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Husband looking at my friend's social media, don't know how I feel

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Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 14:51

DH and I have been together for ten years, married for six. Our youngest is a toddler.

DH has always had a lower libido than me. In general he is not the most confident of men and I suspect he was a virgin or at least more inexperienced with women than he'd admit to when we got together. I never put him under pressure about sex, have always been supportive. I would have liked more sex but was very happy with what we had. DH has also had some health issues which have affected performance

Since our terrible sleeper youngest child was born, sex has become nonexistent. He has always had trouble initiating, and we've spoken about this before, but now he never initiates. When I try, most of the time he'll just sit there doing nothing, then tell me he is tired/sore etc. I have tried to tell him how unwanted this makes me feel. I feel as though he barely wants to look at me and no longer sees me as a woman,just a mum. Disclaimer being that I need to lose about three stone, am knackered, and feeling very insecure, I'm also a bit of a catastrophist and can overreact, so it's possible I'm seeing things that aren't there.

The last few weeks have been stressful and I just wanted to spend some time with DH and feel like an adult again, but after more rejection, I basically lost it and said I was done running after him begging for scraps of his affection, told him how I felt etc. He was very upset, said he felt like shit that he didn't realise how unhappy he was making me, it was his fault etc. There was some improvement. Another issue that I've had is that I'll go to bed, he'll say he will be down in ten minutes, and usually 40 minutes later he'll come to bed. This usually means I'm left to deal with the non sleeping toddler. I asked him what he was doing for all that time, he said locking up the house. It takes 5 minutes not 40.

I also noticed he'd be increasingly keen to pack me off to bed, with comments such as "ooh I'm tired, shall we go to bed soon" he'd turn off the TV/laptop (I'm usually reading) and the lights and just wait around til I'd gone to bed, then cue the 40 minutes later thing.

So I've just been feeling more and more shit, and I pulled him up on this as well. I told him how bloody shifty it made him look, and how unfair it was that he's basically putting pressure on me to go to bed so he can then sneak this 40 plus minutes to himself (alone time is in short supply at the minute and I get none unless I lock myself in the bathroom or leave the house)

So the next day he asked could we talk, which we did. He said he was totally ashamed of himself, had been up in the early hours of this morning thinking about what I said, realised he'd been acting horribly this past few weeks and it was going to stop.

I asked him was there anything else going on that he should tell me, and he said no.

Something made me check his browsing history on his phone. I have never done this before, but our phones are open to each other and I wouldn't care if he looked through mine. DH has no social media at all. Anyway, he's been googling for pictures of certain celebrities in bikinis/topless. I don't really care about that in itself, however I think it's pretty shit that he's been sitting doing that of an evening, then rejecting sex and barely touching me.

More worryingly, he has been looking at my best friend's social media. She posts a lot of scantily clad workout videos, and good for her, she's gorgeous. I'd say my husband has searched her name/looked at her social media accounts at least every day. I can see he has also been searching profiles of women we know locally/through work. Probably just nosiness, but he isn't searching any men.

So there we go. I'm offering it on tap, and he'd rather perve on my friends and random women we know in passing. I don't know how to feel. I'm reluctant to mention it to him because he did genuinely and of his own accord come and have that talk about how he's been a dick recently (and I thought he was being too hard on himself but obviously this is why)

Apart from all this, our marriage is excellent. I'm happy with the division of childcare and housework, he always pulls his weight around the house, would do anything for me (except have sex apparently) and is a kind man whom I adore. I love spending time with him, and I thought we were very happy. I don't think he's ever said an unkind word to me, the last few weeks have been hard and we have been a bit distant but he hasn't acted in an angry or unpleasant way or any thing like that. I veer from feeling that this is my fault, as I've put on weight and am often tired and stressed, and running around after the kids - to thinking he's horribly disrespectful for doing this. My best friend ffs. I'd just like a bit of perspective really

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Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 14:58

Sorry, that was a lot longer than intended!

