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Desperately need advice before i destroy myself

38 replies

Robbie316uk · 20/12/2019 11:48

Hi this could be quite a long one.
I was with my ex fiancé for just under 5 years, we had 2 kids together and she had one from a previous relationship I am 31 she is 27, we had a life together, house, Bills, joint stuff everywhere etc when one night at the end of may she turned round and said it was over, it hit me like a ton of bricks out of nowhere but it was my fault, I didn’t notice the signs, I worked a lot and didn’t do as much as I should have done at home, I did under appreciate her and everything she did I admit that. I looked to my friends for support and one of my best who was like a younger brother who is 20 seemed so keen to help, a few days later I found out they were now together, I cut off contact, I hated them both because they did nothing but lie about it until they were caught out by me in my bed when I went round to drop off the kids coats, fast forward to 2 weeks ago, me and the ex had been talking and getting on as much as we can when after watching our daughter in her nativity she kissed me and said she has some thinking to do, the next day more kissing, more passion and she said she has decided she wants to give us another go. I will add in the 6 months I have chased her, I barely sleep, I have lost 5 stone in weight because I don’t eat as my brain puts them 2 together and it makes me physically sick. She ends up dumping him, saying we are gonna do us for awhile, how much she regrets what she did, she knows it was wrong etc etc.....fast forward 2 days she has kicked him out, I am round her house, it’s the kids bedtime I offer to put them to bed but because daddy is there they are excited, I read them stories like I do when I have them they still are awake, she comes up and says why aren’t they asleep yet I turned round and said “I don’t know they just won’t seem to settle” and with that she turned, told me to leave, she needed space, the next day she said she couldn’t do it, she was taking him back, she felt like nothing had changed with me.....now she has found herself in a problem, she is late on all her bills because he hadn’t been turning up for work and so didn’t get paid, I still want to give us a go but she says she doesn’t know where her head is at, I have offered to help her out of the mess she is in but she says it isn’t about the money and she will find a way, I have a professional job so do ok and him at 20 has no qualifications and works at a leisure centre. I feel like the back up option but I also feel like she has me exactly where she wants me, she says she loves me and loves him and doesn’t want to choose but is with him every night and refuses to even see me right now as she needs space and I don’t understand, it is causing me untold pain but I still love her like I always have....

OP posts:
Fightingmycorner2019 · 21/12/2019 13:23

She is not the one
She cheats , lies and messes you around
And then has substance abuse and money issues

You really need to try to shift from heartbreak to anger ! How dare someone treat someone like that ? As much as you love her you have years of pain ahead

Be strong , cut losses and get a decent therapist to support you sort feelings out

Focus on the kids and having them in your care 50:50

Fightingmycorner2019 · 21/12/2019 13:28

I can’t get anymore custody because of my work hours it just isn’t possible and she knows this

False . I will be a single mother soon . I will
Use childcare as I also have a job like
Yours

OP use your time to educate yourself . Also focus on kids. It’s not optimal for them .

Fuck her
Start thinking about more
Custody

Also get a therapist so you have someone to talk to , as will help with work

You need to shift your thinking drastically OP

Good luck and sorry for the tough love !

Robbie316uk · 21/12/2019 17:21

We have agreed to talk and try and get on for the benefit of the kids and I have given her 3 months grace on paying the joint bills, she told me today a lot of stuff that made me realise the respect she had for me, sleeping with my mate less than 2 weeks after we broke up in my own house on my own sofa, she said she wasn’t proud, regretted it and only lied to me because she knew the hurt it would cause. But I have seen some light, she has now fallen in love with him and feels happy despite the problems, I have told her about the drugs but she said that’s her choice, I mentioned custody however she said she will fight me all the way....again she said that she would never rule us out in the future because she does love me....she just isn’t in love with me and that hurts because I am very much in love with her and she knows it, I tried to say this is it but she laughed it off and said if she came at me I wouldn’t be able to say no....with abit more confidence and self esteem maybe I could fight that more but she is right, I am going out with friends tonight I think I need it

OP posts:
Fightingmycorner2019 · 22/12/2019 08:55

People can fight all the want on custody but the final laws determine a best for child process
So if you want to get more acess you should start early and make sure you do actually spend time with the kids !

I dont know how you wean yourself
Of this woman but you really need to

It’s over and she has someone else . So you have NO need to communicate unless it’s over the basics .

