has taken me by surprise somewhat as it meant we started dating 2.5 months after they broke up. For some reason I had thought it was a little longer ago. I told him this and he was concerned he had misled me in some way. I said no he hadn’t, I don’t think we’d even spoken about it properly.

Anyway this then led to a broader chat about how it ended. He said they’d been together 18 months in total (I knew this as it had come up at the very start when we met). They lived together for four of those months. And here’s the thing... he said she ended it and although he knows it was right, he struggled with it for a while and wanted her back...and said that feelings don’t just turn off and maybe a lot of it was hurt ego (he laughed). All this I get, but obviously left me a little lost.

To be clear this conversation was a nice one, an adult one. He said he wanted to be honest with me and that he really liked me and wanted to continue seeing me. He asked how I felt and that it was down to me if this conversation made me feel differently and that he hoped it didn’t. I asked directly if he wanted to get back together, he said he had when it first happened but now it’s different, time has passed, she’s made herself clear and now he’s met me that makes it different too and that he knew he wanted to keep seeing me. I asked if they spoke, he said the last time was about 8 weeks ago but he’d have to go and collect a couple of things from her place soon that he had left. He said he’d be sad if we stopped meeting and even if we met on a platonic basis, he’d be willing to do that for a while, although that wasn’t his preference as he liked how things were. (Like I say there’s been no sex). I know he’s not had loads of relationships or long term ones (very career focused) so I think this hit him hard for that reason too.

I’ve been thinking about this and wonder if it’s best to say let’s stop speaking for a month and see how he feels then, when there’s more distance from his break up. Part of me thinks that’s best. The other part of me will certainly miss him but then what’s a month in the grand scheme of things... just to be sure he is in the right headspace?

I want to do the right thing here as I really like this man and it’s taken me a good few years to find someone I like (I’m 34 too so don’t want to waste time!). As much as I want to keep seeing him and something tells me this is different with him, another part of me thinks hang on, are we potentially ruining something that could be good by doing this when he’s not fully ready? We all have baggage and I’m not likely to find someone who doesn’t! But I just wonder if the brakes need to go on for a few weeks...or am I making a big deal out of nothing?!

What would you do?

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HulksPurplePanties · 20/01/2020 09:31

Listen to him. He says he's ready.

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:33

He said he’s ready but that ‘feelings don’t turn off.’ And that if she wanted to get back together it would ‘make it difficult now as he’d met me.’

Those things have made me wonder if his whole mindset is on seeing how we go, rather than also navigating past feelings for someone else?

I’m known for looking for problems though.

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LetsPlayDarts · 20/01/2020 09:36

It sounds to me he is just being completely honest with you. No red flag from my point of view. Most people come out of relationships still with some element of feeling...that's completely normal.

If you're waiting to start a relationship with someone with zero feelings towards anyone else, you'll be waiting a long time. Plus, if wasn't a particularly long relationship so 2.5 months wouldn't really worry me.

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:38

Letsplay I did think that it wasn’t that long. It’s long for him though.

He said she was adamant she didn’t want to get back together. He definitely was honest about the fact he didn’t want it to end.

Guess it’s just made me feel a bit insecure. Not that he doesn’t like me, but that I’m being compared to someone he has residual feelings for?

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AnnaSparks · 20/01/2020 09:38

All you can do is trust him until he gives you a reason not to.

By the sounds of it he is being as honest as he can possibly be, even if it’s not necessarily what you want to hear. That would be a big thumbs up from me. Yes, it’s not ideal that he was recently with his ex and she ended it with him BUT he may well be over it. What’s the worst that happens if he’s not? Your pride is a tiny bit hurt. What about if he is and you put the brakes on? You’ve potentially lost someone great.

As long as you keep taking things slowly for the time being, and be clear with your feelings and boandaries ofer the ex, then go for it.

Unfortunately in the dating game you can’t protect your feelings all the time. You just have to be strong, take things slowly, and like I said before - trust them until they give you a reason not to.

HulksPurplePanties · 20/01/2020 09:40

I think what he's saying is perfectly normal. Feelings don't just turn off, he's completely correct about that. So if someone he'd been with for 18 months, and broke up with 4 months ago came to him and wanted to get back together, I can see why he would have to have a serious think about it. After all, they had a serious relationship for 18 months, and you've been dating for 6 weeks and haven't even had sex.

I think it would be weirder if he said he was so into you after 6 weeks that he wouldn't even consider it at all! That would be a red flag for me.

As it stands he's being completely honest, telling you he's developing feelings for you, and wants it to keep going...

hellsbellsmelons · 20/01/2020 09:40

Not red flags as such.
But I'd take things very slowly for a good while.
He's been totally honest and he sounds like a good communicator.
I would want to know what went wrong after 4 months of living together though!!???

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:41

Thanks Anna.

My gut tells me there’s no prospect of them getting back together.

I think it’s the idea that maybe he’s filling a hole a bit with wanting to see me. I did ask this and he said absolutely not, he wanted to see me and it wasn’t about just anyone.

