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Long term plan

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HerRoyalFattyness · 22/12/2019 10:56

I have a thread in AIBU.

It's making me realise how bad my relationship is.

Background:
We've been together 12 years and we have 3 kids.
I was 16 when our relationship started.
At 17 I had our first child.
We split when DS1 was a baby. I said he couldn't see DS1 at his mum's house as there was a history of abuse, drug taking and his mum is an alcoholic.
He took me to court. Judge agreed with me stating that his mum's house is unsafe.
He was granted access in a one to one contact centre, where the staff taught him how to interact with DS1.
Once that was finished the court order stated that he could see DS1 in the community on Tuesdays and Saturdays.
Any changes were subject to my approval. I held all the cards.

One night it was raining. Pouring. So I invited him in. We had a ONS.

I fell pregnant with DD. During the pregnancy he stepped up. He bought everything we needed for DD and we decided to give it another go.

When DD was 10 months old, my pill failed and I fell pregnant with DS2.
I had a very difficult pregnancy. He was extremely supportive throughout.
But... I gained 7st. I was miserable.

Fast forward to a couple of years ago.
I've never lost the weight. Every time I make the effort to do so, he buys takeaways, or junk and moans if I don't eat it, properly sulks.
He doesn't grasp that our weight is a serious problem. I'm almost 17st. He is 19 and a half stone.

I started working full time. He's a SAHD.
He complains about.money all the time. Constantly going on about it, questioning me constantly on what money we have and what I've spent it on, what money I can put in his bank, yet if I dare to ask where the money I put in his bank has gone, he goes mental. Shouting and throwing stuff.

Last September my implant failed and I fell pregnant with twins. I had an abortion as doctors told me my body would not cope with another pregnancy.

He had a vasectomy.

He now tells me that he wouldn't have done that if not for me, that I've made him less of a man.

Anyway. I am autistic (diagnosed 2018) and recently diagnosed with hypermobile Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. (Which explains why my pregnancies were difficult) and I'm also severely depressed with psychosis and auditory hallucinations.

He sits at home all day, refusing to get a job. I've told him time and time again that now all the children are in school, him working would be best for the family.
He demands money, and spends it on takeaway and energy drinks.
He plays Xbox all day, ignores the kids a lot of the time. Ignores me or sulks and shouts.
He does no housework, expecting me to do it all. And complains if I ask him for help because I'm in pain.
He tries to take my pain killers and sulks if I tell him no.

He sits doing nothing all day and then calls me fat and lazy, tells me I'm worthless and I believed him.

I have to be his PA, reminding him of appointments that the kids have (DS1 has aortic and mitral regurgitation, suffers from migraines, has glue ear and asthma, DD has selective mutism, a severe anxiety disorder, and DS2 is allergic to tomatoes and has a wheat intolerance) etc, I make sure they're up and have teeth brushed, washed and have hair brushes before I leave for work at 7am. Then when I come home at 7pm, I do reading books and bedtime routine with the younger ones, then come downstairs, listen to the older one read while I make something to eat, because even though I generally make something to be heated up the next day (say, a cottage pie. I make it Monday ready for Tuesday) he never saves me any, so I inevitably have to make my own or he will order a takeaway. (Spending more money we don't have)

He often goes to bed early, or refuses to share the bed with me, sleeping in the sofa instead.

He puts me down and makes me feel like crap constantly and I've spent the last few years desperate for his attention and love.

And now I'm realising that I'm not going to get that. I need to get out. But I need a plan. Finances are tricky. We are on a DMP, which goes out of his account. All the debts are in my name.

So...
Things I have in my favour...

The tenancy is in my name only. Housing association house, so tenancy is secure.

If we split, thanks to the court order he will not be able to take the kids. They'll stay with me.

Things I need to figure out.

The DMP. Once it's under 20 grand I will apply for a debt relief order, and then it's only a year from then.

My mental health. I need to be in the right state of mind. I need support. And encouragement. There are going to be times I struggle and think it's pointless leaving.

Childcare. This is a tough one. The times I need to leave for work and the time I come home mean childcare is very difficult to figure out. I don't have family available to help, and there is no space for an au pair.

