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Desperately seeking relationship advice...

73 replies

Bush321 · 20/10/2019 18:55

Right got a feeling this is going to be a long one so sit tight... and congratulations if u make it till the end!

I met my partner in early 2017, I was 30 he was 50. We enjoyed spending time together, it was all very casual but it worked for both of us.

By October 2017 he told me he couldn’t find work in our town but had secured work in another country so off he went. We stayed in touch as friends, with the odd flirty message being exchanged. Then I started visiting him, we started talking daily, not a month would pass without me getting on a flight.

He flew home to visit me, stayed in my house and we started to feel like we were entering into a proper relationship. When either of us left there were tears and promises to see each other soon.

By this point I had really fallen for this man, I told him this and was always met with it will never work while we live so far apart. Every time I broached him with it he shot me down. So I decided not to waste any more time and try live my life for me and be happy here.

I cut contact, met someone else in July 2018 and was getting on just fine. He started messaging me again, telling me he missed me and the other man wasn’t for me. I should get back to seeing him, he promised me marriage and that he would come home to be with me.

So the inevitable happened and I told the other guy it wasn’t working out. I got back into the habit of flying every three weeks to see my partner, with promised he would be home at Xmas 2018, then it was March, June, September and still he isn’t home.

He is now still in the other country, with no job and no where to live (he is kipping on a mates couch) we r nearly in November 2019 and he hasn’t kept to his end of the bargain.

I kno he has feelings for me although he never expressed them very well, he never says he loves me, never compliments me. And tbh I’m starting to feel like I’m wasting my time.

I brought up the subject with him earlier this week that my time waiting for him had come to an end, he was always aware it wasn’t infinite. He promised me again he would come back to move in to my home and start living our lives together.

I came off the phone more positive and thinking this was finally it. I had said I would be willing to pay for his flight home he just had to pick a date (I Thot as he wasn’t working it would be pretty soon)

On speaking with him this morning he’s now informed me he’s looking for “a few more weeks work” where he is...

I have mentally, physically, and financially carried him for the past almost 3 years... should I cut my losses now? Or hold on just another short time to see if he actually comes back to me?

God I sound so pathetic, and I’m actually not. I’m hard working, I have a job, I’m currently studying for my criminology and law degree as well as raising my teenage daughter on my own. I have a good life, I just wish I knew one way or the other if I need to move on or don’t give up hope. Please help

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Bush321 · 21/10/2019 14:27

Yeah think I will need to revisit it however the first one was drastic...
I find it so hard to give up on someone, but reading my reply’s has actually started to make me doubt what quality of life I would have with him in my home.
He would be moving back here with no work, he doesn’t drive, and has a inflated sense of self worth so wouldn’t take just any job. However he has no real skills that any employer would fight over.
God this is such a mess... I’m already supporting him financially, I pay his phone bill, I pay for every last thing when we r together, I don’t think even financially I could carry the burden if he was to come home

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over50andfab · 21/10/2019 14:46

Well the ball is totally in your court, and it’s actually not that much of a mess. You can stop supporting him financially at any time. You owe him nothing. I do think he will start telling you all he thinks you want to hear if/ when you do this though. He seems to be relying on your feelings for him, whilst doing just what he wants.

Bush321 · 21/10/2019 14:49

I feel like I’ve almost backed myself into a corner... how do I take a full 360 from telling him I need him home to saying u kno wot I’ve changed my mind... that would be very cruel of me, turning his full life, and out plans on their head

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 21/10/2019 14:51

Absolutely cut all ties with him immediately.

He's bleeding you dry; emotionally and financially.

He's been dragging this out without meeting his side of the bargain and with no commitment at all. What kind of man is happy for you to support him from another bloomin' country? Has he no shame at all?

Focus your energy on yourself and your DD; this man will just take and take and take... stop paying for his phone bill as well.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 21/10/2019 14:52

that would be very cruel of me, turning his full life, and out plans on their head

No it wouldn't be. You have nothing to feel guilty about - he has been exploiting you!

Just tell him that you can't afford to continue supporting him and you're not prepared to wait any more.

Then BLOCK.

Come on, take some control back here. He doesn't get to call all the shots all the time.

Bush321 · 21/10/2019 14:54

How do I end it? I’ve never been able to do this in previous relationships... I either just take it until they have taken all they have needed and left me, or I totally blow and look like a crazy bitch
I want to do this properly

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Bush321 · 21/10/2019 14:56

@GreenFingersWouldBeHandy thank u for ur advice I defo need to bite the bullet and end it...
it’s not resting easy in my gut, giving me a heavy heart and a sore head. It’s affecting me sleeping and I’ve not eaten properly in over a fortnight.
He is just off the fone, saying the day will come soon that I need to buy him his flight ticket and it actually made me feel a little sick

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 21/10/2019 15:34

If you don't feel able to say it in person, could you text it to him? Just say that you're no longer in a position to support him or buy him a return ticket. 'This relationship isn't working for me anymore.'

You don't have to say any more than that. If it's making you unable to eat, yes you really do need to bite the bullet. Good luck. Flowers

Bush321 · 21/10/2019 15:40

Thank u...
I think I may just need to put my big girl pants on and phone him, I feel txt would be pretty harsh...
I will keep u posted how it goes

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 21/10/2019 15:47

Please do. And let us know if you need a handhold. But please do not waste any more of your life waiting for him to come back.

