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To not understand why we’re friends now

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Peregrine2019 · 26/10/2019 10:41

I’ll try not to make this too long. I was going out with a man for just over a year. It was fairly volatile and I kept breaking up with him every few weeks or so. I hadn’t got over my ex boyfriend who I’d been with for 8 years and who had been my only real relationship and a very deep intense one who I’d loved very much. Also my new boyfriend was sometimes selfish and insensitive and I generally felt it wouldn’t work. However we always kept trying and looking back I do just think more than anything it didn’t work because I wasn’t in the right headspace for a relationship then. Anyway he broke up with me for good at the end of July this year. And I was devastated. I spiralled into a deep depression.

I think for me it wasn’t just him breaking up with me but it signalled the ending of my other relationship and I was forced to process a lot of stuff that I had buried deep down. I spoke to him twice afterwards and he was king and sympathetic and listened to me but explained it just wasn’t going to work and he wanted to move forwards not backwards.

Since then I’ve been having psychotherapy and it’s been really helpful. I’ve started to move forwards very slowly and although I’m still very down and feel vulnerable about lots of things I’m also taking very baby steps to try and get through everything that’s happened in my life.

Out of the blue about 3 months later he messaged me a very nice message asking how
I was, hoping I was ok and asking to be friends but said he understood if I didn’t want to or I needed more time. I thought about it for a few days and then decided a polite but distant relationship might be good as we work in the same industry and I thought maybe he also wanted to smooth things over as it’s not a big industry and we know very many mutual people. Since then he messages every few days and is very chatty. I had an event this week I needed to go and my colleague dropped out last minute and my ex boyfriend offered to come - this is not unusual as the event was directly related to a project we’d both worked on together - it’s the first time I’ve seen him since we broke up and we got on very well. And it just made me feel very sad. It seemed clear to me he just wants to be friends. And although I’m not even sure it would work being with him again I’m also not sure I can just be friends. I feel quite confused about the whole thing.

I suppose I’m jusy wondering why does he want to be friends? We both have friends and it’s not like we need another friend in each other really. I think he may have told a mutual colleague that we were better as friends. I’m slightly guessing that from something he said. But I guess I just don’t understand why he wants to be friends unless his romantic feelings are completely dead. Which they must be.

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Peregrine2019 · 26/10/2019 10:46

And to ask what do I do going forwards now.

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Preggosaurus9 · 26/10/2019 10:47

Who cares why HE "wants to be friends" ?

Care about yourself. What do YOU want. What would suit YOU best. What would be the best way for YOU to continue moving forward with your life.

fanstar · 26/10/2019 10:49

It sounds like he is a genuine good guy who cares about you but has accepted that friendship is the only way forward for you both. He sounds really mature.
Don't try and get back together with him though - you have messed him about and luckily ended up with a good friend but it would be unfair on him to try and rekindle things.

PicsInRed · 26/10/2019 11:29

Also my new boyfriend was sometimes selfish and insensitive and I generally felt it wouldn’t work

He doesn't sound that nice. Why does he want to be friends? Maybe to keep you as an option in his harem? Who knows, but if it doesn't work for you, it doesn't happen.

I can see the issue with you being part of a small work community. You'll need to carefully phase him out to a fully cordial but professional relationship.

Just take longer and longer to reply to messages, only reply to those that "require" a response (e.g. questions), keep answers brief, non personal, non flirty. He should eventually get the message with a minimum of offense.

I would caution you not to allow him to charm you back in again - that's a risk if he feels he's "losing" hold of you.

Peregrine2019 · 26/10/2019 13:37

Yes I think he was a bit emotionally immature at times and selfish ... but then again I always felt a bit one foot out of the relationship so it’s hard to judge how much was also because of me.

I don’t really know what I want apart from feeling quite sad. I suppose I’m just surprised that he can be friends so easily after it all. But maybe he can.

