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We mutually agreed on no contact with the hope of getting back together

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theBlackCrow · 19/12/2019 05:54

Hi everyone, I need to vent, but I also would like some advice. I'm not expecting a kid, don't have any, and I'm not even a woman, but this message board popped up for me and it looked like a good one so here I go.

My ex gf and I broke up about 5 months ago, we've lived together for the past 2 years. We broke up over an issue that was affecting our relationship because we (ok, I..) could not move passed it, we just kept bickering over it. In hindsight, I now realize I was at fault, I was wrong, I was an idiot, the whole 9 yards. But, the damage of invalidating your partners feelings is done.

She and I get on wonderfully, we just vibe really well together, and our current and future life goals go together perfectly. We both recognize how important these things are and feel really fortunate to have found one another, we are joined at the hip. So when we "broke up," I suppose it wasn't a true break up. As in, we stayed in contact, were still intimate, and everything was pretty normal. But we couldn't stop bickering on and off, we were stuck in this bubble of admiration vs irritation.

We talked about it a lot, and we both had a lot of clarity regarding what was happening, what was unacceptable, and what needed to be done to fix it. We've been mature about it and decided that I should go to therapy, and that we could not get back together until we could prove to one another that this issue was fixed, we were healed, and had also moved passed it. We both just really wanted to go back to being happy and healthy with one another. We had talked about cutting contact months ago to let the dust settle, but we never had the strength to do it, I guess, even though I knew it would be the key. We tried to stay in contact while healing apart, and we would talk about how awesome it would be if we could step back and let the air clear, and then connect when we were over it. We knew we needed it, but we didn't do it. You know when you're just so annoyed at someone, their presence kind of sets you off? That was us lol Whenever we would bicker we would say, "See, if we would have cut contact months ago, we would not be here bickering right now, we would be here having fun." We knew it was true.

Well, it finally happened! We cut contact. It's been almost a month, and I feel great for the most part. Missing her at first, but now I see that everything we had discussed about spending time apart to let the dust settle, it has happened. The issue has almost dissipated from my mind, and I don't much associate her or us with it anymore. I really wish we would have done this earlier because it feels like the scab we kept opening up, has finally healed and there's nothing left to pick at. I've gained clarity and I definitely prefer my life with her, than without her. Therapy has been invaluable, and I really gained such a new perspective as to how to truly have a great relationship - And that isn't thinking I am always right.

Here's the thing, I know she was more hurt than I was. I know in general she takes longer to get over being angry than I do. So I don't think I can be the one to reach out to her just because I feel better. I can't assume she does yet, and I need to respect her equal need to heal. I knew if we contact one another too early, we will fall back into the same trend. We both need to be healed and ready.

I guess why I am writing this is, now I am scared. I mean, technically we are broken up. We both agreed that after time had passed and we had let the situation go, we wanted to reconnect and let things fall back into place. But what if she fell out of love with me? It's possible that the clarity I gained that I want her in my life, she gained that she doesn't want me in hers. Part of me is ok with that in terms of wanting her to find her happiness if it turns out not to be with me, and in turn that opens me up to the person who truly wants me. I just wonder if maybe this issue pushed her too far, even though we both decided on No Contact for the betterment of the relationship, time changes things, and now it's been a month without talking. I am truly scared I lost her.

Can anyone relate to this? Every once in awhile I feel sick to my stomach considering the fact that she may really, genuinely, be gone. That was not the intention when we agreed to do this, but life just isn't fair.

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pippakins · 19/12/2019 09:40

Yes I can relate to this. I have gone through the same thing with someone and last year we didn't see each other for nine months. We met again in January and have taken it slowly and now we are in a good place. Before that our relationship was the definition of toxic.

If she wants to be with you waiting a bit longer won't change her mind. Nor will pushing her before she's ready make her stay if she decides she doesn't want to.

I know exactly how hard it is to wait but I would give her another month, the perhaps reach out with a gentle "hope you're ok" and see what happens.

Thinkingabout1t · 19/12/2019 09:52

Maybe send a Christmas card? Just a simple one, no long message.

theBlackCrow · 19/12/2019 10:18

@pippakins - Thanks for sharing about that, I'm glad someone else is out there with a similar story I can relate to. 9 months is a really long time, I hope that wasn't what she had in mind when we agreed to this. Why did it take so long for you two to reconnect?

@Thinkingabout1t - Even though I feel like I am doing great, it's predominantly in terms of clarity. If I really think of us connecting in any way right now, I am not ready yet. In fact, I had cut contact once a month ago with her (not an agreed on thing, just a decision in the moment) and she reached out to me after about 2 weeks, and it was way too early and we repeated the same cycle. I like the idea about giving it maybe another month or so, maybe a simple card or message if I don't hear from her.

Right now I am just really terrified she is moving on. I went from knowing everything about her...to silence. I guess it's true if she's going to move on she will, regardless of what I do. And I want her to have that freedom. We didn't want to force anything. I've been grieving this as a breakup because I want to prepare myself just in case.

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pippakins · 19/12/2019 10:37

He had a lot of issues (still has) and in reality everyone told me the best thing for me to do was walk away. For me, it was too important to me to be able to do that and now I am glad I didn't. But he was not ready earlier which is why it took so long - he would push any sort of emotion away. Once we did re-connect I found everything easier to deal with as I was in a better place, and the arguments that happened before haven't happened since. But it was a very long nine months - I suppose it comes down to whether you think it's worth the wait.

dontgobaconmyheart · 19/12/2019 11:56

It really depends what the reason or reasons were doesn't it? I think it is easy to feel removed from them when you literally are, and are not being or living intimately with the person so stop viewing them so much as 'yours'. When that restarts theres every chance it will matter again- after all it will presumably still have been true. If a mark on the wall annoys me, it would do a lot less when I wasn't in that room..