If he's not able to keep a job, chances are you'd end up supporting him financially in this country too, even if he did come back!

happycamper11 · 21/10/2019 22:00

OP is he currently in a holiday resort?

Interestedwoman · 21/10/2019 22:19

As a PP has said, a pros and cons list is actually very mature.

'getting stoned'

Oh man, this is a 50 yer old guy!

'He is just off the fone, saying the day will come soon that I need to buy him his flight ticket'

Was that supposed to impress you?:)

You're obviously a motivated and ambitious person- he's nothing like you. He has nothing to offer you at all.

I think his lameness would really hit home if you ever had him living with you. Just sat there ll day, probably getting stoned. But by then it'd be much harder to get him out than it would be to finish with this lame arse now.

I used to always like older guys, I thought they were wise etc, but you need to look at it objectively-ignore the bravado and pretentious posing and what does he have to offer?

I bet other parts of the relationship aren't that good either.

You could find someone much better, or have the time to yourself to relax or concentrate on your studies. Go for it please. xxx

letsdolunch321 · 21/10/2019 22:45

He sounds an absolute waste of space.

I would not be texting or calling him. You owe him nothing. Just block the twat and move on.

AllyBamma · 22/10/2019 03:19

You’re paying his bills?! Giiiiirrrll no.

He 👏 is 👏 50 👏 years 👏 old

Of course he’s stringing you along, dangling the carrot of a real relationship because you’re bankrolling his lifestyle!

He is absolutely using you.

Please, you sound like such a lovely person and you deserve sooooo much better than this.

  1. Stop paying for anything of his
  2. Send him a message saying that after a lot of soul searching, you’ve realised that you and he have no future so any relationship you have ends immediately
  3. Block him on everything
  4. LIVE YOUR LIFE!
babbi · 22/10/2019 03:40

OMG .. 50 lying on a couch stoned ?!
You cannot bring this loser into your home where your daughter is .
Set her a good example in life .. not to settle for anything or anyone that is a drain ...

End immediately and block him ...
STOP NOW this nonsense of texting not fair etc ... end it and concentrate on providing for your DD not an idiot man ..

Monty27 · 22/10/2019 03:54

Tell him to grow up and look after himself.
head shaking in despair

BitOfFun · 22/10/2019 03:57

No no no no no no nopity no.

BitOfFun · 22/10/2019 04:00

Fuxxake, imagine what you could have done with all that money? A round the world trip, a car, a house deposit with some sexgod the same age as you who wants to build a future...

Cut your losses, and don't fall for the Sunk Costs Fallacy.

Sally2791 · 22/10/2019 05:32

He is stringing you along because you have funded him. Please stop and get rid of him, and don’t listen to any sorry crap he comes out with. Put your money into some counselling for yourself

quincejamplease · 22/10/2019 06:08

The point about the example this sets for your daughter wasn't about him as a father figure, it was you showing her that being used and financially exploited is a normal, healthy relationship!

When it's so unhealthy and abnormal I really want to believe this isn't real!

I can't believe you've wasted 3 years of your life so blatantly being used and manipulated and financially exploited... And you're thinking this is love and something worth hoping over? :(

Or describing yourself as cruel for finally acting in your own best interests by walking away rather than recognising the cruel way he has treated you!

Have a look at counselling. Also look at doing the Freedom Programme - they can teach you what healthy relationships actually look like and what it means when someone genuinely loves and cares about you (how that is reflected in their behaviour towards you). Because this ain't it. And I feel really sad for you that you think it is.

Www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

As for ending it you owe him no explanations, no more flights, no more money. You explain to him this is no longer working for you and you are ending the relationship and all further communication. Then you cancel any financial ties and block all channels of communication so he can't suck you back in. You do not leave any means for him to try and interrupt your life again.

It doesn't need dramatics, it doesn't need long explanation or efforts to make him "understand". You tell him. You walk away. You protect yourself. You heal. Any processing he may claim to need to do is for him to work through on his own account. It is not your responsibility and you are not required to "convince" him of anything or counsel him.

Good luck.

CodenameVillanelle · 22/10/2019 06:22

He’s never been able to hold down a home or job or relationship he’s always just on the move... like a constant drifter... never settles anywhere

I'm stunned that you could actually be considering paying for this man to come and live in your house knowing this.

How much have you spent on him over the past 3 years? Including flying to visit him every 3 weeks? At least a nice car, maybe even a house deposit???

Give your head a wobble and stop wasting your life. Please!

PositiveVibez · 22/10/2019 06:42

He would be a massive cocklodger.

You want your teenage son to see a deadbeat hanging around your house day after day, sponging off his mother!!

I'm perplexed at why you are attracted to him.

Please do not waste any more of your precious time on this loser.

nedflandereses · 22/10/2019 06:46

Oh my god you're paying his bills?? He's really pulled a number on you op. No phone calls, just block and move and on.

Bush321 · 22/10/2019 06:46

I’m totally overwhelmed by ur reply’s this morning thank u so much.
After pretty much another sleepless nite this is exactly wot I needed to hear this morning.
I can’t believe wot I’ve been thinking...

The way I’ve been describing the money wasted on visiting him is that I could have took myself and my daughter to Disney land twice. So wish I had...

The thot of him moving in with me now, actually makes me feel sick. I’ve given myself the ick... I now realise he has nothing to offer me, and tbh I’m not sure exactly wot I have been clinging on to.

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Bush321 · 22/10/2019 06:47

@happycamper11 no just a building site... wen he actually was working. He’s no where abroad just not Scotland

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