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sonjadog · 26/10/2019 13:48

Do you want to be friends with him? I think I would focus on that first and foremost if I were you. It sounds like you are unsure about that. You don't have to be friends just because he wants to. If it is too soon, then it is too soon.

Peregrine2019 · 26/10/2019 13:54

For the last month since he got in touch he’s been messaging every few days. He always starts the conversation. I rarely if at all do. I just find it confusing. I think I’ll need to really think about whether I do want to be friends.

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Bluntness100 · 26/10/2019 13:58

I'd suspect because he likes you and cares about you, even though he is no longer romantically interested, there is no finite number of friends you can have. It's not like you have a certain amount and then you don't need more.

If you cannot be friends with him as it hurts too much then just distance yourself, stop responding so quickly etc. There is no need to tell him why.

SnorkMaiden81 · 26/10/2019 14:02

Honestly there's probably still some feelings on both sides. This is another brief honeymoon period but it won't last, there's no pressure on either of you at the moment but things could get complicated very quickly.

Never cross the same river twice.

Interestedwoman · 26/10/2019 14:11

'I suppose I’m jusy wondering why does he want to be friends? We both have friends and it’s not like we need another friend in each other really.'

I know some people feel this way, but a lot of us like having as many friends as possible, and don't feel that there are only a certain number of vacancies. There doesn't necessarily need to be some other motive- perhaps he likes you as a person. :)

If you don't feel comfortable with it though- don't do it. Maybe eventually reply to a message just to be polite for the industry's sake if you have to, but leave it at that.

Peregrine2019 · 26/10/2019 14:17

I completely get that there’s no finite number of friends. But when you have a very recent romantic connection with someone and it was upsetting to end I suppose I just think unless you’re desperate for friends that’s just one friendship that’s needless- unless of course there’s really no complication or unsettling feelings for you. Maybe that’s how he feels. I don’t think I’m quite there yet though.

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Bluntness100 · 26/10/2019 14:45

I suspect it's less complicated for him than you op. He's been clear he doesn't wish to go back there. If you're not in that place yet, there is no shame in it, everyone feels things differently.

sonjadog · 26/10/2019 14:56

He broke up, right? In which case he will have processed some feelings before doing that. I think the dumper is usually ready to move on quicker that the dumpee because of this. It is feasible that after three months he is done with the feelings, still likes you as a friend and wants that, but has no romantic feelings.

Ohyesiam · 26/10/2019 15:03

Sto trying to second guess his motivation, and honk about what works for you.

If it doesn’t feel simple( and being confused is the opposite to simple) , don’t do it.

justilou1 · 26/10/2019 15:10

Perhaps it suits him to further his industry goals

Peregrine2019 · 29/10/2019 22:27

I think I don’t want to completely walk away in case this friendship might end up back in a relationship. I still miss him. I don’t understand how he can be friends so quickly within months without any romantic feelings there. And part of me thinks maybe if I give it time and we allow ourselves to be friends first it might work better this time. I don’t want to say this to him though in case it puts too much pressure or scares him away. But if it definitely is just friends then I’m not sure that’s what I want. For now anyway. I guess I just have to be patient.

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Peregrine2019 · 29/10/2019 22:29

I am also going on dates with other people. Should I tell him this? Frankly none of them really interest me.

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dididrogba · 29/10/2019 22:50

It depends the reason as to why he broke up with you, and why he said it wouldn't work

... have those issues been resolved?

Also It seemed clear to me he just wants to be friend - why?

In my experience, and I'm not saying this to get your hopes up, a man very very very rarely will invest time in a friendship with an ex-girlfriend.

northerngirl2012 · 29/10/2019 22:55

You’ve said yourself you work in the same industry, in years to come you might end up working on similar projects etc. Keep him as a ‘work type friend’ so when you do see him at related things you can be friendly & pleasant. Doesn’t mean you need to meet him for coffee frequently.