I don't think any truly good match requires people to go as extreme as no contact with each other because they can't resolve a set of issues and it escalates fo that point.

If you aren't ready to get back together but don't (honestly) want her to move on either OP it adds weight to the fact the relationship was quite co-dependent. Co-dependency and romantic love are not the same thing.

I would read up on the concept, only contact her if your motivation is certainty that your relationship as it stands is what you want, rather than you feel distressed she may move on. Think about how healthy it really is and if you sre both satisfied it's the real deal and none of the above then go to relationship counselling together- develop the tools to deal with whatever the initial issue was that caused it to get so bad, and work on your communication. Without this it's unlikely to have longevity.

theBlackCrow · 19/12/2019 19:58

@dontgobaconmyheart - Thanks for the input!

I am very familiar with codependency, and this is not codependency, at all. I actually crave being alone and find it difficult to rely on people. I value my independence. That behavior of mine was what caused this entire issue in the first place.

This bad feeling is a simple case of not liking the idea of the love of my life falling in love with another - Of course that thought is distressing, and it would be to anyone, no? It's heartbreaking! But a part of me also understands freedom of choice, and letting people go.

"I don't think any truly good match requires people to go as extreme as no contact with each other because they can't resolve a set of issues and it escalates to that point."

In a perfect world, I would agree. Unfortunately often times relationships require honing and learned-skill. Like anything, you train and practice, and become better. Many of us don't enter into relationships equipped with perfect ways to handle issues that arise. And if we are equipped, it was usually by destroying past partners along the way and "learning lessons." In my case, I would have ruined any relationship I was in because of my issue, and I did, I have a history of this. My girl was the only one who loved and cared about me enough to get on my case, and get me into therapy. That's love. Someone that stays by you through your shit, even if it's best they step aside for their own self-care and value.

Now, I have been in therapy for 6 months and my therapist has said I am pretty much good to go and have conquered my shit.

So yea, in hindsight, this is all distressing - Recognizing my issues, and battling them head on. Admitting that I may have lost out on someone great because I hurt her. But I told her if our love is real I believe we will come back to one another. If her life takes her somewhere else, I have to accept that.

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theBlackCrow · 19/12/2019 20:11

@pippakins - I can relate to that. I think so long as your own well-being and mental health are kept in a positive state, then you're good. I definitely don't like the idea of long-term suffering in the name of "love." But the truth is that people outside of the situation will never truly understand, we all intake other people's lives under the glasses of our own personal biases.

We are similar, though, I think. For instance, I had issues with close intimacy and pushing her away. But she stayed by me and loved me. When it affected her, we broke up. Still, she stayed by me but distanced herself. She never stopped telling me she loved me and just wanted me healthy. And now I've been told by my therapist that I am changed. I'm opened to and welcome deep intimacy now.

So yea, sometimes love does conquer things, even when other people encourage discarding.

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theBlackCrow · 28/12/2019 05:08

She came back. Said she misses me and wanted me to help her get into therapy. Any advice? It's not like she's all lovey and flirty with me, so I find myself just anxious about it all, even though she's back. I don't want to fuck this up. I have never been in this situation before, and I know I can be quite a selfish person. Do I just respond to her casually and not try to make any moves?

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MadamBatty · 28/12/2019 05:20

The whole thing sounds like a head fuck for both of you tbh.

theBlackCrow · 28/12/2019 05:51

Well, it's not. Maybe it's coming across as darker than it really is in person

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IamMaisie · 28/12/2019 06:09

Stop with the drama.
She came back. You love her and she loves you apparently. It's really not that complicated is it?

Do I just respond to her casually and not try to make any moves

You've just spent a month worrying you've lost her. Why are you playing games? She's asked for your support, give it to her or let her go.

theBlackCrow · 28/12/2019 06:50

Ugh I'm terrible at relaying this. I am helping her, I spent all day searching for therapists and making a spreadsheet for her. I am glad she has decided to address her own issues.

I just meant regarding our "relationship" that we put on hold. Do I just treat this as a friendship and not push or initiate anything?

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ToBreatheAgain · 28/12/2019 07:37

Give her space. Be a friend, don't push for intimacy, definitely don't make any moves. Let her work on whatever it is she wants therapy for. Let her heal, then see where you are. If you push for more and she's not ready you'll just push her away. Maybe once she's been seeing a therapist for a few weeks suggest you both see someone together to see if you can truly resolve whatever the issues were that led to no contact. Give her time and space and platonic support. That's your best chance of actually fixing things, not just plastering over the cracks short term till it all falls apart again.

patchworkpatty · 28/12/2019 08:01

Oh for god sake ! Really ? It really isn't that hard . You live her she lives you. Stop all the bloody navel gazing and just tell her ! If she wants the same it will be unicorns and rainbows. If she doesn't (which I doubt as she's responded to you after being given a pretty good opportunity to bugger off) then she will tell you.

Just stop all the drama, second guessing and general arm chair psychology - and just have a relationship. If you end up rowing all the time then split. Really not rocket science.

fussygalore118 · 28/12/2019 10:01

Christ this is a bit dramatic and sounds like hard work. How long were you together? A couple of years.

What patchworkpatty said!

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