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is my ex play games with me

28 replies

AsapRoki · 01/11/2019 14:55

Me and ex split up two weeks ago. He broke up with me because he found the way I communicated "guilt inducing" and that, as someone who works with people who have mental health problems, I should not express criticism to him in ways that upsets him because I should know how he thinks Confused

Ex is extremely introverted, shy and has little relationship experience. I was his first partner in 5 years. He has one previous six month relationship from his teens. He doesn't enjoy casual relationships. I think that is relevant.

Anyway, the relationship itself was very nice. We built a really good friendship before we became romantically involved, and dated for a long time before we entered into a relationship. He was very considerate and just generally a nice guy. I thought I had met The One. He told me the same thing, he spoke to marriage, kids etc.

There were a few red flags during the early days. He cried seemingly out of nowhere about things from his childhood and always told me he was "broken". A lot of our conversations were sad. I too had a bad childhood, and was happy to have conversations about it with him if it helped.

He also described himself as a creature of habit. He had a daily routine that made him feel comfortable, and in his words, less lonely. This involved excessive amounts of exercise in the evenings. At first, he was happy to adjust this to accommodate coming to visit me, especially at the weekends. But, as time went on, he seemed to insinuate that I was angry that he did his exercise in the evenings... this was never the case. I have a heavy workload and various interests that keep me busy! But, when I was staying at his over the weekend, I was obviously excited to make dinner/see him when he came back from his club. But he seemed to pick apart things I would say like "What time will you be home?" to mean "I am angry that you're not back now" Confused No matter how calm or nice those types of messages were, the outcome was always "you are criticising me".

So, I stopped bothering with normal texts of when he would be back - because, deep down, I probably thought to some extent I was being unreasonable and perhaps a little needy.

Anyyyway, there came a sticking point about three weeks ago in which I disagreed with a boundary in a relationship. A very small, almost insignificant boundary. We had previously discussed it, and he had made his feelings clear on it - he didn't like it, and doesn't think it's the right thing to do. He made a point of saying this with no hinting etc from me. Then I found out that he had done the exact opposite of what he said he would do. After a shite day at work I rang him and said:

Me: Why did you do that, when you said you wouldn't?

Him: I don't know.

Me: It makes me feel insecure.

Him: I won't do it again. I'm going to have to go now.

Immediately after said phonecall I text: "sorry for my insecurities there, just confused as you mentioned you wouldn't do it. phonecall wans't the best way to bring it up. Let's talk tonight. Enjoy club"

He didn't reply for three days - and I didn't contact him either.

When we eventually spoke, he said that I didn't even check up on him over those three days. He said I was a nasty person. Said I was being very manipulative and underhanded in criticising him. When I tried to reply to what he was saying he would tut, shake his head and avoid eye contact with me. He said breaking up was probably for the best because he couldn't be with someone who made him feel guilty.

... the only things that he mentioned which made him feel guilty were the texts about where he was/when he would be back, and this small (insignificant) boundary thing Confused

I didn't see the breakup coming, so I didn't really react that emotionally apart from sending a text apologising (but I don't know what for).

Anyway. I gave him space for a week and a half and then asked for a chat. We chatted over the phone for 6 hours. He then had his dinner, did his exercises and then rang me back for a further 3 hours.

In that phonecall, the breakup was not discussed at all. He acted as if nothing had happened. He was light and breezy, flirty and just laughing with me. This was on Sunday.

Monday comes and I send him a very light-hearted message about a news story we had spoke about - he responded within seconds. When I later replied - he didn't reply until Wednesday. And he was cold and distant in that text.

What the hell is going on?

I am usually quite collected and cool in relationships, especially breakups. I've done the whole begging for them back routine before, and vowed never to do it again. If someone finishes with me, I am able to focus on other things. But this has got me up all night, feeling/being sick, unable to eat, headaches, irritable etc. - mostly through the confusion.

We seem to have broken up because he can't take (fair?) criticism. He can treat me with contempt and then have a 9 hour phone conversation, then act like nothing has happened ... what's his game here.

OP posts:
AsapRoki · 01/11/2019 16:12

anyone Sad

OP posts:
ColaFreezePop · 01/11/2019 16:15

Move on and leave him alone.

Delete his number from your phone and block him on social media.

It's like you are picking at a scab.

Pinkbonbon · 01/11/2019 16:17

You work in mental health yet you don't recognise a cluster b personality disorder when you see one?