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sirmione16 · 07/01/2020 15:01

Your feelings aren't unreasonable at all, I'd be pissed off and offended he's chosen to look at women who you know in real life. There's a line crossed from random porn to "real life" there which makes me uncomfortable (for the record, I'm 100% okay with porn but for some that would be a line in itself) I don't have much in the way of advice but I wanted to comment that you should not judge yourself off his actions. It is not your fault he's not affectionate to you, it is not your fault that he looks elsewhere. It's nothing to do with your time, your weight or anything else. It's him who isn't channeling his energy into the correct places, so please do not think "if I had lost that 3 stone" or "if I wasn't so busy with the toddler" because it's absolutely NOT that. Look at supermodels and celebs who lose their man's eye, it's nothing to do with how a woman looks or acts. I just wanted that to be said first and foremost.

SpoonBlender · 07/01/2020 15:02

The only tiny potential for positive spin in this is that he might have been trying to get it up for you before coming to bed - has he been trying to initiate recently after these 40 minute delays?

Far more likely he's downstairs knocking one out to your friend though. Sorry.

Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 15:12

No, usually by that point either I'm half asleep or the toddler is awake. So yes, he's knocking one off to my friend.

I do think he's perhaps caught himself on though and realised how shit it is- after the talk, which he instigated, he's come to bed at the same time as me and has been more affectionate and we've done sexual stuff.

Tbh looking at the odd photo of celebrities with their tits out wouldn't particularly bother me if he had been paying the same attention to my tits iykwim, then the fact it's people we know is just ugh

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Mistlewoeandwhine · 07/01/2020 15:53

Yes I’d feel really sick about the friend thing too. My advice would be to tell him what you know he’s been up to and tell him how hurt you are. Also maybe something like viagra might help him? You might need to go for sexual counselling. My DH is similar to yours except for the wanking. I’m fat too and I know it’s hard to not blame yourself for not being sexy enough. I think some men just have low sex drives.

Thickums · 07/01/2020 17:16

Does he suffer woth erectile dysfunction? That would explain lack of sex if he's anxious about getting it up?

Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 17:17

Thanks mistletoe. You think I should bring it up then? I was going to let sleeping dogs lie for now, and see if he keeps up the coming to bed at the same time/initiating before I said anything.

I do feel like I'm not sexy enough, it's quite horrible actually because I have always felt comfortable in my own skin, but after all the discussions we've had about lack of sex, it really hurts that when he does feel in the mood, his thoughts don't turn to me, but to celebrities and my friend! What a blow to my self esteem that is

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Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 17:21

Especially because he's the man I fancy and who I think about, I mean obviously if Gérard Butler came knocking I'd have to go, but it would just never occur to me to creep someone I or DH knows like that, every day

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BumbleBeee69 · 07/01/2020 17:25

What a PRICK... damn right I'd be telling him straight that his drooling over your friend is sad and desperate and to move the hell out if he's that unhappy. Flowers

Thickums · 07/01/2020 17:27

You could be the hottest thing since sliced bread and he may just not fancy you. Nothing to do with you. Sonetimes people just stop fancying their partners. Some people never fancy their partners but love them as they rub along fine. But the sexual charge just isn't there.

He will never admit it if he doesn't fancy you as thats just a hurtful thing to say. I suppose you yourself may know deep down inside that he just doesn't fancy you.

No reflection on you though if that's the case. A million other men may find you irresistible. But staying with someone who doesn't will erode your self esteem.

allyjay · 07/01/2020 17:35

I don't know, I'm not sure I could stay with a man who wouldn't touch me sexually but was happily knocking one out to my best friend. Ugh no

SeagullOnTheWind · 07/01/2020 17:55

I've learnt from MN that men who use porn to obsessively want tend to experience ED.

Mine is having problems. It's related to his weight, and his self esteem. I rarely mention anything full stop but he thinks the pressure is immense. I've told him I'd rather have more affection than sex anyway but that doesn't happen. Yes, OH problem.

I hope this 40 min thing stops for good. It's obviously not healthy for the relationship

YasssKween · 07/01/2020 18:03

I don't know, I'm not sure I could stay with a man who wouldn't touch me sexually but was happily knocking one out to my best friend.

Agree with this, personally. No issue whatsoever with wanking, I think it's healthy and normal but not when it totally replaces intimacy and closeness. And DEFINITELY not when it's to a friend you know in real life.

