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Stuck in feelings

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Dorri82 · 20/10/2019 12:53

Hi
This might be a bit long winded but I really need some sort of sense to how I'm feeling.
Started seeing my ex around 7 years ago when he'd just come out of a relationship. It took him ages to commit to me and messed about a fair bit. This obviously wasn't the best foundation to start a relationship but by then I was already emotionally invested. By the time he finally said we'd give it a proper go I was really down from it all so felt I was just greatful that he'd finally chosen me! I know it all sounds pathetic now but that's how it was.
We moved in quite quickly and things were okay for a while but because of the start, I had no trust and couldn't just enjoy it.
After the first two years things kind of just flat lined, he started sleeping downstairs a lot saying that he fell asleep while playing the computer. I'd get really upset and ask him to come to bed. I felt so rejected. As time went on, it just become the norm and I would go up having said goodnight and that's how it went. I somehow got pregnant when we went away for a short break (fishing!!) I naively thought that may be this would bring us closer together. It was my first pregnancy and I wanted to feel like it was a magical special time but nothing changed. He had a lot of what I think was depression. I'd have to encourage him to shower and get up for work, he wouldn't be interested in helping around the house or doing anything together. All he did was fishing at the weekends. We done absolutely nothing as a couple. When I went into labour he was so good and was there and supportive. But it soon wore off and things returned back to normal. The thing is, I ended up feeling sorry for him, I tried to encourage him to go to the doctors about his low moods and thought that may be if he got some help, it would help us too. He wouldn't go. Two years on in the same why I made the difficult decision to finally leave. Me and my little girl left the house we all shared and moved in with my grandma to save some money and start again. We had to share a bed and it was really tough as I worked full time and started a new position at work that required a lot of studying and exams for. It was a really difficult time. While I was there my ex made a few attempts at saying he wanted to try again and even went to the doctors and got some medication for his now diagnosed depression. I kept strong and focused on the direction I needed to go in for myself and my little girl. Fast forward 4 months to last Christmas he seemingly had turned things around a fair bit, he was always looking smart and had sold all his fishing stuff to decorate the house and bought himself a new car and was going out with his friends a lot more. Something he never did before!! Then boxing day he told me over text that he had met someone new. This really was a punch to the stomach. I was in a very low place living at my nanas juggling a toddler and work and exams etc and there he was all seemingly sorted and now met someone else. I wrongly or rightly panicked that this new girl would get the best of him, all I'd ever wanted over the years. So I told him how I felt and said I wanted to try again. I felt like I had fallen into a massive hole of loneliness and despair and being Xmas just intensified it all. He fucked about for a few weeks and left me hanging. He even said he was going round to this girls to tell her it was over but ended up spending the night!
When he did end up telling her I pathetically felt greatful! She messaged me on social media with lots of screenshots of messages passed between them while they were getting to know each other (a whole 5 weeks!!!) In which he had written that he had never truly loved me and that our whole relationship was forced from the beginning. She then sent pictures of them all including my little girl, sitting around the table at his house a couple of days before Xmas eatting dinner. He promised me he would never introduce our little girl to anyone until he had spoken to me and knew it was someone he really wanted to make a go of thing's with. It really hurt me so much.
But of course... I was greatful of him choosing me again. Just like at the beginning. (I'm crying so much writing that bit because I'm so ashamed)
So we started trying again but slowly I started finding things out. He lied about going to the doctors to get help. He was in debt up to his eyeballs because of his flash new car. He didn't even have enough to pay his rent so I had to lend it to him.
Luckily I still had the sense to say that I was going to still get my new place and that it would be nice for us to date and appreciate each other before jumping back into living together and all the mundane crap that comes with that. We went out a couple of times for dinner which was nice.
I moved into my new home in the June from my nan's and he helped me loads, it was going to be a fresh start for us all. I carried on with my exams and didn't have much time or headspace to think of much else while I was in the thick of it. He made me feel bad that I wasn't giving him the attention and that things had slowly got back to how they were before. He came around 2 weeks before my final exam in September and said that we shouldn't carry on. I had to agree as it was all just too much and the lies and the bad feelings of all the time gone past just kinda built up. So I agreed and we both cried but I felt relieved. A couple of weeks after that he comes around again to tell me he's met someone. And guess what.... I'm feeling panicked again!!!! I don't want to repeat the pattern because I can see it for what it is. I just don't know how to deal with his I'm feeling. I'm so sad and confused. I know it doesn't work but I do love him. The hardest thing about it all is there's nothing I can hate him over. He didn't hit me, he didn't cheat (I don't think, not physically) he's not a terrible person. We got on as friends, just couldn't make it work in a relationship. So I feel like I've still lost a big part of me. I just don't know how to deal with it all. Any advise welcome! Xx

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MMadness · 20/10/2019 13:15

Thank your lucky stars. He is flakey. At best. He's a liar. You deserve better. It'll take time, sure. But one day you'll not feel anything but relief.

Numptydumptycat · 20/10/2019 13:41

He is not one of the good ones, I am not even sure that he is one of the mediocre ones. It won’t feel like it why you are still in the throes of love with him but in time you will be absolutely certain you have made the right choice.

He is playing with your ego though and it is taking a battering by him deliberately keeping you in the loop with these new “relationships” he is starting. You can see now that is a ploy and he realises exactly how to manipulate you. The lies were manipulating to pull you back in, the relationships are just the same.