What's going on is he is manipulating and gas lighting you because he is not a 'nice' person at all.

pog100 · 01/11/2019 16:18

To be honest I can't for the life of me think why you would want to continue this relationship. Partners are supposed to actually make your life better, in an easy likeable way. This is basically way too much work!

funnylittlefloozie · 01/11/2019 16:27

He was absolutely truthful and honest with you, OP. He said that he was broken and manipulative. For some reason you ignored his warning, or thought you could heal him... and now you've seen his problems for yourself. Use this as a case study one day, but fgs do NOT try and get back with him.

billandbenflowerpotmen1 · 01/11/2019 16:29

Pinkbonbon. Immediately what I thought, EUPD

AsapRoki · 01/11/2019 16:33

@ColaFreezePop

it's not like I am harassing him - he spoke to me for 9 hours- I didn't make him.

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Happityhap · 01/11/2019 16:38

He seems very self-centred and has no consideration for you.
He's only nice to you when things are going his way.
I think you should leave him be.

Pinkbonbon · 01/11/2019 16:40

If you're speaking to someone for 9 hours on the phone (presumably stuck in a loop convoy wise) then you maybe need some help for your own mental health too as he is clearly driving you round the bend.

Read up on codependency for yourself, might explain why you are putting up with all this nonsense.

Pinkbonbon · 01/11/2019 16:40

*convo

Ohyesiam · 01/11/2019 16:46

Way too much hard work.

Winterdaysarehere · 01/11/2019 16:47

Get yourself a pet, much less stressful.
If he was a rat I would set a trap.
A non humane one.
He isn't a patient of yours.

You are not obliged to fix him...
Ltb.
Block and move on.

AtrociousCircumstance · 01/11/2019 16:51

He’s awful, you’re codependent, please move on. A relationship with him is such a masochistic self-destructive waste of your life.

emmetgirl · 01/11/2019 16:53

Blimey he sounds like hard work. Not sure I cousin be bothered.

Thornhill58 · 01/11/2019 17:18

When I was younger I had the time for men like these. Now I wouldn't entertained for a minute. Too much work and I can't cope with the emotional games.
Not for me.

unfathomablefathoms · 01/11/2019 17:32

Holy shit, I'm not sure you should be working with SUs.

What would your professional response be to a SU embroiled in such a toxic situation?

Pinkbonbon · 01/11/2019 19:40

Perhaps people who work with the mentally Ill are particularly susceptible to getting it into their mind that everyone who behaves a shitty way, does so because they are depressed/going through some sort of mental trauma (and that they can be helped or even cured).

But cluster b personality disorders don't work like that. These people aren't Ill. It's just who they are.

rvby · 01/11/2019 19:54

Come on OP. What are you doing.

Drop this guy and never talk to him again. Take care of yourself. You are not an emotional dumping ground, you are a person, and your relationships are meant to add to your life, not take away from them.

He told you who he was and you seemed to ignore it?? When people tell you who they are, and then show you who they are, you need to believe it...

itmightbeamistaketohaveasteak · 01/11/2019 21:42

A 9 hour telephone conversation? Wouldn't that drive the sanest person over the edge? Why - what was the driver?

lexiepuppy · 01/11/2019 22:06

Cluster b personality type, probably!

You sound like a codependent rescuer type.

He is using the good old intermittent reinforcement, hot/cold , push/ pull method to get you addicted to him and it's worked.

Block and delete him out of your life.

itmightbeamistaketohaveasteak · 01/11/2019 22:31

Could anyone explain what indicates cluster b as in specific quotes from the OP? I don't know a huge amount about mental health issues so i am just interested. I just re read OP and googled and could make head or tail. I hope you don't mind OP, thought it might help others too. Thank you.

AsapRoki · 01/11/2019 22:36

@unfathomablefathoms

I do my job very well. My personal life is nothing to do with my professional one.

There's a lot of diagnostics of a very complex PD going on here, in which not only the symptoms of EUPD need to be confirmed, but the pathology, pervasive and persistence of those symptoms. It is not clear he has a PD at all.

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Pinkbonbon · 01/11/2019 22:40

Op we can all tell somethings up with the guy based on q few paragraphs so...why aren't you seeing it?

Normal neurotypical people do not go about gaslighting others. It is the domain of the narcissist and similar. It really isn't hard to spot.

Pinkbonbon · 01/11/2019 22:44

Sorry that was a bit arsey of me.
But still true.

Justtryingtobehelpful · 01/11/2019 23:01

I think he is acting like this on purpose. I've read on here about other people who work with abusive men and still fall for someone controlling.
This sounds like he is being manipulative on purpose.
Read the Lundy book, Why Does he do That, and you'll find some of these bendable explained there.
I would stay away from him if it was me.
All the best....