Massively disrespectful, particularly as you've made it so clear that you do want that intimacy and romance.

IF you're willing to stay for now then I think you need an open and honest chat to decide together what the next steps are. It sounds like you would both be willing to work together and see if you can get things back on track.

Usually I hate this advice but you need some grown up time away together to remember you have a laugh and enjoy each other's company.

Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 18:28

We definitely do need some grown up time away together. We've had none since DC2 was born, just the evenings which are usually punctuated by one or both of us going down to settle DC. Though I've managed to refrain from perving on any of DH's friends Sad

He does have ED I think, not all the time, but it's linked to the medical issue he has, which is en route to being sorted, so hopefully things will get better there.

I just feel really sad. One minute I think it's a small issue really, compared to stories you hear, and when you put it against ten years of being a truly wonderful partner. But on the other hand, I thought better of DH and I thought he was above that sort of sordidness.

He doesn't watch lots of porn, this was basically it- topless celebrities, a few acquaintances and my friend.

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Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 18:33

How do I tell him when it means I will have to admit to snooping through his phone? As I said I've never done that before and it feels like complete bunny boiler stuff.

It also means I will alert him to the need for frequent clearing out his search history, which in light of his browsing habits I'm not sure I want to do now

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Bluerussian · 07/01/2020 18:34

I feel so sorry for you; I wouldn't be happy about it either. However you obviously love each other. Why not suggest a lot more affection, cuddles, touching, nice words but no pressure for full sex.

Yes you do need some grown up time alone, do you have willing grandparents around who'd have your children for a day and a night? That is, of course, if your children would be happy away from home with them.

Flowers
Bluntness100 · 07/01/2020 18:39

Usually I'm the first to say god he can look at whatever he wants on social media, but this is all shades of wrong. Packing you off to bed and then googling women topless and perving on your friend is fairly sick to be honest. If he'd a look once or twice fair enough, but he isn't. And he's using the time when you go to bed, to do it, so he's likely not suffering Ed at that point.

I think he needs to be honest with you. And I don't think he is being. Likely because it would hurt you and be embarrassing to you. I also note you say he looks at your friend in workout gear, whilst your over weight. So maybe he does have an issue there.

Whatever is going on in his head, he needs to address it. But he can't be packing you off to bed so he can wank over your mate, that's just sick. I'd actually consider leaving over that, and consider it very strongly if I thought my husband was wanking over images of my friends. In fact I really think I'd have to end it.

NamechangeoutedbyMIL · 07/01/2020 18:39

Hang on, did I miss the bit about him definitely wanking over her friend? Thars too far.

BUT, I used to have a completely innocent but very big crush on a man at work and I occasionally look him up on social media Blush certainly not to "wank" over but just a wee snoop and that's the end of it and I don't think there's anything wrong with that?

Bluntness100 · 07/01/2020 18:40

Sorry embarrassing to him, not you.

Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 18:41

Well nobody has seen him wanking, but the timing of the searches plus the eagerness to pack me off to bed indicates wanking was likely taking place Blush

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Bluntness100 · 07/01/2020 18:42

BUT, I used to have a completely innocent but very big crush on a man at work and I occasionally look him up on social media

He's doing it daily, and he does it when she's in bed. In fact he packs her off to bed so he can do it. And it's her friend, and he looks up other local women. And topless celebs. What else is he doing other than wanking,

Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 18:45

Yes, the workout gear. The other women he's searching are all very much a type really, and none of them over a size 10.

He always says he loves my curves and blah blah and of course I believed him, because I'm a stupid twat who forgot that men tell white lies like that.

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Nifflernancy · 07/01/2020 18:46

Any chance you can sneak downstairs during these 40 minute periods....? Or come down very quickly for a glass of water or similar... and see what he’s doing?

Feelabitmeh · 07/01/2020 18:50

No, he'd hear me coming right away. He hasn't done it in a few days anyway, since we had the talk

I suppose that's why I'm thinking perhaps it would be best not to bring it up, if he's realised himself and has stopped as a result

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2020BetterBeBetter · 07/01/2020 18:59

The next time he delays coming to bed why don’t you quietly go downstairs and confront him?