So MN. What I'm asking is for a handhold.
It might take a few years to figure everything out, but my relationship is over.

I see that now. I can't go on like this, walking on eggshells, afraid of his next tantrum. Although he isn't physically violent, the threat is there through his throwing things and punching walls. (He never does this in front of the kids. They don't see this, but I don't doubt they know something is going on and they pick up on the atmosphere)

So I need you all to keep me brave for however long it takes to pay down the DMP and squirrel away some money so if I need to take time off work while I figure out childcare, I'm not negatively affected.

I'm sorry it's so long.

TL;DR. My partner is a dickwad, and I know I need to leave but it will take time.

OP posts:
HerRoyalFattyness · 26/12/2019 13:38

He's gone to his mum's.
He spent the morning telling the kids he wouldn't help with their toys.
I'm so relieved that we have a day where we can relax. (Although to be fair, yesterday wasn't too bad, he just spent a lot of the day making advances which I declined, which obviously upset him)

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thickwoollytights · 26/12/2019 14:25

Has he gone for good ? Grin

DisplayPurposesOnly · 26/12/2019 14:37

OP, you sound amazing! You're doing a great job of looking after your children and yourself. Very clear sighted and logical.

My friend was in a similar situation with her (now ex) husband, where he would sabotage any improvements in their life. He has 'issues' and it suited him to keep her down and reliant on him. She finally kicked him out after 13 years, and has gone from strength to strength 💪

HerRoyalFattyness · 26/12/2019 14:40

Unfortunately not.

I did tell him to leave though.
I was going to let him leave and bloody well quit work and find something more suited to being a single mum.

He said he has nowhere to go, that he'd be homeless.
That if he was to leave, I'd be purposely making it difficult for him to have a relationship with the children.

I gave in. Sad

So he's staying. But I'm very much behaving as if I'm single. The only thing he will be doing is childcare.
I will do everything else for me and the kids.
He can sort himself.

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HerRoyalFattyness · 26/12/2019 14:43

He's messaging me as if everything is fine though.
Telling me all about his sister, who's 3 year old went missing for 4 hours and was found a mile and a half away at McDonald's. Hmm
SS are already involved with her. She has been in prison for drug related offences, has 5 children and apparently her current partner is physically violent to her oldest child (the one who isn't his) and she lets him.

I asked why he's telling me. Apparently he's concerned about them. I told him if he's that concerned to contact her social worker. It's nothing to do with me.

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DisplayPurposesOnly · 26/12/2019 15:17

Don't give in. He's an adult, he can sort his own living arrangements out.

Whilst he's gone, why not tell him to not come back??

HerRoyalFattyness · 26/12/2019 15:34

He's back.
Gone straight upstairs out if the way.

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AloneLonelyLoner · 26/12/2019 16:06

Hi OP, I've followed your other thread and I am so pleased to read this one. I know it's shit but your strength just shines from the page. You have this! He is an utter Arse, but you know it and you'll get there. I'm so impressed and in awe of you.

HerRoyalFattyness · 26/12/2019 17:21

I don't feel strong. At all.

He appeared downstairs.
The kids are happily on individual screens.
He put football on TV then began building the Lego I bought him for Christmas (I bought it months ago)
So I've come upstairs and I'm going to read my book for a bit. Something I've never done before. He usually complains, but I didn't even ask him. I just did it. Grin
I can hear the kids, so I know they're ok, and I get to do something I enjoy.

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HerRoyalFattyness · 27/12/2019 04:00

My antipsychotics are meant to have a sedative effect.
They clearly don't Hmm
I'm awake and I can hear pratty snoring downstairs. It's like a freight train.
I'll be up in a couple of hours.with the kids, yet I can't sleep. I can't switch my brain off. It's very frustrating.

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HerRoyalFattyness · 27/12/2019 11:05

Urgh.

He's just had the cheek to come down and moan about the state of the house. Hmm the kids have their new toys in the living room. They're playing with them. Fuck off.

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HerRoyalFattyness · 27/12/2019 16:10

We went out for a walk and left him to sulk.