Work on you. Build yourself up. In the long run it will help you but also your DD no end. The pain will end. Face into it. It won’t always feel like this.

lexiepuppy · 20/10/2019 13:58

The abusive cycle of the push pull/ hot cold cycle. He may well have MH problems and depression, but he has still treated you badly.
You have to look inside yourself to see why you are drawn to such a man.
Does he remind you of someone? Did you see your parents treating each other in a push/pull cycle, because it could be what you are familiar with.

Here's my 4 pieces of relationship advice. (There is a lot more!)

  1. You can not force someone to love you.
  2. The only behaviour you can control is your own.
  3. The only person that can make you truly happy is yourself.
4.The only person you can change is yourself.

Concentrate on yourself, detox him out of your life. Block and delete.

Love yourself and your little girl more.
Hope I am not too harsh. Flowers

OldNameChanger · 20/10/2019 14:11

@lexiepuppy just wanted to say that I found your post really helpful, especially your four pieces of relationship advice. I needed to hear that today so thank you Flowers

OP, this man has treated you appallingly. The heartbreak you are feeling will ease in time (although I know it probably doesn’t feel like that right now). Try to keep busy and concentrate on yourself and your DD. You deserve so much better.

lexiepuppy · 20/10/2019 15:40

@OldNameChanger
I am glad I could help! Hopefully you will have an enjoyable rest of your weekend!GrinFlowers

Dorri82 · 25/10/2019 18:32

Thank you ladies for your words. It always helps to get a fresh perspective on it.
I felt myself slipping at the weekend when he came round to tell me how depressed he was and that he felt sad at the thought of me meeting people. I stupidly reassured him I wasn't. The next day I asked for a little clarity of where he saw he was in this new relationship.... and he ignored me!! All day!! It was like a lightening bolt that hit me. It litrally summed up our whole relationship of me giving and him taking.
I slept on it and the next day sent a long message telling him exactly what I think of him and his actions and that I'm no longer prepared to carry him emotionally anymore. I told him he's just looking for someone to make him happy and it doesn't matter who because he obviously can't find it in himself. I ended it with wishing him well. I then blocked him and I feel so much better. He knows the days he has our little girl we'll stick with the routine no more no less.
I think I finally grew my lady balls! Xx

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Interestedwoman · 25/10/2019 18:47

Well done! It sounds like you had low self esteem- you felt you had to put up with shit numerous times for the sake of having a relationship with him.

There can be stuff up with which you shall not put. :)

Please carry this into any relationship you have in future and don't repeat the same patterns.

Perhaps you could have counselling to help you say strong if people take the piss? I know what it's like, I do it in friendships.

Either way, well done again and best wishes. xxxxx

Idontknowwhattodo2 · 25/10/2019 18:56

Honestly I read this thinking it was my old relationship. I was with someone for six years, we didn't have kids together but we lived together. We had a good first year and then things plummeted. We stopped having sex, he never initiated it, he constantly rejected me when I tried to and would tell me it was 'embarrassing' that I had to ask him. One time I even dressed up to try and spice things up and he flat out rejected me there and then. I gained weight and felt so shitty about myself. He never had any money, I gave him about £4,000, paid for absolutely everything, he would barely work, he clearly was depressed too and would just sit on the sofa constantly and play xBox. He didn't take care of himself or anything. We stayed in seperate rooms every single night and were just like roommates - though we weren't even mates anymore. But for some reason I thought I still loved him and would stay. I realised really I was just staying out of habit. Anyway, then suddenly he got a new job and got promoted really quickly. He started to change. He was making an effort with himself, had more money, looked nice again, was going out with friends. Our relationship hadn't changed though. He then left me for another girl at his work, who he'd cheated on me with. I was a mess and wanted to beg for him to come back to me, but I didn't. I convinced myself I'd had to deal with all the shit while she got the best from him - but the truth is, it will happen to her, too. People like that don't change. Once they're out of the honeymoon phase, he will go back to the way he was. He did it with the girl before me and he'll do it with her eventually. I already know he's struggling financially again. Him leaving me was the best thing he could have done. I look at him now and think, what the hell was I doing? I guess what I'm trying to say is that this will be the best thing for you, and in a few months you'll wonder why you stayed so long. And don't worry about another women getting 'the best' of him. She might do for a few months, maybe a year - but the old him will come back, and she'll be in the situation you were.

Dorri82 · 03/12/2019 20:08

update he just announced that his gf of 3 months is 3 months pregnant! I'm devastated

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Kitty2020 · 03/12/2019 20:35

Dorri82 Lets look at you, your career, your new home, your DD, your achievements, resilience and future.......you have moved mountains and done so well.

He is a deadbeat, debt ridden low life - wow he got someone pregnant - my cat can do that. It’s a blow - take the winding - give yourself an evening and then let it go.

It wasn’t love that you had with him. Love is mutual kindness, respect, honesty and loyalty. This was not happening - your feelings were a yearning for something that wasn’t there. “wishful thinking” - not reality. You were worried that these women “got the best of him” - there is no best of him - he’s rubbish!

You have done well to clear him from your life and make room for lots of fabulous new opportunities with people more suited to your characteristics of hard work, ambition, kindness and love....

Dorri82 · 03/12/2019 21:55

@Kitty2020 thank you so much. I really need to hear this right now. It's just such a shock. I'm going to keep reading your response until I feel better 😘

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