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AllForeverAtOnce · 14/01/2020 16:46

I'm really sorry this is long, I desperately need some advice.
I don't know where to post this for the best advice and most traffic.
I broke up with the father of my 2 kids, 2 years ago. He was controlling, verbally cruel and financially abusive.
Since then he has made it his mission to make things difficult. He started out saying he'll give me £100 per month for them, and if he bought anything he would deduct it from that amount. So I went to CMS, so he denied paternity.
All that is sorted now, but obviously we had to do a paternity test.
He started out having the kids Friday after school until Sunday until he got with his girlfriend, now he will only have them from Saturday mornings untill Sunday afternoons. Twice a month.
He was sending me messages telling me when he would have them what day and time with about 2 weeks notice, and if I didn't agree he would get abusive and accuse me of not letting him see HIS kids. Which means for a year I was basically not planning anything, not doing anything for fear of him kicking off that he couldn't have them. So in an attempt to stop this I ignore him and try to live life, but obviously he just ramps his anger up.
He says it's because he works shifts and his rota is none of my business, but he gets his rota a year in advance and he works for a well known organisation who would and have in the past been very supportive when it comes to families.

I attempted mediation before last summer and he refused, I still have the paperwork to prove this.

He simply will not co operate and recently I have had to use my mum as a go between as everytime he spoke to me he was abusive and would call me names. Womens Aid said that I was in my rights to not have contact with him.

So he took to arranging pick up with our 11 year old son. I don't believe that is right. I want contact done formally. So after speaking to a legal aid lawyer she said to stop contact and let him take me to court. So I sent him a signed for and tracked letter via Royal Mail notifying him of this last week, I am waiting to hear, if he responds at all.

But he has taken to waiting outside our sons secondary school, giving him letters to give to me, and having contact this way, which means he doesn't see our daughter at all, which will only cause problems if she realises. School will only get involved if there is a court order.
Is there anything else I can do, I want them to see them, because believe it or not he actually takes them out and does fun things with them, which he never used to do when we lived together, and quite honestly everything was down to me, even on his off days. Plus I cant always afford to do these things and the kids enjoy it.
I just want him to 1. Do it properly and 2. Stop abusing me and calling me names.
He now refuses to go through my mum, because she was ignoring everything except things about contact. He sent her messages about me, his usual cruel things, but nothing too incriminating. He is smart. He refuses to go through anyone else, even his mum he only wants to speak to me.
But I can't do that anymore and so have blocked him on everything.
He has them for 2 nights a month, no more, no school holidays, although he took them abroad with his mum last year. And turns up to watch our son at football, it appears he only likes the fun things.
Please can someone tell me how i can facilitate contact formally whilst keeping myself out of it. He is perfectly fine with everyone else just not me.

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SpinneyHill · 14/01/2020 16:54

You obey your solicitor from the start and do not contact him at all
You let the court deal with it, don't open letters if it helps just give them to your mum to keep and present everything to the court. As for him being smart, I wouldn't be so sure the court will appreciate him using an 11 year old to facilitate abuse and control over you outside the school gate.

SpinneyHill · 14/01/2020 16:56

Did solicitor mention a Non-Molestation order? I'm surprised you haven't done that.

AllForeverAtOnce · 14/01/2020 17:24

Yes but most of his messages are the same way he speaks to me. So to my face and over the phone he calls me crazy, mental, whore, slut, shit mum etc
In his message he just calls me crazy with mental health issues. Would that be enough, they are not threatening

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SandyY2K · 14/01/2020 18:20

Don't open the look letters. Put them unopened in a larger envelope and give to your son to return to him.

SpinneyHill · 14/01/2020 18:25

Somebody writing down that you are crazy and giving it to your son is not normal healthy behaviour is it.

If he believed it, what difference would it make for him to write it down and hand it to an 11 year old?

He isn't writing to help or express concern it is being done to harrass and cause distress.

Itsanothernamechange · 14/01/2020 18:26

I have a very good idea what profession your ex is in. My ex plays the same games with regards to contact days saying his shift are being messed around. He also gets them 6-12 months in advance though would say different. My advise is follow what your solicitor says and when you get a court order follow that too if hes anything like my ex he'll mess up time amd time again and the court will tale a hard view of it esp if I'm right about the job.

SpinneyHill · 14/01/2020 18:30

Replacing crazy bitch with you have Mental Health Issues is not making him look less obsessive, abusive and unreasonable.

It's the writing it down and hanging around a school to hand it to a child to give to you that makes it harassment, he is going out of his way to be nasty and reasonable adults don't behave that way, the court has no reason to disbelieve that he is also abusive in telephone and face to face contact.

SpinneyHill · 14/01/2020 18:33

Do not give the letters to your son to deliver back under any circumstances the court will take a really dim view of that.

YasssKween · 14/01/2020 18:36

Do not give the letters back to your son to return to his dad, totally inappropriate and would bring you down to his level.

I would get solid advice from a solicitor, this is too important for your sons sense of stability and security to include any guesswork.

I also think I know what line of work he is in and if I'm right you need a decent solicitor who can deal with him directly and help you put an agreement in place that clearly states contact.

Once you have this, do not engage with him regarding anything outside the agreement.

Good luck OP, sorry - he sounds like a right dick and a bully too Thanks

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