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Is he having a breakdown or being an a- hole?

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peachypeachy999 · 22/10/2019 21:48

Sorry, its long.
I came out of a 23yr marriage that was really happy until the last 3 years, when I couldn't recover from an affair I discovered. Not an acrimonious split, just sad.
Then I meet this guy through a friend. Thought nothing of it.
He chases me.

Then I had a complete shag fest for 4 months, literally. It cheered me right up. We spent every day in bed, (during school hours - we both have x 2 teenagers) shagging each other senseless. He ran his own business and I chose my hours.

Then he said he ought to really get back to work as his business started to fall behind so we got a bit sensible about it but we really did fall in love. He was fun, funny, successful, a bit arrogant, I fancied him. He took me to meet his family abroad, we've taken his kids on holiday. We've been together just over a year now.

He isn't perfect, he can say careless things that offended me sometimes, he isn't particularly thoughtful and it transpires that he is quite damaged from being sent to boarding school in Africa, aged 4. He has a deep fear of rejection and has quite a fragile sense of self. He gets stressed easily, he's quite disorganised in most aspects of his life. He has an ex wife who still calls on him for everything and he obliges. (He left her and feels guilty, plus he has no family here and she's his safe place I think)

Here's my problem though. He gets really stressed with work.
A few weeks ago it really started to ramp up.
Every time I'd visit it was like a prolonged counselling session.
It would take hours of talking through everything to calm him down and it was beginning to wear me out.

I took on a new job in July and its a massive commute, really long hours and a steep learning curve. I feel exhausted and terrified all the time as I'm really out of my depth. I could do with a bit of support, but all we talk about is him.

3 weeks ago, I had worked so many hours and was so stressed I ended up in bed for 2 days. My boyfriend did nothing for me, my ex husband called my boss, took care of everything, filled the fridge and cooked dinner. The next time I visited my boyfriend there was a large vase of fresh flowers in his lounge that he had bought for himself and I was a bit hurt.

A couple of days later I came home exhausted to my teenage daughter having a meltdown. My boyfriend calls and I don't respond, he texts too but I'm feeling really stressed and don't respond for a couple of hours.
I text an apology, say I've had a nightmare day and I'll catch up in the morning.
He sends me a little video message in the morning saying he hoped I was ok and that he had a full weekend of work, I respond with a text(feeling a bit miffed that he had dedicated the weekend to work) saying 'ok, sounds like you are busy, have a good weekend!'

He calls again, I don't answer.
I realise I'm being unreasonable, I message on the sunday apologising, saying I'd had an absolute nightmare week, had felt ill with stress, had got my period and just needed a couple of early nights, baths and quiet time. I said I'd hoped he had a nice weekend and could I take him out to dinner the following night.

He responds coldly, he is clearly upset. He says he is massively under pressure with work and trying to juggle his kids and he can't deal with anything else. He said he really needs to focus on work and he hoped he would see me later in the week.
We usually see each other at weekends and a couple of nights through the week and message every day.

I just text reply - ok

Then I heard nothing at all, all week. I messaged him on friday and asked if he had had a productive week and would he like to go out that night.
He didn't reply until the following day, saying that he was massively under pressure with work, he had tight deadlines and could meet me for a quick coffee the next day. I think - gulp - I'm going to get dumped!

I call the friend who introduced us, asking if he'd seen boyfriend this week. he says he saw boyfriend in the week and he didn't even look up from loading his car upon being greeted and when asked how he was he just barked - 'stressed', friend followed up with a text message asking if he was ok, he replied, no - stressed! They are best friends.

Anyway, We meet. For 20 mins. He looks awful. he says he wakes up in the morning feeling like he's been crying all night. He literally can't cope with all the work pressure and he apologised for pushing me away but he just can't deal with anything else. He asked me to go home with him for sex, I declined.
He said he had to go after 20 mins. He said he loved me and left.
Heard nothing since.

I'm torn between feeling desperately sorry for him and wanting to support him, to very hurt that he has pushed me away. It seems something had to give and that was me.
I did message him over the weekend, prompting him to eat and get some rest, I tried to call but he didn't pick up.
He texted, I'm not blanking you, I just have too much to do.

Now I just feel lost and upset. He has been functioning. He has met with a friend, seen his kids, been on long dog walks etc but no messages to me, nothing.

