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Please help me understand what really matters in a partner

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FiveSecondsMore · 10/12/2019 01:58

I could really do with some advice from people with more life experience than me. I'm in my early 30s (no kids yet), and have a partner (also no kids) of about two years who is really wonderful. He is kind, loving, considerate, intelligent, good-humoured, empathetic, loyal, honest, reliable, generous, humble, selfless, charitable, principled, supportive, and pretty much every other positive personality trait that I can think of. More than anyone else I've ever met, I think. But I've never felt my heart racing with him, and I've never been overcome with passion for him, and I'm really confused about whether that is something I should be prioritising in any way. We met through a mutual interest, and he's not someone I would have typically been attracted to (he's a bit unusual looking, in a perfectly pleasant way, but I've never thought "phwoar" or anything like that). I grew to like him, and we ended up in a relationship (though I suppose he was the one to make his feelings known in the first place, and I kind of thought "well, I enjoy his company, let's see what happens"). We currently live together, and he is very easy to live with, and takes on his fair share (if not more) of the housework and the mental load. The thing is, the way I hear people my age talk about choosing partners, you'd think that an intense desire to rip each others' clothes off is pretty much a non-negotiable. And it bothers me that I can think of people who DO give me that butterflies-in-stomach feeling (though I have no idea if they would be good partners in other ways, or even be interested in me), and I can't help wondering if I should be waiting for someone kind, considerate etc. who I also fancy the pants off. But what's the chance that I'll come across someone like that? I love my partner, and I feel very comfortable with him. I just can't help wondering if this is a form of "settling". I guess it also bothers me that I know plenty of people who say they have absolutely no doubts about the person they're with, and I've never had that feeling (do people genuinely feel that?), so that also makes me wonder if I'm looking at things in the wrong way.

So I'm hoping that someone with more life experience and wisdom can tell me what they've found to be the really important things in a relationship. I'm feeling increasingly anxious about all of this, especially as I'd really like to have children in the not-too-distant future. It seems to me that the people I've spoken to (who talk about how important it is to feel intense passion for each other) are generally of an age and background where they haven't had to deal with much going wrong in their lives, and so perhaps with that as the basis, the passion element seems very important. But what about when real life challenges enter the picture (e.g. pregnancy/childbirth/child-rearing, bereavement, financial troubles, serious illness etc.)? I'm wondering if then the passion thing becomes kind of irrelevant, and people change their minds about what's important in a relationship. Please help me understand what really matters as life goes on!

I realise it potentially sounds ridiculous to say "here is this person with all these great qualities who I get on with really well, and I'm worrying about whether I fancy him enough", but I have a tendency to try to be too logical about my decisions, and that has definitely ended badly for me in the past, so I'd really appreciate some other opinions!

OP posts:
N3V3R3V3R · 10/12/2019 02:21

I partner you like, respect and get on great with but don't actually fancy and have no passion for is just a friend.

lifeisgoodagain · 10/12/2019 02:52

Everyone is different. I was married for 20 years, I loved my husband but wasn't in love with him, and vice versa. It's only after we split and I met someone else that I knew what I had been missing, the butterflies in your stomach when you think about them, the longing, the willingness to move heaven and earth to be together. I was certainly happy enough before, I wouldn't have left h but I'm so happy he left me.

Happy enough is fine when times are good but is it for a lifetime? You are Young, don't you deserve butterflies???

FilthyforFirth · 10/12/2019 03:13

How is your sex life? Are you both happy with it?

My DH is all the things you describe. We get on incredibly well, he is an amazing father, could do more round the house but in general we are a great fit. Same interests, sense of humour, my best friend.

We never have sex. He isnt passionate, he has stopped being romantic or intimate (he is suffering from depression and blames his lack of interest on that). He has pretty much always been like this. I foolishly thought he would change.

I wont ever leave but it I had my time again I would not stay with him before marriage and a child. Having to accept that part of my life is over at 34 is hard.

My advice is this part of the relationship is important. If it doesnt feel right I wouldnt have children. You will feel stuck like I do. It's not a nice feeling.