Good luck , being single but balanced and with decent acess to your kids is a far happier scenario than these constant ups and downs , honestly

caketimeisover · 22/12/2019 22:16

What does her behaviour tell you? Does she respect you? No. Does she care about you? No. Is this the kind of relationship you want to model for your kids? No way. What would your advice be for them if they were being treated like this? It would be RUN THE FUCK AWAY. So do the same yourself. She is a selfish monster who only cares about herself and no one else. It's all about her, she gets to have her cake and eat it - she gets her toy boy but keeps stringing you along because it makes her feel important and gives her a back up plan. No one deserves this. YOU DO NOT DESERVE THIS.

Go no contact, or as NC as you can with kids. Only talk to her about practicalities about the kids and separation, nothing else. It's hard but do it. Stop talking about feelings and your relationship because she has killed it, there's nothing more to discuss. Stop giving her attention. Just stop.

Regarding the kids, she is flakey, she smokes weed, her boyfriend is a baby... DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. Agree with PP who said if she went under a bus you would work out a way to be with the kids, so start thinking about that - can you afford wrap around care? Could you adjust your hours a couple of days a week to have the kids with you overnight? You need to detach from her, accept it's over for your own sake and start walking yourself out of the ridiculous mess that she's has made. Focus on working out practicalities, focus on yourself and start writing her out of your life.

Also agree with PP who said about chump lady. Get on the website. Read the book over and over again. Tell yourself, even if you don't believe it, that you deserve so much better than this. This is not your story. Honestly, keep telling yourself that she SUCKS. Because she really does.

whonoes · 22/12/2019 22:23

You need help. Find a therapist who can help you through this. Absolutely feel for you. You’ve been used and betrayed and you deserve better than this.

Robbie316uk · 23/12/2019 22:40

Bit of a different one today....she came to me struggling with money her direct debits will be unpaid, she offered services if I lent her money....I refused but stuff happened anyway....now she is back to thinking about us...she has cheated on him again and yet says she is happy with him.....I said she can’t be for today to have happened....I have saved texts but she has asked me not to tell him....now I am even more screwed up because being with her again felt right

OP posts:
Gingerkittykat · 23/12/2019 23:47

..she just isn’t in love with me and that hurts because I am very much in love with her and she knows it,

For god sake, don't let her keep you on the back burner and string you along.

Untangle your finances from hers, don't fuck her and give her money afterwards, let her be overdrawn and take the hit on joint debts to get rid of her.

Desolate2nite · 24/12/2019 12:07

I probably sound callous, but you need to man up and give your kids some stability. This woman is treating you appallingly, but you are letting her get away with it. Don't engage with her x

JustASmallTownCurl · 24/12/2019 13:11

She offered sexual stuff for money?
And you accepted?

That is absolutely not love on either side. At all.

Who do you love more - her or the kids?

If the kids then stop this teenage drama and grow up, both of you!

Robbie316uk · 24/12/2019 13:21

No I didn’t accept....but stuff happened anyway and like I told her I would never sleep with her for money, and I told her she needs to sort herself out....she will soon lose her car and more....of course it’s the kids but I do still love her too....

OP posts:
JustASmallTownCurl · 24/12/2019 13:38

Yes I know you love both but the reason I asked you to think about who you love more (hopefully the kids) is that being in a romantic relationship with her isn't necessary for you to be a good dad. And she doesn't want to commit to a long term relationship with you. So you need to focus on the kids.

You're both giving mixed signals. You say you won't exchange sexual services with her for money but do still have sexual activity with her and continue to help with money. It's not the same as a direct exchange but it's muddying the waters.

Likewise she says one day / maybe / in future she might want a relationship with you. She doesn't now though, she gives you enough to keep you hoping but is shagging someone else and letting your kids call him daddy.

She's incredibly manipulative and you are being wilfully foolish. You know this is toxic but aren't stopping the behaviour.

If she wants to be with you in future that will happen (though I doubt it will). But she's asking you to what - stay on the scene watching her have a relationship with someone else while intermittently cheating on him with you.
She's taking money off you because she's broke but she can afford weed.

You all need to grow up I'm afraid! It sounds like everyone is feeding the drama. It's simple - you aren't good together. You have children. Someone needs to put them first.

forumdonkey · 24/12/2019 14:00

FFS grow a pair, get some self respect and be a decent father and put your kids first. You're pathetically pining after your junky ex while she's bringing multiple men into your kids lives. Where are your children while she's shagging you all? Downstairs watching a DVD's or sent to the park?

Put your children and their welfare first

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