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how do you know when a long term relationship is over

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arewenearlythereyet · 20/08/2007 01:00

I know this is the million dollar question, but really how do people know when it is really really over? how did you know it was the end? (sipping long drink looking for answers)

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TheQueenOfQuotes · 20/08/2007 01:03

hmmm interesting question - dh and I were both 99.99% sure it was over for us in January this year........but it appears not - things are slowly but surely improving again (it got to the stage when I'd found a house to rent and he'd found lodgers to stay here to help him keep the house!).

sugarmatches · 20/08/2007 01:03

Well that is a loaded question!
Is it you that is thinking about ending things? Do you have children?

arewenearlythereyet · 20/08/2007 01:09

yes its me who's thoinking of ending things though not without provacation, have 5 children from marriage, then had a surprise babe from this relationship. there's 8 years between him and others. not sure we'd have stayed together for this long otherwise but really have no idea when enough is enouth, I would say I'm quite miserable now, but am sort of the kind of person that is a stayer.... will give as many details as needed but really don't want to bore you (reaches for long refresing drink and tries not to think of ds6 waking in early hours of a.m)

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hotchocscot · 20/08/2007 01:13

when you feel happier when he's not around than when he is. I knew my last longtermer was over because whenever he was away i felt lighter, like a load was lifted off my chest and I could breathe properly again. And when he was around, i just wanted to brain him with the wok all the time.

mamama · 20/08/2007 01:13

I think a lot of it depends on the type of problems. But, if you are so unhappy, that may be reason enough...

arewenearlythereyet · 20/08/2007 01:17

In a nut shell hot, I think thats how I feel, he's just moved back to his own place after living together for a while (at the istigation of my older children, but I didn't resist thier arguments to be fair) and as his stuff moved out I felt relief, but now I feel a bit bereft and lonely. doesn't help that youngest ds has been unwell so no sleep etc. I know there's no absolute answers to this but just wondered now others had finally decided such a monentous this.

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arewenearlythereyet · 20/08/2007 01:18

ps have no wok, but do have very heavy frying pan, which I so could have done some damage with,.....

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arewenearlythereyet · 20/08/2007 01:35

thanks for your thoughts queen, sugar hot and mama, guess this is one Ihave to work out for myself. Oh for an easy answer that is not to be found at the bottom of a bottle or anywhere other than my own head

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kama · 20/08/2007 02:23

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feelingfedup · 20/08/2007 08:03

when you spend more time apart than together (by choice)

when your sex life dissapears

when you spend more time fighting than laughing

when it becomes hard to agree on anything

when you feel alone, even when you are together

when he becomes only your partner and no longer your friend as well

when you are embarrassed to be seen with him

when you feel he is no longher worth the effort to look nice for

sadly, this is the point my relationship has reached......

warthog · 20/08/2007 08:15

yes, i agree. it's when you stop needing to ask the question.

hls · 20/08/2007 08:24

Can you imagine never seeing him again? Does that make you sad or relieved? Do you enjoy his company? Do you like doing things together? Are you feeling lonely now because you are missing HIM or just having someone around?

Anniegetyourgun · 20/08/2007 09:55

I believe in staying married and seeing things through, trying to overcome your problems, and spent 23 years doing just that, holding onto the positives, overcoming or ignoring the negatives. We have four DCs which H looked after while I worked, and life seemed to be rubbing along comfortably enough on the way to the grave, which I was quite looking forward to! I began to like the fact I was getting older and fatter because he wouldn't bother me with stupid jealousy - one day he'd surely look at me and see someone who no-one would steal, then we'd be fine, surely? I'd learned how to deal robustly with his sillier arguments, and had overcome his reluctance to go on holiday by taking one or another child for the odd weekend, leaving him out of it. As for the rubbish about the place and the increasing debts, well, if I played enough computer games maybe I could forget it was happening...

The day he called his sister and told her we were divorcing, with all sorts of fascinating details we were supposed to have worked out, which was quite honestly the first I'd heard about it, I felt a kind of dawning light and thought, you know, that would work. He didn't mean it, and denies now that it even happened.

So I agreed the marriage did indeed seem to be over, and of course it was a big shock to him as he had "never" thought anything was wrong! We had a long discussion and he promised to change. I felt trapped and panicky instead of happy, as I felt obliged to give him time to prove himself. A few days later when he started being arsey again I was actually relieved; I felt, thank goodness, I can go. We went to couple counselling, which he had refused with fury and contempt in the past, and he behaved like such an idiot that the only thing it did for me was to confirm I was right.

I still mourn the marriage and the absence of a loving partner he sometimes knew how to be, but it's just so over between us that I can't look at him and see someone I loved; that person has effectively died, if he wasn't always a figment of my wishful thinking. Sometimes I wish that shell of him that walks around with an annoying smirk in what is still currently our house would die too. Other times I wish him well but somewhere else, a long way away. Someone asked the other day what I would do if he got treatment for his depression and it turned him back into the nicer side of him, if that makes sense. I said it would be a good thing as he would then be a potentially better partner for someone in future. Not me! Never me!

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