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Maybe at some stage you have to give up on the idea of another relationship? Not sure what I have to offer.

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notmuchtooffer · 11/12/2019 17:00

I have had one relationship in my life, and that has now ended in divorce. We were together for about 22 years. I divorced him for emotional abuse which mainly consisted of long silent treatments, withholding of affection, being short tempered etc. The divorce was horrible and we are not on speaking terms at all (we have dc). He moved out in the spring of 2018.

I am now 50 and live full time with the dc. I day dream about the possibility of a new relationship one day, but realistically, I don't see how that will happen? My entire time is spent either at work or at home with the dc, but even if I were to go out more, I am just not sure what I have to offer.

I think being in such a difficult relationship for so long has really taken its toll as the last few years were really toxic. It's difficult not to have a negative view of yourself. Added to which there is my age.

I think I have a sense of humour and am kind, but I also feel like a middle aged kind of formless person plodding to work and back, and being exhausted once I am at home.

I have joined a few OLD sites and am currently on one, but I always end up deleting my profile and have been on no dates. There have been weird messages, people who clearly were only after sex, someone who was living with his wife but "separately" Hmm, people who have lost interest after two or three messages.

Last night someone responded to a message I had sent and he sounded interesting (and could spell). We chatted for a bit but he was clearly also messaging other people. At some point he said it was late and it had been nice to meet me (virtually), but was online for ages and ages after that.

I guess most men on there are messaging multiple people at the same time, so able to give no one their full attention and in any case always looking for someone better? I am going to let my membership lapse at the end of this month as it is a downer really.

Recently someone came to do some work in my house and he was lovely. Made me remember what it might be like to actually meet and like a real life person (he is attached and younger but in any case that's not the point). He shook my hand and his hand was warm, and it made me remember what kind human contact might be like.

Honestly, I sound mad, but I have been lonely for YEARS. Including a large portion of my marriage. So there I was last night, waiting for more messages from this online stranger that I have no idea if I would actually like or not Confused.

It seems that everyone else is more well read, cultured, interesting, younger or attractive than me. Does there come a point where you think, fuck it, this is my life, just get on with it. There will be no more men.

I just can't shake the bitterness towards my ex either. For years I longed for his affection but it never came (in the second half of the marriage). If I had left then I might have stood a much higher chance of meeting someone new.

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maginachevalier · 12/12/2019 16:56

Hi op , if it's any consolation you are not alone. I am in my early thirties and single for seven years with a dc and I have given up altogether. So being younger makes no difference. It's hard to love yourself when it feels like no one wants you .
You are not alone Xmas Grin

ScreamingLadySutch · 12/12/2019 17:19

"I think being in such a difficult relationship for so long has really taken its toll as the last few years were really toxic. It's difficult not to have a negative view of yourself. Added to which there is my age.

I think I have a sense of humour and am kind, but I also feel like a middle aged kind of formless person "

absolutely, OP. You are not alone.

Leapoffaith00 · 12/12/2019 18:09

I just wanted to say hello 👋 and add - I am also single (10 years in may). I'm 42 with 3 dd's (one lives with her fiance). I find myself working, housework, running my dd's to their after school activities. The highlight of my self care week is a bubble bath and huge glass of red on a Friday evening. I sometimes dread the weekends as my dd's usually have plans with friends and I feel the loneliness more. I have online dated lots and I have actually just come to the decision this year, I'm done. I'm trying to make a life (it's so hard) so I will be less lonely when my dd's are not home. I feel lucky compared to many as I have my beautiful dd's company which is always lovely. I just need to fill the gap!
Sending you mumsnet hugs! There is some comfort in knowing we are not alone being alone.

notmuchtooffer · 13/12/2019 08:21

Thanks for all of your kind messages. Sorry I didn’t write yesterday but the election results were/are overwhelming Sad. Will get back in more detail later.

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LanternLighter · 13/12/2019 08:30

You could try sticking with the OLD and just see it as a bit of fun, a chance to go out, have a chat and do a bit of flirting. If you’re not actually looking for anything serious, you won’t feel let down and who knows when someone long term will com along when you’re not looking for them.
I went OLD to get my mojo back after a long marriage and being cheated on with a younger women. I just wanted some male attention without strings. Although I wasn’t looking for anything serious, my now DP came along and I couldn’t let him go!

notmuchtooffer · 14/12/2019 08:53

What I'm saying is that you probably do need to go deep- learn to love yourself at core level.. Yes I am going to try to do this. Love myself despite my flaws.

I am really touched by all the messages, and really relate to wanting to make a life for myself for when the dc leave home. If all of us on our own could form some kind of commune in which we offered each other daily support and friendship it would be great Smile.

How about you, OP, what do you want? A bit of human contact, a bit of night life? What does the average man on the street have to offer you?

Yes human contact, and an emotional and physical relationship I suppose, without living together. I wouldn’t mind short term things as long as I didn’t feel destroyed when they ended, there’s always the danger of being really hurt.