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thickwoollytights · 27/12/2019 17:03

Can you foresee a time when you can get rid of him? xxx

HerRoyalFattyness · 27/12/2019 17:07

I'm trying to convince my mum that grandma needs a proper carer and she should watch the kids for me lol.
So far it hasn't worked...

I'm hoping I can sort things sooner rather than later to be honest.

Going to phone stepchange tomorrow and see if I can swap the DMP direct debit to my bank.

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PepePig · 28/12/2019 09:21

He's full of bs, isn't he?

He'd be homeless? No, he could get a job and rent a flat. Or go to his mums. Not homeless.

Making it difficult to see the kids? Sure when he sees them now all he does is give off and complain. He could also see them after his shifts. Like, yanno, most people do.

OP, you're doing really well, but don't let his sob stories control you. He's an adult and will have the capacity to sort himself out when the time comes. Selfish people would never put themselves in a situation where they'd actually be affected by something. He's acting as if he'd be stuck as he knows you're a good person and it appeals to your kind nature.

I'd sort out finances, look for an alternative job (even look at benefits youd receive as a single parent if you worked less, etc), sort the debt into your own account then give him a week to get the fuck out.

What a manipulative dead weight he is.

HerRoyalFattyness · 30/12/2019 15:28

Went to my mum's today.

Wanna know what my six year old said on the way back?

"What's daddy doing at home?"
"I don't know sweetie"
"I bet he's playing Xbox"
"He might be"
"I will be surprised very much if he isn't"

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HerRoyalFattyness · 31/12/2019 19:16

I've taken to ignoring him.
If he wants to behave as if I'm a single mother, I'll act like one.
I've done nothing at all for him the last couple of days.
And I've booked a trip for me and the kids to go to the cinema tomorrow.
I'll start this year off right for me and them.

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thickwoollytights · 31/12/2019 19:45

I'll start this year off right for me and them.

Brilliant Thanks

KidCaneGoat · 31/12/2019 19:56

You sound really determined. That’s great! Could you change jobs at any point so your hours are more child friendly? You may take a pay cut but will be saving in extra food for him and take aways. And I bet two bus passes is expensive too. Your posts always sound like you put the kids first but I’m also really pleased that you found time to go up and read a book for a while too. Time just for you.

HerRoyalFattyness · 01/01/2020 20:55

Kids really enjoyed their trip to the cinema today.

I'm going to speak to my manager tomorrow and see if they would be able to accommodate reduced hours.

Unfortunately stepchange are unable to change the DMP to my bank (I technically owe the bank money in an overdraft, so they won't take it from mine) but if he leaves, he will have to pay child maintenance anyway, so I'd tell him to make the payments and call it quits.
And if he didn't, my brother would help me. (He's 18 but is honestly so grown up. He's amazing. And we are super close with me being so much older)

I also have a specialist mental health team coming to visit on Saturday. So I will speak to them and see if they can refer me to anyone else who can help in any way.

I'm going to concentrate on getting things in order, making a plan and making sure my kids are happy.

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Goldwispa · 01/01/2020 21:38

You're doing really well. You should be proud of yourself

OhamIreally · 03/01/2020 13:49

What did your manager say about the hours OP?

HerRoyalFattyness · 03/01/2020 15:14

It's a no go unfortunately. Sad

We are already shirt staffed as it is and a colleague handed their notice in yesterday just before I went in to see her.

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HerRoyalFattyness · 03/01/2020 18:53

I have the early intervention team out tomorrow for my MH.
I'm nervous and hopeful that they can help, but still don't want to get my hopes up too much because I know how much pressure the services are under

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HerRoyalFattyness · 04/01/2020 21:47

The EIT are having a meeting about me and are going to assign me a care coordinator. I'll hear off them within the next week.

Care coordinator will stay involved for at least a year (possibly up to three years) and will make sure I get all the right support.

I feel really low now, but they said that's to be expected as I dropped my defences to talk to them.

I'm just trying really hard not to break down in front of pratty.
He has no sympathy whatsoever. He's sat munching pringles and keeps asking why I'm not eating.
Not being hungry isn't a good enough reason apparently.

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