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Is it me or him?

11 replies

greenfrog87 · 15/01/2020 09:25

Sorry for the long post. I just don't know what to do.
I have been with my partner for 10yrs, we have a 1 year old and a mortgage together.

When we had the baby he said I didn't need to work as he can afford bills and mortgage etc, which he does.
We have argued so much over the 10 years that to me it's just normal now.
He hates my family. To the point that he refused to let me see them at Christmas because ds didn't deserve to be punished by me making him spend time with them.
He has said he wants another child, but I am stopping him because as long as my Nan is alive we will never have another child because she is a vile human being and he wishes she was dead.

He wants me to quit my hobby (I have done for just over 20 years it's nothing new) because I don't get paid for it so he says I'm wasting my time. When I was pregnant during an argument I said I would quit, but a few weeks after having ds I decided I didn't want to give it up, and now he says I'm unreasonable.
He says I 'sit on my arse all day and do nothing' I cook, clean, wash, look after our child etc.
He constantly makes remarks which he says after are jokes but they hurt me and I've told him, like I'm fat, ugly, lazy, a bad mother.
He blames his moods on anyone and everything. He's either ill, or it's work, it's me or our son.
He says I have too much stuff in the house. Even Christmas Day (before lunch) he made me take all the bags of presents upstairs cuz it was all too much crap lying around.

When we have big arguments - he threatens to leave, I usually try and stop him which always ends in screaming, tears, me begging him not to go.
I do have a temper when things get so heated so I am to blame and I have said nasty things back.

He has said in the past I ruined our family life because I refused years ago to move to the other side of the world with him, and if I had our son would be having a much better life rn and I ruined it all.
The last few months I've been seriously considering leaving him. I've researched housing and help with benefits until I can sort childcare and work. Yesterday I told him this and he said fine leave then and he's refusing to even talk to me about any of it. All he said was that he thought everything was fine.
I still am debating leaving. I know he's going to put all the blame on me, I already feel guilty for researching what I have behind his back, but I just don't think he's happy with me anymore and I'm sure he would be better off without us ruining anymore of his life

OP posts:
pigdogridesagain · 15/01/2020 09:28

He's an abusive bully. Leave him and take your child as far away from this toxic man as you possibly can

3rdchristmaslucky · 15/01/2020 09:29

It's both of you.
You're unhappy and doing nothing to fix it. He's an arsehat.

Leave.

Whynosnowyet · 15/01/2020 09:31

Next time he threatens to leave you start his packing for him.
Best day for me was when I threw exh out.
He used that threat for years.
Would love to have seen his face when I text him to move out

loserssaywhat · 15/01/2020 09:33

Stop debating with yourself. He's abusing you.
He sounds like a nasty, manipulative prick.
He calls you names, stops you from seeing your family, blames you for his shitty behaviour, supports you giving up work and then berates you for 'doing nothing', forces you to give up a hobby you love.
All classic signs of abuse.
Does your family like him?

ohwheniknow · 15/01/2020 09:39

This is coercive control - abuse.

Making plans to leave is brave and ultimately would be better for you and your child. It is the only way your life will improve.

You can't wait for him to agree. Abuse is about controlling you (that's why he used to threaten to leave so you'd do what he wanted).

It's also unsurprising after a decade of intense psychological abuse and isolation from support you would react in defence of yourself. That doesn't make you culpable for his abuse.

Have you got everything you need in place to leave? Can you arrange housing? Would you be able to move out when he's at work/not home? Or do you have anyone who could be with you when you leave?

Do you have a safety plan? He may become violent If he realises you are serious about leaving and none of his normal control tactics are working.

It's bad enough for you to speak to Women's Aid: 0808 2000 247. They can help with safety plans and if you need to find a refuge space as a temporary step before moving into a more permanent home they can help with that.

What he's done to you is a crime. If you ever feel in danger, call the police on 999.

The Freedom Programme can also help you understand everything you've been through and prepare to rebuild: www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

ohwheniknow · 15/01/2020 09:41

He may not yet be doing every single example here, but he is doing way way too many of them.

No amount of abuse is acceptable in a relationship.

Is it me or him?
DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 15/01/2020 09:41

He's obviously a shit, so there's no debating that.

He enjoys you begging him to stay, which is what emboldens him to behave so awfully to you.
Now you've mentioned leaving him he's ignoring you because he's scared that you might be serious and he wants you to reconsider and beg him not to be angry with you and stay together.

Put simply, he is an abusive, manipulative little shit stain and you shouldn't be subjecting yourself, or your son, to him a minute longer.

Leave him as soon as you can.
He will get worse. It will affect your son. Don't let him grow up thinking his father's behaviour is normal, or acceptable.

You will be so much happier in a few short years, to be away from this prick.

hellsbellsmelons · 15/01/2020 09:42

He's abusive and nasty and a bully.
You know you need to leave.
This is an awful environment for your DC to be raised in.
So get away.
Get back to family and start your new life - abuse free!!!!!

pooopypants · 15/01/2020 09:47

Him. Definitely him.

Next time he threatens to leave, pack his shit for him and leave it near the door or drop it off somewhere.

Stop taking his shit lying down and change something - you deserve to be happy and he's making you miserable.

greenfrog87 · 15/01/2020 10:29

Thank you all for replies. I don't have any money of my own to pay for a deposit or anything at the moment so I'll try and sort that today.
My family don't like him, they haven't seen each other for a few years except at a funeral.
I feel bad because I have taken back things I said I'd do, but that's not what makes me happy so I changed my mind.

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loserssaywhat · 15/01/2020 10:37

Do you know why they don't like him?
It's very common in abusive relationships for outsiders ie family members, to recognise the abusive behaviour long before the person being abused does.
He likely knows they can see him for what he is so stopping you from seeing them benefits him.
He won't want them influencing you.

As for changing your mind, you're allowed to do that! You don't need to apologise for it or feel guilty for wanting to do things you enjoy!
The fact that you feel that way is indicative of how abusive this man actually is.

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