Not sure what to do? He is the type that shoots from the hip and makes snap decisions, so the wrong move will end things abruptly.

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Aquamarine1029 · 22/10/2019 21:55

He's a self-absorbed, narcissistic man child. You really need to ask what to do? Run down The hills and find someone who gives even one fuck about you.

MarianaMoatedGrange · 22/10/2019 22:02

If you're not up to counselling him or providing sex, he doesn't want to know. Kick him to the kerb.

peachypeachy999 · 22/10/2019 22:07

Hmm thanks. that's 2 strikes in the column marked 'a-hole' !!
I'm absolutely breaking my heart over this guy.

We were having a lovely time until recently

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DoctorAllcome · 22/10/2019 22:09

Well you’re both running hot and cold, so it’s going to die out.
Sounds like a relationship is too much stress for both of you right now.

quincejamplease · 22/10/2019 22:12

He asked me to go home with him for sex, I declined.

What the fuck? This is so incredibly messed up.

He said he loves you. He isn't behaving like he does. Sounds more like he said it to try and keep you hanging around for more of this rubbish.

My vote is that he's an arsehole.

ScreamingLadySutch · 22/10/2019 22:17

Look at attachment styles

LuvMyBubbles · 22/10/2019 22:17

Too intensive. Sorry you need to move on and concentrate on you and someone who values you.

MidnightMystery · 22/10/2019 22:25

Well from what I read there it's possible he's having a breakdown I say that because of the way he snapped at his friend. Also most of us know that sex is a good stress reliever so I don't see that as a massive arsehole especially as you declined and he wasn't nasty about it.

Perhaps though you are both stressed and the honeymoon period is over.

The only thing you can do is communicate to see where you stand I guess. X

TimeforanotherChange · 22/10/2019 22:27

It just all sounds too hard work to be honest. You could have done with support from July - and have received nothing. The pair of you sound like work is killing you and neither of you has anything left for the other.

I agree with DoctorAllcome who says a relationship just sounds like too much stress for both of you at the moment.

WomensRightsAreContraversial · 22/10/2019 22:27

I'm getting deja- vu did you post about this recently? If not there's a very similar post right down to flowers that aren't for you.

He is showing you where you are on his priorities list. You deserve somebody who will put you higher than this.

WomensRightsAreContraversial · 22/10/2019 22:30

He is the type that shoots from the hip and makes snap decisions, so the wrong move will end things abruptly.

I'm worried that this translates into; you have to walk on eggshells and can't have an honest conversation when things are hard. That's no way to be in a relationship Flowers

Whatisthisfuckery · 22/10/2019 22:45

Well, he might be having a stressful time but that’s not it really is it. You spend hours and hours soothing him, talking about him, pandering to his needs, yet he gets one on him when you are stressed and need support. He wants to have sex with you after not speaking to you for a week, then when you decline he goes silent again. Either he’s gone silent because you refused sex or he would’ve gone silent even if he’d got the sex he wanted. He doesn’t sound like much of a catch tbh.

You can put me down for a tick in the arsehole column as well. He doesn’t sound like partner material, he sounds self absorbed and like a moody child. I’m guessing that’s not what you want in a partner.

Elieza · 22/10/2019 22:46

Can he not get to a counsellor for support?

justilou1 · 22/10/2019 22:56

Your body is not a tool to be used for his stress relief, Love. I’m very pleased you turned down his very generous 20min sex window.

Have you felt at all cared for or nurtured at all by this guy when you were sick or emotionally down?
My guess is that he isn’t available for that.

peachypeachy999 · 22/10/2019 23:14

Hello, thanks for all your replies.
The weekend when I was a bit off with him I was feeling hormonal, stressed and pissed off about him not caring for me when I was ill. I was also pissed off when I saw the flowers and the last evening we had together left me feeling drained and flat, I left feeling like a mug.
I’ve been feeling all over the place today.
Being ignored is utterly torturous.
I posted a card with some cash in it for his son’s birthday this weekend.
I decided that I would wait until the weekend had passed and if I hadn’t heard anything, I’d collect my things when he was at work and leave my key.
But listening to you guys maybe I should just get it done.

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nomoreclue · 23/10/2019 00:17

What has he done to support you? Where’s your needs being met in this relationship? You had a bad time and he was absent. What’s the point? That’s how it’s going to be. He wants to bang you for his own relief but not give you what you need. How crap.