Peregrine2019 · 29/10/2019 23:08

... have those issues been resolved?*

For me they have. I’ve been having psychotherapy since our break up and I’ve processed and come to terms with many things that were upsetting me. I think I would react very differently now and be able to give the relationship a proper go - but I have no idea if he is different and maybe whether he has changed at all. Probably unlikely I guess but given I’m in a different space now I think our dynamic would be different in any case.

Why do I think it’s clear he wants to be friends? Just at this event, he gave no hint or indication that it was anything more than that for him. He went to bed fairly early and that was that.

In my experience, and I'm not saying this to get your hopes up, a man very very very rarely will invest time in a friendship with an ex-girlfriend.

You see I think this too in a way. The event was an overnight thing on Thursday. We spoke on Friday. Didn’t hear from him since. Today a phone call from him for a “chin wag” and then a string of messages. I just find it so confusing in a way. He did say when we broke up and I was very upset that he hoped we could be friends at some point in the future. I thought it was just something he was saying or that he meant very far down in the future. But this just seems strange to me. I wish I knew for sure whether it was just friendship he wanted. Maybe he’s just seeing himself and resting the waters?

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meyouandlulutoo · 30/10/2019 10:40

I think for me it wasn’t just him breaking up with me but it signalled the ending of my other relationship and I was forced to process a lot of stuff that I had buried deep down. I spoke to him twice afterwards and he was king and sympathetic and listened to me but explained it just wasn’t going to work and he wanted to move forwards not backwards.

This couple of sentences from your OP interested me. When you describe your ex as sometimes selfish and insensitive I wondered if this was because he knew a lot of the problems in your relationship was because you hadn't yet got over your previous 8 year relationship with an ex boyfriend you had been very much in love with and he felt you still were?

I see that you have been having psychotherapy and it is helping you to come to terms with everything that has happened in your life. This suggests that there is more than just these 2 relationships that have affected you, but I may be reading more into it than there is.

Your ex boyfriend seems as if he does care for you, and he may be offering no more than a hand of friendship to someone (you) who he feels is vulnerable and he worries about.

Peregrine2019 · 30/10/2019 14:22

Hello meyou- you are completely right. There aren’t more than these two relationships hay affected me. In fact something that happened throughout childhood and early life fundamentally affected me and my subsequent relationships and the psychotherapy is helping to try and put that to bed and in the past. Neither of my boyfriends although sympathetic really got how badly affected I was by it and how my current life and decisions I made needed to be framed around it. This isn’t a slight on them, I do wonder if anyone really could but hey ho. It’s my issue to try and work out and resolve and I think I am getting there with that.

I also wonder how much of his insensitive behaviour came from vibes i out out about my previous ex boyfriend and how I wasn’t over it. He certainly was aware that it was a long relationship, one I treasured and had loved very much. It’s because of this that makes it harder for me to judge how much of his behaviour was true incompatibility or not. But maybe I just let it go and move on.

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meyouandlulutoo · 30/10/2019 22:30

I'm so sorry to hear that early life experiences affected you and your relationships - I did wonder. I'm glad that you are finding some resolution through your psychotherapy sessions.

The level of communication you are receiving from your ex boyfriend would indicate to me that he cares and values your friendship, I'm sure your own judgement and consideration will help you decide whether you reciprocate or whether you find it too painful and move on. I don't know, of course, but I agree with your observation that he is offering friendship and not a revival your relationship.

Interestedwoman · 30/10/2019 22:46

' Neither of my boyfriends although sympathetic really got how badly affected I was by it and how my current life and decisions I made needed to be framed around it. This isn’t a slight on them, I do wonder if anyone really could but hey ho.'

Yes I'm sure some people to an extent can. Everyone is shaped by their childhood and reacts to it. Lots of us have been through things that effected us deeply. You are not alone. xxx I'm sure your exes have their own issues too.

One thing I will say is please, please, please don't let him use you for sex, or fall into a sexual relationship with him without a lot of discussion and thought or anything. That's a surefire way to get hurt again. x

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