20wedding19 · 10/12/2019 06:04

I used to date someone like this. You could not fault him - kind, polite, he obviously had his head screwed on as he had his own car and house at what is seen as a relatively young age. After 3 months, I got really frustrated with myself because despite all these amazing traits I did not feel that spark that is essential in a relationship.
After a bit of angst i decided to call things off.
My husband is an incredible person who i adore and like a pp has said, I would have moved mountains to be with him. We have been together for years now but I still look forward to coming home to him and all that other mushy stuff - when we married he wasnt in such a great position as my 'ex' was but wow, I realised that it not matter at all

Listen to your gut, and if the spark isnt there, think long and hard about what your next step will be. That spark will more than likely be the glue that sticks you together in hard times

MrsPeakyBlinders · 10/12/2019 07:34

I settled and married someone like this . He is now my ex. If you don't feel the spark now , how is it going to be in 30 years time ? I believe that this kind of situation too easily leads to the brother and sister type scenario living together . It is painful to lead a life of very little physical contact or deep affection . I am now with a new partner ( met late in life) and we have that spark - it's important for us to be in physical touch when we are with each other , tell each other our feelings etc . I know know what I was missing for all of my long marriage .

Expo · 10/12/2019 07:57

He is a nearly right. There are lots of nearly rights. You are young enough to leave him and go for a totally right. It’s worth it x

Capricornandproud · 10/12/2019 08:11

Its really hard op. How old are you? How long have you been together? I think you do need to get excited by someone coming home, and to have a spark. The ripping your clothes off bit can fade but the NEED to be with that one person will always be there. Sadly I lost the live of my life but I’ve never felt anything similar for anyone before or since.

I settled and married someone who wouldn’t cheat and because I knew he loved me. It didn’t work. I think it’s important to realise how dissatisfied you may be in your 50s and 60s as I think, nowadays, that age bracket seems more ‘middle aged’ than old!! Frienss if mine that age have busy lives and are in unhappy relationships and wish they’d made the jump years ago.

Xx

Capricornandproud · 10/12/2019 08:12

Excuse typos. Verrryyy early Grin

mindutopia · 10/12/2019 10:22

I think it depends on what you mean. I have certainly felt much more ‘tear each other’s clothes off’ passion with previous relationships. That’s not to say dh and I didn’t have some fun times in the early years. We definitely did. I certainly have felt some passion for him (and still do). But I wouldn’t say it compared to other relationships that were more based on lust and had less substance.

But he is a fantastic guy and we have always been very happy together and I am more attracted to him now, more than a decade after we first met than in those early days. The foundation of our relationship has been built on other things, shared values and ambitions, similar interests, similar approaches to work/life balance and parenting, and we just have a great time together. I would say overall I’m happy with our sex life. I think we both wish it was a bit more active, but with two small dc and busy careers, we don’t actually spend that many nights together when we aren’t exhausted or have a child sandwiched between us! I think that’s pretty normal for most couples in the stage of life we’re in.

But what matters is that we’re compatible, he is a truly great partner, puts up with my crazy professional life and carries a lot of work of the house and parenting when I need to be away, and we have a lot of fun together and never run out of things to talk about. The passion from the early years ebbs and flows and it changes as you get older (in any relationship). I think the solid foundations matter a lot more.

Bearski77 · 10/12/2019 12:33

It's really hard @FiveSecondsMore I'm in a 'friendship' marriage and really don't want to continue this way for the rest of my life. Until recently though, I had accepted this was it, and that I would never have sex again, or feel passion, or just have affection from anyone other than my children. Thinking back to when me and dh got together, I remember thinking things like, 'well at least I know he'll never hurt me, always be faithful' etc., but now I realise that's not enough. You say your partner is a good person, that list of positives, wow!!! I wish mine had a couple of those! But if you haven't got that spark, he's really just your friend. Me and dh went to counselling recently and she made an obvious point that I hadn't really thought of, when the subject of sex came up. She said sex is important, because it's the one thing, THE ONE THING, that makes a relationship more than a friendship. And it's so true. It's important. I have someone who brings out those ripping clothes off feelings, and I just want that so much. And I also want dh to have those feelings for someone. We are both holding each other back. I'm not sure I've helped at all, but I hope you work it out. We've only got one chance at life! Live it x

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