The online man and I have messaged quite a lot since I took the plunge and asked him directly if he still wanted to, and might meet up. He seems like a nice person via message and it has been interesting talking to him, but of course I have zero idea of whether we would gel in real life. Also, he has been on quite a few dates I think and said that though everyone was great, there wasn’t quite the right connection. So I guess he will meet me and think the same Grin. Or I will think that.

That’s the danger with me - he is the only person I am currently messaging and if I do meet him he will by my only and first date since my divorce so I feel that I am not lighthearted or strong enough to face the inevitable disappointment. (Still might meet up with him however Grin).

I guess you can also make friends through OLD?

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notmuchtooffer · 14/12/2019 08:54

In the end we are all looking for an end to loneliness IMO, but that makes us vulnerable to being hurt.

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Mumteedum · 14/12/2019 09:11

It is hard to put yourself out there. I had no expectations at all. First guy I met up with asked for second date and then wasn't interested. Even though I wasn't even sure if I liked him, I was upset. I kind of think I had to make myself try though. (I was fine the next day!)

Then with my dp, it took months of trying not to get anxious and he called it off at one point which really hurt but I had good advice from friends. They told me to be posisitve, take opportunity and be his friend and see what happens. So glad I didn't give up on him. He just got cold feet too. We all have baggage and sometimes takes time to work through.

Try and get out there and do it just for you. To have some nice dates and chats. Maybe you'll make friends, maybe you'll have some good horror stories to laugh about and maybe you'll meet someone special. You won't know unless you're brave enough to try.

You're nice though. I can tell. Have faith in yourself.

notmuchtooffer · 14/12/2019 16:53

You're nice though. I can tell. Have faith in yourself.. Thank you, and for your post. I am really glad it worked out with your dp.

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Dowser · 14/12/2019 22:41

Well me and my dh would never have met if it hadn’t been for old

After my exh Dicked me around for 4 years and with a 33 year marriage behind me, I realised I still liked men, so I put a profile on pof when my divorce came through.
I was 56 . I wanted to meet someone not from my town in case it didn’t work out. After chatting to several men and meeting one once who was very nice but obviously was dating a few, and there wasn’t much of a spark, I chatted to another one for 6 weeks and he’d had a couple of dates that backheeled him, so we met up and got in like a house on fire.

Five weeks later we were almost inseparable. He was a 55 year old widower with no children.
That was over 11 years ago and we’ve been married for 4, when I was 63
We’ve had a marvelous time and he’s my rock.

Never give up.

extraminx · 14/12/2019 23:27

I found the election results overwhelming in a positive way Smile. Don’t know why you brought your politics into it OP, but dismissive and disrespectful of others.

TimeForNewStart · 15/12/2019 01:53

If you go into it with the attitude So I guess he will meet me and think the same then that is almost certainly what will happen; people usually take us at our own estimation. The only people who find low self esteem attractive are bullies.

notmuchtooffer · 15/12/2019 07:39

extraminx but I was saddened by the result and that’s why I didn’t post, not sure how that is being dismissive of people who voted differently, I was explaining why I hadn’t been around and giving my personal view of the result. Not sure however why you are talking about your political views on someone else’s thread about relationships.

people usually take us at our own estimation yes I agree @TimeForNewStart, I will try to keep that in mind. To be honest I am finding this whole messaging someone you don’t know thing a bit strange and it has kind of made me anxious. Online man and I agreed we should meet up, but he hasn’t responded to the (brief) message I sent him last night so maybe he has changed his mind. I feel about 12 and have had butterflies in my stomach about all of this, analysing (re-reading) our past conversation and how I might have put him off.

Thank you for your lovely message @Dowser. I am really glad it worked out so well for you. I’ll try not to give up but am feeling a bit Confused about myself and all of it at the moment. Kind of embarrassed to have to thought anyone could like me or something. Maybe this feeling will pass.

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Dowser · 15/12/2019 13:37

What I liked about mine was the knowledge there would always be a message for me every day...that as lovely
There was. Reliable as clockwork
No messing me about. No second guessing
I just needed that
His user name had the word boring in it...I must’ve read reliable because that’s what he is
His care and concern for me is very humbling
We are so well suited.
( we can still bicker and have the occasional blow out..not very often..too darn old lol)

Menora · 15/12/2019 13:41

I know where you are coming from and OLD is a huge leap of faith - you really don’t know the person and you are putting your vulnerability into their hands when you open up to them, and when you put your feelings out there. It’s Ok to find this scary!

You need to find 3 things about yourself that is bloody great. You are great at maths, have a lovely laugh and a nice pair of boobs Grin You then go into a date (and life) knowing that you have those things and no one can take them away from you! If it doesn’t work out then Maybe it’s just he’s a bum man who hates maths, doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with you x

notmuchtooffer · 15/12/2019 17:57

His care and concern for me is very humbling.
We are so well suited.

It sounds lovely.

You need to find 3 things about yourself that is bloody great. You are great at maths, have a lovely laugh and a nice pair of boobs. Grin

Grin okay I will work on that.

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