Interestedwoman · 23/10/2019 00:30

The two aren't mutually exclusive- someone can have a breakdown and be an a-hole at the same time, in fact it's very common.

I agree with @nomoreclue . I don't think he considers your needs and acts on them, which is what a partner should do.

You are no-one's unpaid therapist/psychiatric nurse, and you haven't been having the best time either. A relationship needs to cut both ways.

justilou1 · 23/10/2019 00:46

Interesting that your ex had your back when you needed someone.

Elieza · 23/10/2019 09:18

It sounds like a breakdown in communication. The relationship is currently one way. You do all the giving.

He is so wrapped up in his work that he is not thinking about anything else. He probably is having a breakdown. He needs to go to his manager and let him know he is struggling. It could be he is doing far too much, covering two posts or something. Or he’s just not suited to his current job. Or shit at it! What he can’t do is ignore the problem and hope it will get better. It won’t. Unless of course he knows more staff are starting in November or somesuch and that will ease the workload considerably.

The question is why doesn’t he do more for you. Is it because he is exhausted himself and burned out, or because doesn’t want to crowd you in case you bolt like an ex did, doesn’t understand your needs, or doesn’t care about your needs.

Once you work that lot out you can choose how to proceed.

I had an ex who was not good at understanding others needs or reading signs in the relationship that I expected him too. I think he was on the spectrum and couldn’t do it. But I needed someone who could be intuitive and instinctively help me like I help them. He told me to tell him what I needed. I tried that but it was hard work. So I had to leave him as I felt we weren’t the best match for each other and he was exhausting me. Both parties in a relationship need to have their needs met. Not just him.
You could try talking to him and explaining how you felt and how he did nothing for you and see what he says.
It was good you ex helped. He sounds like he ‘got it’.

Shame your bloke didn’t get it. Inclined to think he’s an ass but that may just be me...

PirateWeasel · 23/10/2019 09:33

So he could take time off from his work when he wanted nonstop sex with you for days on end, and now he's realised that was probably a poor business decision and is feeling the pressure to make up time. Bit of a plonker, I'd say. Unreliable and self-gratifying, with no ability to prioritise and forward plan. I'd bin.

hellsbellsmelons · 23/10/2019 09:42

so the wrong move will end things abruptly
YOU make the right move and end things now.
He's a twat - quite frankly.
Just re-read your posts OP.
What would you advise a friend?
You'd tell her to run!!!
He's not good enough for you.
He is self-absorbed.
Sound like a narc as well.

He was good at Mr Right NOW but he is NOT Mr Right!
Dump and run OP.
Fast..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Pinkbonbon · 23/10/2019 09:49

Another vote for narcissistic man child. It's all about his needs and its very telling that when you really need emotional support, he blows cold. Infact, to the extent he's gone I'd say it was his way of punishing you, for not being there to be his sounding board at any given second of the day.

The intensity at the start too would have been consistent with narcissist love bombing.

peachypeachy999 · 23/10/2019 18:43

I collected my things today and left my key.
I messaged to say that I’d done it as he doesn’t have a letterbox and I had to leave the key hidden.
He replied - why? I just needed some time.
Then 10 minutes later he sent - “ok - whatever you want “

It’s done.
I called my ex husband to ask if he collected our kids ok as I was late back from the office and he invited me round for supper, I’m on my way now.
Sausage casserole. Oh well .

Thanks for helping x

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Pinkbonbon · 23/10/2019 19:45

Well done op! CakeWineFlowers

Block his number as his type don't like things ending if it isn't them that does the ending.

peachypeachy999 · 23/10/2019 21:51

I had a nice evening with my family.
I was well fed and had a glass of wine then nodded off on the sofa, my ex husband offered me his spare room but I declined and came home. I didn’t tell them I’d left the boyfriend.

I honestly don’t think I’ll hear from him, maybe a few weeks down the line when work subsides or he needs sex, whichever comes soonest. I will need to stay strong though. It would be hard to block him.
I’m willing him to apologise and admit he’s behaved badly, even though I cannot go back. It’s just inviting more misery.

I’m going for a run in the morning, first one since I was ill. I need to get back up to top performance if I’m going back on the market !!!

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