I think the thing I’m finding hard is feeling like he does have residual feelings. I don’t like that! Am I being immature and unrealistic?

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LetsPlayDarts · 20/01/2020 09:44

It's been six weeks so try not to overthink things.

When I met my DP I remember that awful time of insecurity. Will he go back to his wife? (I wasn't the OW). Is he dating someone else? Are we exclusive? Etc, etc.

I just rolled with it in the end. I wanted to discuss it more but then realised that we were both having fun and I just had to put faith in him and my judgement of him.

What would be worse is if he was feeling/had felt these things and not told you. He sounds open and honest and moving forward that's what you deserve.

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:44

Hells he said they clashed over day to day things like how tidy it was (she was apparently messy)... basically things like that so nothing major.

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Glitterb · 20/01/2020 09:44

Why would you stop seeing him for a month?
He hasn’t lied about anything and of course he will still think fondly of her but he has also said he is happy with you.
6 weeks is very early days so just enjoy it!

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:46

Yes he’s definitely been open and honest. Just part of me feels like he is sad about this last relationship. Does that matter? Am I second best? Are these usual things to think?

I could just ignore all of this and focus on our next date Grin

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WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:47

glitter I thought if I stopped seeing him then he might be completely over it later down the line?

I did sort of suggest this during the chat and he said obviously it was my decision but it’s not what he wanted.

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pinkyredrose · 20/01/2020 09:48

Looks like you're making a mountain out of a molehill. How will you react when faced with a real problem?

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:49

pinky fair comment!

I’m usually pretty strong minded but for some reason I feel quite defensive that he may be using me to get over her?! How can I know for sure?

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IM0GEN · 20/01/2020 09:49

You are over thinking . It’s only been 6 weeks. It seems like taking it slowly is working for both of you.

HulksPurplePanties · 20/01/2020 09:53

Just part of me feels like he is sad about this last relationship.

Jesus, I've been happily married for 10 years and I still feel a bit "sad" over how some of my past relationships ended. I wouldn't change my current situation, but sometimes it would be nice if things had ended on better notes.

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 09:55

Me too hulks but I don’t want to get back together with any of my ex’s!

He sort of seemed undecided. But by the sounds of it a month not speaking or putting things on hold would be silly.

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AnnaSparks · 20/01/2020 09:59

I think it sounds like you have some personal insecurities from previous relationships. If that’s the case, I guess you’re both bringing a little bit of baggage to the table. That’s normal.

If I were you I’d work on your self esteem. Let him know that your feelings are fragile so if feelings do stir up with the ex he needs to let you know sooner rather than later.

Otherwise I’d just stop thinking so much and have fun. People are going to hurt you in life whether you stress and analyze it or not. Enjoy things while they’re good. Your gut will tell you if things aren’t right, trust it.

WhatToDOTressy · 20/01/2020 10:03

I feel like my gut is saying he still has feelings. But it’s also telling me it’s definitely over.

I guess it’s the not knowing for sure that I don’t like. Maybe this is more about my insecurity than anything else.

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AnnaSparks · 20/01/2020 10:05

Also I notice you said “how can I know for sure?”

You can’t! That’s love and relationships I’m afraid. Allowing yourself to be vulnerable is something you can only do when you’re strong enough. If I were you the question I’d be asking is “am I ready for this relationship?”

3rdchristmaslucky · 20/01/2020 10:08

I think the red flag here, really, is for your insecurity.

You've acknowledged that he's been really open and honest with you but you're second guessing his motives still.

If you really think that a break in dating is a good idea then you need to be clear that it is your issue. You can't put this on him, send him away for a month and then expect him to come back as open as he was before.

hellsbellsmelons · 20/01/2020 10:09

I'm still sad about my last relationship.
He was and out and out narc, a liar and a cheat and a porn addict.
I'm still sad about it though and it ended 3 years ago.
Still a bit sad about my marriage ending as well and that was 11 years ago!!!!
As others have said - it's early days. Enjoy it!!!

Lobsterquadrille2 · 20/01/2020 10:19

OP, you sound just like my best friend (who is lovely) - I once said to her, slightly exasperated, that she held all her relationships up to the light to check for flaws.

He sounds very honest, maybe more honest than I would be in that situation. I have one ex from 20 years ago, with whom I have absolutely no contact and he's in Canada. If I were forced to admit to it at gunpoint, I've always seen him as the one who got away.

I'm also not sure what the month apart would really achieve. It might show him that you're not sufficiently interested, or that he needs to be less than frank with you. I would carry on exactly as you are. Maybe your concern is because you do really like him and your fear of being hurt?

I've met someone very recently and at some point I'm going to reveal that not only am I a recovering alcoholic but I wear a wig!!!!!

user1479305498 · 20/01/2020 10:20

What hells bells said. You can still have an element of sadness years and years on, sadness more about how it turned out than ‘that’ person as such